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« on: March 08, 2018, 01:19:57 AM »

Interesting new poll says Racial Discrimination is the #1 issue for millennials in the US, beating the economy and healthcare

https://www.yahoo.com/news/millennial-focus-shifted-civil-rights-trumps-victory-report-050110589.html


How could this affect 2020 primaries and GE?
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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2018, 10:38:48 AM »

Civil rights/racial discrimination will be a significant issue, but not big to determine the election.

It's not the 1960s anymore, and some far-left millennials need to understand that.

Social engineering doesn't work anymore.

There needs to be a balance.
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2018, 10:53:14 AM »



Social engineering doesn't work anymore.

There needs to be a balance.

What does this dog whistle even mean?
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2018, 10:54:54 AM »



Social engineering doesn't work anymore.

There needs to be a balance.

What does this dog whistle even mean?

Root out discrimination anywhere, especially with home mortgages, but stop the corporate shakedowns. You don't have to hire people because of skin color, it should be because of work ethic, with any race.

It's not a dog whistle. Social engineering doesn't really work.

We are all equal.
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2018, 11:10:49 AM »

The economy and healthcare are definitely more important for me, and my number one concern is actually foreign policy.
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2018, 11:24:56 AM »

Millenials are almost majority miniority so not surprising they care about this in the age of Trump.
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2018, 11:25:32 AM »



Social engineering doesn't work anymore.

There needs to be a balance.

What does this dog whistle even mean?

Root out discrimination anywhere, especially with home mortgages, but stop the corporate shakedowns. You don't have to hire people because of skin color, it should be because of work ethic, with any race.

It's not a dog whistle. Social engineering doesn't really work.

We are all equal.

Don't be obtuse. Social engineering is what the US was founded on, and has practiced for decades. The idea that minorities are inferior is social engineering - ensuring that corporations and universities account for that is not. Pretending it's the other way around is willful ignorance.
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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2018, 03:08:17 PM »



Social engineering doesn't work anymore.

There needs to be a balance.

What does this dog whistle even mean?

Root out discrimination anywhere, especially with home mortgages, but stop the corporate shakedowns. You don't have to hire people because of skin color, it should be because of work ethic, with any race.

It's not a dog whistle. Social engineering doesn't really work.

We are all equal.

Don't be obtuse. Social engineering is what the US was founded on, and has practiced for decades. The idea that minorities are inferior is social engineering - ensuring that corporations and universities account for that is not. Pretending it's the other way around is willful ignorance.
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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2018, 05:20:05 PM »



Social engineering doesn't work anymore.

There needs to be a balance.

What does this dog whistle even mean?

We are all equal.











This is what all of us being equal looks like...
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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2018, 06:07:33 PM »



Social engineering doesn't work anymore.

There needs to be a balance.

What does this dog whistle even mean?

We are all equal.











This is what all of us being equal looks like...

We are all equal in the way how we can have opportunities, but it is the way how people conduct themselves is how they become successful.

Mass incarceration is a big problem, those wrongly put in jail should be freed, but murderers and rapists should be punished forever.

Education is a big issue as well. If inner city students don't feel the need to learn (some of them), same goes with rural white children, who will hold their hands to do it?
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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2018, 06:48:26 PM »

Racial discrimination isn't really an issue so much as a large group of issues – drug law reform, criminal justice reform, education reform, and healthcare reform really would all lessen its impact.
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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2018, 07:20:22 PM »

I'm a millennial and it's not even in my top three for concerns.
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« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2018, 07:56:44 PM »

Racial discrimination isn't really an issue so much as a large group of issues – drug law reform, criminal justice reform, education reform, and healthcare reform really would all lessen its impact.
I think this is the correct take here, that racial discrimination is such a complex and pervasive issue that it doesn't really make sense to tackle it separately. If you tackle all these other important issues, you will ultimately wind up tackling the institutional components of racial discrimination pretty significantly.
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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2018, 08:23:24 PM »
« Edited: March 08, 2018, 10:47:45 PM by RFKFan68 »

I'm a millennial and it's not even in my top three for concerns.
Ok, would you like a cookie?
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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2018, 09:58:19 PM »

Of course millenials don't care about healthcare.  They're young, healthy, often living with assistance from their parents, and can be on their folks' healthcare plan until age 26.  When they don't get their dream job, it's because of their race or gender, and not because of their lack of experience, work ethic, minimal credentials, or the neck tattoo that their older prospective boss isn't exactly into.  And as long as their parents are providing much of their sustainance (especially shelter), the economy is all academic to them.  Besides, their parents will have Medicare when they get old and sick.

