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« Reply #125 on: August 12, 2007, 04:14:13 AM »

Beh, horrible questions (I really have never taken this test, btw. Anyways I don't remember it.)

Q1: Utilities should be. Other major industries should not.
Q3: Basic health care is.
Q4: It cannot ensure that. It can ensure that those who don't have work are not unnecessarily penalized, though.
Q5: It depends on the case at hand.
Q8: What exactly do they mean by "immigration should be prevented by a planned population policy"? Encouraging the natives to breed like rabbits?
Q14: Of course people aren't exactly "equal". But they're broadly equal and have equal rights. Which they're being in many ways denied by society (society broadly defined here), increasing inequality. Which I guess is what the test's author meant. Similar things go for Q15.
Q21: "Real Constitutional Republics" (in the sense of "real socialism"), yes. Ideal ones, no. Anyways all other tried forms of government are worse in that respect. Including "real socialism".

#1 Social-Liberal
#2 Anarcho-Communist
#3 American "Liberal"
#4 Liberal Socialist
#5 Social Democratic
#6 Left-wing Neoliberal (Clinton)
#7 Marxist
#8 Liberal
#9 Christian Democratic
#10 Soviet "Communist"
#11 Christian Socialist
#12 Right-wing Neoliberal (Thatcher)
#13 American "Conservative"
#14 Burkean (liberal) Conservative
#15 Liberal Nationalist
#16 National Socialist
#17 Fascist
#18 Revolutionary Conservative/Monarchist (far right)


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« Reply #126 on: August 12, 2007, 05:03:41 AM »

#1 American "Liberal"
 
#2 Social-Liberal
 
#3 Social Democratic

#4 Left-wing Neoliberal (Clinton)

#5 Liberal Socialist
 
#6 Anarcho-Communist
 
#7 Liberal
 
#8 Marxist
 
#9 Christian Democratic
 
#10 Right-wing Neoliberal (Thatcher)
 
#11 Burkean (liberal) Conservative

#12 American "Conservative"

#13 Liberal Nationalist

#14 Christian Socialist
 
#15 Soviet "Communist"
 
#16 National Socialist

#17 Fascist
 
#18 Revolutionary Conservative/Monarchist (far right)
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« Reply #127 on: August 12, 2007, 08:15:03 AM »

#1 Left-wing Neoliberal (Clinton)
#2 Liberal
#3 American "Conservative"
#4 Liberal Nationalist
#5 Right-wing Neoliberal (Thatcher)
#6 Social-Liberal
#7 Burkean (liberal) Conservative
#8 Social Democratic
#9 American "Liberal"
#10 Christian Democratic
#11 Revolutionary Conservative/Monarchist (far right)
#12 National Socialist
#13 Anarcho-Communist
#14 Fascist
#15 Liberal Socialist
#16 Soviet "Communist"
#17 Marxist
#18 Christian Socialist

Oh yeah, I am a Clinton liberal Tongue
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« Reply #128 on: August 13, 2007, 12:54:19 AM »

This looks about right.

#1   American "Liberal"
#2   Social Democratic
#3   Social-Liberal
#4   Liberal Socialist
#5   Anarcho-Communist
#6   Left-wing Neoliberal (Clinton)
#7   Liberal
#8   Marxist
#9   Christian Democratic
#10   Right-wing Neoliberal (Thatcher)
#11   American "Conservative"
#12   Burkean (liberal) Conservative
#13   Soviet "Communist"
#14   Liberal Nationalist
#15   Christian Socialist
#16   Fascist
#17   National Socialist
#18   Revolutionary Conservative/Monarchist (far right)
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« Reply #129 on: August 13, 2007, 01:35:52 AM »

Social-Liberal
American "Liberal" 
Left-wing Neoliberal (Clinton) 
Liberal Socialist
Social Democratic 
Anarcho-Communist
Liberal


I'm an Anarcho-Communist before a Liberal? Ouch.
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« Reply #130 on: August 13, 2007, 01:52:52 AM »

Not at all what I expected, also, I didn't like the way most of the questions were worded.

#1   Liberal
#2   Left-wing Neoliberal (Clinton)
#3   Social-Liberal
#4   American "Liberal"
#5   Right-wing Neoliberal (Thatcher)
#6   Social Democratic
#7   Liberal Nationalist
#8   American "Conservative"
#9   Anarcho-Communist
#10   Burkean (liberal) Conservative
#11   Liberal Socialist
#12   Christian Democratic
#13   Marxist
#14   Soviet "Communist"
#15   Christian Socialist
#16   National Socialist
#17   Fascist
#18   Revolutionary Conservative/Monarchist (far right)
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« Reply #131 on: August 13, 2007, 04:40:01 PM »


Yeah, I laughed too. Tongue
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« Reply #132 on: August 13, 2007, 09:06:45 PM »

 #1 Left-wing Neoliberal (Clinton)
#2 Liberal
#3 Social-Liberal
#4 Right-wing Neoliberal (Thatcher)
#5 American "Conservative"
#6 American "Liberal"
#7 Social Democratic
#8 Liberal Nationalist
#9 Anarcho-Communist
#10 Liberal Socialist
#11 Marxist
#12 Burkean (liberal) Conservative
#13 Christian Democratic
#14 Soviet "Communist"
#15 National Socialist
#16 Fascist
#17 Christian Socialist
#18 Revolutionary Conservative/Monarchist (far right)
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« Reply #133 on: August 13, 2007, 10:38:34 PM »


They just mean strongly pro-free trade and socially libertarian, which is closer to you than any of the others, I would think.
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« Reply #134 on: August 13, 2007, 10:47:25 PM »


They just mean strongly pro-free trade and socially libertarian, which is closer to you than any of the others, I would think.

