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« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2005, 03:24:49 PM »
Quote from: Jake on September 20, 2005, 03:21:38 PM
Quote from: A18 on September 20, 2005, 03:04:32 PM
Quote from: Jake on September 20, 2005, 02:58:42 PM
Yes, along with any and all abortions for any reason.

What if the mother and the baby are both likely to die otherwise?

What if the cookie monster was your father?

What does that have to do with anything?  Philip raised a VERY legitimate question.
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« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2005, 03:44:03 PM »
Obviously no.
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« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2005, 03:46:41 PM »
No.
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« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2005, 03:48:23 PM »
No (Normal)
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« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2005, 04:38:03 PM »
Pro-life at all times, except for risk of mother's life, rape, incest, etc., in which case I believe in abortion at all times.
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« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2005, 04:59:22 PM »
Yes, I oppose the legality of abortion in all cases.
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« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2005, 06:32:25 PM »
Tough call.  Im actually undecided on abortion, but for right now Ill go with no.
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« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2005, 06:43:58 PM »
« Edited: September 20, 2005, 06:47:19 PM by Storebought »
My response answers the question: Should 1st and 2nd trimester abortions remain legal?

First trimester: Qualified yes. Should be greatly restricted to cases of medical or criminal necessity, though.

Second trimester: No, not at all.
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« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2005, 06:45:41 PM »
First should be outlawed, but second not?
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« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2005, 06:52:52 PM »
Quote from: Senator Ebowed on September 20, 2005, 04:59:22 PM
Yes, I oppose the legality of abortion in all cases.

So abortions should be legal even after a mother goes in to labor?  Please think about what you've just said.
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« Reply #35 on: September 20, 2005, 06:56:25 PM »
He said he opposes the legality of abortions in all cases. In other words, he thinks abortions should always be illegal.
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« Reply #36 on: September 20, 2005, 06:57:00 PM »
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Quote from: Senator Ebowed on September 20, 2005, 04:59:22 PM
Yes, I oppose the legality of abortion in all cases.

So abortions should be legal even after a mother goes in to labor?  Please think about what you've just said.
He said that he opposes it in all cases. Great work, Tweed.
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« Reply #37 on: September 20, 2005, 07:44:58 PM »
I've pretty much become the strangest case you ever saw. While many people are against abortion but admit it's legal, I'm the opposite. While I (provisionally) acknowledge that abortion is not morally wrong, I believe it to be unconstitutional. 
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« Reply #38 on: September 20, 2005, 07:48:35 PM »
Quote from: Judge Max Power on September 20, 2005, 06:57:00 PM
Quote from: Boss Tweed on September 20, 2005, 06:52:52 PM
Quote from: Senator Ebowed on September 20, 2005, 04:59:22 PM
Yes, I oppose the legality of abortion in all cases.

So abortions should be legal even after a mother goes in to labor?  Please think about what you've just said.
He said that he opposes it in all cases. Great work, Tweed.

Oh.  Oh well.  That's almost as repulsive, just in a different way.
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« Reply #39 on: September 20, 2005, 08:46:56 PM »
Abortions should remain legal and be more available.
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« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2005, 08:58:29 PM »
Yes
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« Reply #41 on: September 20, 2005, 09:04:14 PM »
Honestly, it's not an issue I tend to bother with - too much philosophy involved. I think first trimester should stay legal, and I don't really care about second either way.
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« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2005, 09:14:09 PM »
Quote from: Liberty on September 20, 2005, 07:44:58 PM
I've pretty much become the strangest case you ever saw. While many people are against abortion but admit it's legal, I'm the opposite. While I (provisionally) acknowledge that abortion is not morally wrong, I believe it to be unconstitutional.

Private action can not be unconstitutional.

Or do you mean the government allowing it? If that, what do you base your argument on?
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« Reply #43 on: September 20, 2005, 09:38:08 PM »
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Quote from: Liberty on September 20, 2005, 07:44:58 PM
I've pretty much become the strangest case you ever saw. While many people are against abortion but admit it's legal, I'm the opposite. While I (provisionally) acknowledge that abortion is not morally wrong, I believe it to be unconstitutional.

Private action can not be unconstitutional.

Yes, I know that.

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At the time of the 14th amendment's ratification the consensus among the states and the AMA was that abortion constituted a murder. Therefore, the only reason a woman should be allowed to abort is in self-defense (i.e. their health is in jeopardy). Otherwise, it would constitute the state allowing life to be terminated without due process of law. Sure it's questionable to be operating under definitions of science and the states from 1868, but it's better than operating under the definitions of five kooks from 1992.
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« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2005, 09:56:57 PM »
The principle of "due process of law" is derived from Magna Carta. It simply means that a state can not deprive you of life, liberty, or property, except through the legislative process.
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« Reply #45 on: September 20, 2005, 10:30:07 PM »
Oppose the legality of first and second trimester abortions.
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« Reply #46 on: September 21, 2005, 08:18:21 PM »
I support both the legality of the practice and the practice itself.  In many cases it is far preferrable to the life of a poor.
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« Reply #47 on: September 21, 2005, 08:59:13 PM »
I support fully legalized first and second term abortions.
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« Reply #48 on: September 21, 2005, 11:13:05 PM »
Quote from: sofa ilikeverin on September 20, 2005, 03:21:01 PM
T1- Legal
T2- Legal
T3- Legal only for health of mother, health of child, rape, incest
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« Reply #49 on: September 21, 2005, 11:20:10 PM »
First: No
Second: Yes, except for. . . (You all know the reasons)
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