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« Reply #50 on: March 18, 2018, 12:31:00 PM »

Mike Honda was good, but c'mon, how is Ro Khanna not be a progressive so far? He might be more progressive than Bernie.

He's a Silicon Valley shill whose progressive shifts are obvious opportunism. He's as genuinely progressive as Tulsi Gabbard.

I mean is it really any different than Kirsten Gillibrand though who went from a Blue Dogish to a progressive? It's not like he's taking corporate or PAC money, so I wouldn't really consider him a shill. Tulsi Gabbard is someone with questionable ties to right wing India parties and use to vocally oppose gay marriage.

Yes, he originally ran against Honda and Swalwell/Stark as a socially liberal, fiscally conservative Smiley Smiley #BothSides do it ModerateHero Smiley Smiley and IIRC received funding from conservative PACs (can't swear to that last part though).  Some folks even thought he was a Republican plant in the Swalwell vs. Stark race.
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« Reply #51 on: March 18, 2018, 01:09:45 PM »

Khanna ran a much more explicitly pro-business campaign than Hillary or Booker could ever imagine.
The fact that Bernie bros lionize him despite that shows what a bunch of hypocritical limousine liberals they are.
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« Reply #52 on: March 18, 2018, 04:51:45 PM »

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« Reply #53 on: March 18, 2018, 04:52:57 PM »


I actually agree with this. Maxine would be great
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« Reply #54 on: March 18, 2018, 04:59:53 PM »

Maxine would be an okay face, but a terrible leader.
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« Reply #55 on: March 18, 2018, 05:14:13 PM »

Maxine would be an okay face, but a terrible leader.
I'd think the opposite. If you think the Republicans don't like Pelosi, they'd hate Maxine with every bone in their body.
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« Reply #56 on: March 18, 2018, 05:16:52 PM »

Maxine would both be a poor face and a poor leader
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« Reply #57 on: March 18, 2018, 05:20:09 PM »

Maxine would be an okay face, but a terrible leader.
I'd think the opposite. If you think the Republicans don't like Pelosi, they'd hate Maxine with every bone in their body.

Well, maybe. But she'd excite the base a lot more. But yeah, Republicans would rag on her even more than they do Pelosi. I maintain she'd be ineffectual as a leader in her ability to actually get votes passed.
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« Reply #58 on: March 18, 2018, 05:24:31 PM »

She'd be red meat for the Republican base and would make some of the centrist Dems who toil in respectability politics cringe. Her as Speaker was nothing more than an ultra-partisan fantasy on my part. She'd rip Trump limb from limb everyday. Tongue
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« Reply #59 on: March 18, 2018, 05:25:09 PM »

Maxine would both be a poor face and a poor leader

Leadership is overrated....as LBJ once said after he lost his supermajority in 1966:  "Master of the Senate!...I’m not master of a damn thing . . . We cannot make this Congress do one damn thing that I know of.”
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« Reply #60 on: March 18, 2018, 05:38:23 PM »

She'd be red meat for the Republican base and would make some of the centrist Dems who toil in respectability politics cringe. Her as Speaker was nothing more than an ultra-partisan fantasy on my part. She'd rip Trump limb from limb everyday. Tongue
Yup.

If I’m being serious, I have no idea who could actually lead the party. Mark Pocan?
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« Reply #61 on: March 18, 2018, 05:51:04 PM »

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« Reply #62 on: March 18, 2018, 05:53:17 PM »


Everyone agrees with you, except its poor politics to have the congressional leader be sitting in a seat that requires defense every year. Plus she is probably Durbins heir in 2 years.
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« Reply #63 on: March 18, 2018, 06:17:22 PM »

Am I the only that feel like Pelosi is purposely making a lot these old Democrats in safe district to stop from retiring and recruiting of 60+ old candidates so she can retain her leadership?
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« Reply #64 on: March 18, 2018, 06:48:09 PM »

Trouble is that her seat is trending right quite significantly and she might lose her seat in redistricting or something (if Rauner wins). Or run for the Senate.

Tim Ryan would be good for optics, but he's too right-wing for my tastes. Pocan not a bad call.
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« Reply #65 on: March 18, 2018, 06:53:25 PM »

Maxine Waters is notoriously corrupt. Plus she's older than Pelosi. Terrible one to have as a leader.
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« Reply #66 on: March 18, 2018, 07:29:51 PM »

Maxine Waters is the Diane Abbott of America.
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« Reply #67 on: March 18, 2018, 07:49:00 PM »

Maxine Waters is notoriously corrupt. Plus she's older than Pelosi. Terrible one to have as a leader.

Seriously. She probably retires in 2020/2022.
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« Reply #68 on: March 18, 2018, 07:56:19 PM »

Honestly the perfect guy to have as a leader would've been Chris Van Hollen had he not jumped to the Senate.

If you asked me to pick someone to replace Pelosi now out of names mentioned I'd go with Joseph Crowley but more as a placeholder until someone better rises to the task.
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« Reply #69 on: March 18, 2018, 08:12:54 PM »

Bold idea: Democrats vote Obama as Speaker of the House since he is the only one who can unite all factions and is Trump's worst nightmare.
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« Reply #70 on: March 18, 2018, 08:47:12 PM »

Maxine Waters is the Diane Abbott of America.
I love her even more now

Bold idea: Democrats vote Obama as Speaker of the House since he is the only one who can unite all factions and is Trump's worst nightmare.

I enjoy this idea way too much
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« Reply #71 on: March 18, 2018, 08:50:29 PM »

Bold idea: Democrats vote Obama as Speaker of the House since he is the only one who can unite all factions and is Trump's worst nightmare.

While I do like the idea, Obama would probably rather die a fiery death than ever become Speaker of the house.
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« Reply #72 on: March 18, 2018, 09:35:25 PM »

Could Mark Pocan or Raúl Grijalva work? They'd satisfy the CPC (of which Pelosi is a member of) obviously but not sure how the New Dems wold react. Joe Crowely voted for the Bush tax cuts and once left DC during debate to go do a fundraiser for Wall Street IIRC, so I might rather keep Pelosi than go with Crowely.


Bold idea: Democrats vote Obama as Speaker of the House since he is the only one who can unite all factions and is Trump's worst nightmare.

The Blue Dogs - who may be why Pelosi doesn't become speaker next year - won't be united for that if I had to guess. Obama would obviously not wanna be speaker though.
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« Reply #73 on: March 18, 2018, 09:57:11 PM »

Honestly, I'd prefer a speaker from outside the house – if the speaker represented my district I'd vote against them even if we agreed on every single issue, for the sole reason that the speaker doesn't vote, and therefore it's equivalent to having no representation in Congress.
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« Reply #74 on: March 18, 2018, 09:57:51 PM »

Leader Schiff? He seems so calm on concise on TV always on message and knows how to hit back against Rs.
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