Racial Discrimination is an issue where millenials get to feel morally superior to their elders.  That's nothing new; it's the Archie Bunker/Michael Stivic rivalry for the 21st century.  And when I was the age millenials are now, I was in the Michael Stivic camp.  While Michael Stivic ("Meathead") was right on the issue, and Archie Bunker was not, I do note that the younger generation took for granted how hard and faithfully Archie Bunker worked.  Having put in decades of work because I had to, I'm a little more appreciative of Archie Bunker's work ethic, and, without endorsing it, a bit more understanding of his anti-intellectualism. 



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« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2018, 10:24:49 PM »

Well duh, that's what happens with diversity [which Millennials are very much the product of] and the fear of it.

Suddenly, economics, which used to be roughly tied to some working sectors of a town with X population with Y minority gets fuzzy when X marries Y, who then becomes XY and flings with Z...and the prejudices do not change quite so quickly. Suddenly, the state of the economy and how it works out ends up entirely different because of all that discrimination.  And this goes according to race AND class prejudices.

And eventually, every other issue starts to have all sorts of layers and complexities that wouldn't be there in a more tolerant society.

Unfortunately, this makes me worry that racial discrimination as an issue will be boiled down to the more superficial things rather than any kind of insight into any one particular area such as criminal justice, environment discrimination, access to actual food, etc.
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« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2018, 10:26:59 PM »

Lots of self exposal itt
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« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2018, 10:52:19 PM »

Of course millenials don't care about healthcare.  They're young, healthy, often living with assistance from their parents, and can be on their folks' healthcare plan until age 26.  When they don't get their dream job, it's because of their race or gender, and not because of their lack of experience, work ethic, minimal credentials, or the neck tattoo that their older prospective boss isn't exactly into.  And as long as their parents are providing much of their sustainance (especially shelter), the economy is all academic to them.  Besides, their parents will have Medicare when they get old and sick.

Racial Discrimination is an issue where millenials get to feel morally superior to their elders.  That's nothing new; it's the Archie Bunker/Michael Stivic rivalry for the 21st century.  And when I was the age millenials are now, I was in the Michael Stivic camp.  While Michael Stivic ("Meathead") was right on the issue, and Archie Bunker was not, I do note that the younger generation took for granted how hard and faithfully Archie Bunker worked.  Having put in decades of work because I had to, I'm a little more appreciative of Archie Bunker's work ethic, and, without endorsing it, a bit more understanding of his anti-intellectualism. 




None of what you wrote is an excuse to be an ignorant bigot.
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« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2018, 10:59:01 PM »

At least it wasn't 'environmental justice'
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« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2018, 11:37:00 PM »

good. why the heck is there still racial inequality? it affects economic and health care outcomes too. racial disparities are everywhere!
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« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2018, 11:47:29 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2018, 12:08:41 AM »

Not surprising. The whole point of (most of) the modern left is to fight "racism". I've argued we are entering a new era of politics where it will be culture not economics, which decide elections, and we are engulfed in an intense culture war.
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« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2018, 12:09:50 AM »

Not surprising. The whole point of (most of) the modern left is to fight "racism". I've argued we are entering a new era of politics where it will be culture not economics, which decide elections, and we are engulfed in an intense culture war.



...and to help working class and vulnerable Americans through policy that disproportionately helps lower income Americans/vulnerable people over upper income.
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« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2018, 12:13:50 AM »

Not surprising. The whole point of (most of) the modern left is to fight "racism". I've argued we are entering a new era of politics where it will be culture not economics, which decide elections, and we are engulfed in an intense culture war.

And why do you see yourself on the (presumably) anti-left side of that "war"?
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« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2018, 12:27:07 AM »

Not surprising. The whole point of (most of) the modern left is to fight "racism". I've argued we are entering a new era of politics where it will be culture not economics, which decide elections, and we are engulfed in an intense culture war.

And why do you see yourself on the (presumably) anti-left side of that "war"?

I think the main issue WILL be culture. We are already seeing that as economic lines (in terms of party voting) are pretty mixed. For example, it used to be Democrat=working class and Republican=wealthy. Now, both parties are pretty much the same in terms of wealth. Hell, if you subtract African-Americans, Republicans are by average LESS wealthy than the Democrats. I mean, I don't see how the Republicans will survive as a national party if we don't accommodate our new base (which, is heavily White and working-class) without making major changes in our parties' economic viewpoints. That being said, it seems the driving issues of the day center around Trump and wether he was right or wrong for insulting some group. Immigration, guns, diversity, free speech, etc carry much more weight in terms of discussion then tax cuts or privatization (lol) do. And, all of this is centered around a new America vs Old America dynamic (you see this on college campuses everywhere).

I would post links expanding more on this, but for some reason I can't.
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