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« on: February 28, 2018, 04:00:48 AM »
« edited: March 21, 2018, 02:56:11 AM by People's Speaker North Carolina Yankee »

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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2018, 06:50:35 AM »

You guys have totally and completely missed the original point of the legislation. Tongue


No one in anyway said these subjects were "less important". The whole point of the original legislation was to begin the process of transitioning education back to the regions, and thereby allowing this to become a regional level debate for the sake of game play and activity at that level.

So far in this debate, I have seen every centralist (as in centralized state, not "centrist" in case someone was misreading Tongue) inclination towards micro-managing curriculum to the point of making the first line of the section in question ("While Regions will be able to create their own education curriculum") as well as the underlying statute's name, a joke. This is the same mindset that saw the regions stripped mined of responsibility and importance pre-reset, leading to widespread inactivity and disinterest (for gory details, read Truman's wiki page, its like a chronicle of events).

All of these curriculum mandates, will also render the need to amend section 3 to remove the cuts to the administrative staff, so that some one can administer these new requirements and thus the grants of money provided to poor school districts will also need to be clawed back as well. In essence, the whole bill is being unraveled in the process.
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2018, 07:08:19 AM »

I am ready to support this, although I wanna add a freshman health class, talking about why not to do drugs, etc.

I actually would have no problem with this, particularly in light of the heroine epidemic, it would fall within a reasonable requirement of the regions in exchange for the broader latitude I talked about in my previous post and is present in the underlying legislation. The Federal gov't is on the hook for a lot of expenses for treatment of addicted persons via the health care subsidy and thus such a requirement helps to reduce some of that cost over the long term.
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2018, 07:13:23 AM »

I am going to hold off on processing the amendment since text keeps being altered at present. In a previous lifetime, I used to distinguish between "official amendments" and "texts for discussions", the difference being the former actually says "Amendment Proposed/offered", and the other does not. This allows for the free flow of debate without getting trapped in looped votes on texts the discussion had already moved past.
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2018, 03:35:40 AM »

You know this is why people hate the house. Someone makes a post and then instead of their being a response or a disagreement, there is silence. I just made a post disagreeing with most of the House members, surely someone can make some posts challenging my points.

Come at me bro.... Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2018, 11:57:30 PM »

Can we just add PMasta's Health thing to the amendment Transit and I proposed and just be done with this?

Yes, sorry, I'll amend, I was busy last night.

Does this mean you will be offering a final revised text as an amendment?
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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2018, 01:43:44 AM »

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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2018, 01:34:58 AM »

The amendment is adopted.
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2018, 01:35:36 AM »

Any further amendments on this?
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2018, 11:28:23 AM »

/shrug

I don't want to call for a final vote yet, as I feel there are still some unaddressed concerns that members have.

Been there many a times myself.
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2018, 07:31:33 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2018, 01:52:20 AM »

A final vote is now open on this legislation, Representatives please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2018, 03:13:31 AM »

NAY



Casting a philosophical nay here in the name of Regionalizing Education.
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2018, 02:51:09 AM »

This is why the original Return Education to the Regions bill had so few requirements curriculum wise. The very fact that representatives from the Fremont Region (historically one most struggling with activity) is taking issue with the fact that we are micromanaging their curriculum with this bill should illustrate something at least to all those voices that used to say "we have to do this, because the regions are too inactive" (self-fullfilling prophesy right there).


Anyway time has expired.

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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2018, 02:55:47 AM »

Vote on Final Passage of the Amendment to the Return Education to the Regions Act:

Aye (5): PoliticalMasta, ReaganClinton20xx, Rfayette, Wxtransit and Weatherboy1102
Nay (1): NC Yankee
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (3): Oakvale, Peebs, and TheGovanahJake

The bill has passed the House and is sent to the VP/PPT for Senate action.
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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2018, 03:16:59 AM »

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