Oh, ok. Thanks!! Smiley
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« Reply #135 on: August 14, 2007, 01:56:45 AM »

Funny, for all the claims I have turned Libertarian I get extremely similar results now to what I did 3 years ago.

#1 American "Liberal"
#2 Liberal Socialist
#3 Anarcho-Communist
#4 Social Democratic
#5 Social-Liberal
#6 Marxist
#7 Left-wing Neoliberal (Clinton)
#8 Liberal
#9 Christian Democratic
#10 Christian Socialist
#11 Soviet "Communist"
#12 Burkean (liberal) Conservative
#13 Right-wing Neoliberal (Thatcher)
#14 American "Conservative"
#15 National Socialist
#16 Fascist
#17 Liberal Nationalist
#18 Revolutionary Conservative/Monarchist (far right)
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« Reply #136 on: August 14, 2007, 02:01:01 AM »

Here's my guess at someone who would fit each category:

American "Liberal" - Many obvious ones
Liberal Socialist - Noam Chomsky
Anarcho-Communist - A bunch of philosopher writer guys I can't remember now.
Social Democratic - FDR
Social-Liberal - Paul Martin. Howard Dean comes close too.
Marxist - Duh.
Left-wing Neoliberal (Clinton) - Duh.
Liberal - Adam Smith, Milton Friedman.
Christian Democratic - Look at any European party
Christian Socialist - Lots of people Al could name.
Soviet "Communist" - Obvious
Burkean (liberal) Conservative - Burke of course. Don't know enough though to guess at any modern day examples.
Right-wing Neoliberal (Thatcher) - Duh.
American "Conservative" - See American "Liberal"
National Socialist - Hitler
Fascist - Mussolini
Liberal Nationalist - Any European leader of the 19th century
Revolutionary Conservative/Monarchist (far right) - Franco? How about that more "moderate" fascist party in the Weimer Republic, the German People's Party or whatever?
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« Reply #137 on: August 14, 2007, 11:24:05 AM »

#1 Liberal
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#2 Left-wing Neoliberal (Clinton)
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#6 American "Conservative"
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#7 Liberal Nationalist
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#8 Social Democratic
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#13 Marxist
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#14 Soviet "Communist"
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#15 Fascist
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#16 Revolutionary Conservative/Monarchist (far right)
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#17 National Socialist
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« Reply #138 on: August 15, 2007, 01:19:02 PM »

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Hitler would be a fascist. The "left" wing of the NSDAP - which had no influence whatsoever after 1934 - would be the "National Socialists" - people like Röhm and the Strassers. The current crop of populist South American antiyankees might arguably qualify, but only arguably.

And you're thinking of the German National People's Party. The German People's Party would be in one of the mainline Conservative categories.
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« Reply #139 on: August 15, 2007, 04:12:54 PM »

This is completely off.  It has me as a Left-Wing Neoliberal (Clinton).  That is far from the truth.  
Me too.

Some of the questions are really two questions. Maybe I agree with one and not the other so how do I answer?

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« Reply #140 on: August 15, 2007, 07:47:05 PM »

this is the ad that popped up when I went there:



wonder what that says about me?  or my cookies?  anyone else get that too?

anyway, my number 1 result was "Left-wing Neoliberal (Clinton)."  whatever.  that was sorta fun.  But not as fun as Mister Nipples.  Seriously, I got a bigger kick out of him than the test.
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« Reply #141 on: August 15, 2007, 08:48:17 PM »

Odd results

#1 American "Liberal"
#2 American "Conservative"
#3 Fascist
#4 Liberal Socialist
#5 Left-wing Neoliberal (Clinton)
#6 National Socialist
#7 Social Democratic
#8 Social-Liberal
#9 Anarcho-Communist
#10 Christian Democratic
#11 Liberal
#12 Liberal Nationalist
#13 Marxist
#14 Burkean (liberal) Conservative
#15 Right-wing Neoliberal (Thatcher)
#16 Revolutionary Conservative/Monarchist (far right)
#17 Soviet "Communist"
#18 Christian Socialist
 
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« Reply #142 on: August 15, 2007, 08:57:13 PM »

How'd you get ANY form of liberal as your #1 result?
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« Reply #143 on: August 15, 2007, 09:31:08 PM »

Me?  Or that other guy? 

I have a secret to tell
From my electrical well
Its a simple message and Im leaving out the whistles and bells
So the room must listen to me
Filibuster vigilantly
My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-b-e-r-a-l

This test seems to use the word "liberal" the way the Germans use it.  For example, in Germany if you're into lower taxes, less gun control, and less government in general, you're a "liberale" and probably sympathetic to the PDF.  Yes, I know, in the USA the word has morphed, and generally refers to more, rather than less, government involvement--if you wear a red avatar, then you're probably for more government control and in favor of the Nanny State, and thus are an american liberal--but I think the writers of the test are using the word liberal in its initial conception. 

Clinton, for example, is a good example.  And by Clinton, I mean the charming one for whom I and many Americans voted.  Not the Bitch of the same surname who's currently running--what's with these anglophone bitches anyway, changing their surname upon marriage.  that's so confusing.  Glad my old lady didn't do that.  No English in my blood, I'm proud to say--but I will say I respect their general Lockean, or "liberal," philosophy.  Anyway, Clinton--er, Bill Clinton, that is--knew how to stand back out of the way of stuff.  Just let it happen.  Not imports on Japanese goods, like Bush did, for example.  No pushing for "codifying" marriage in the constitution.  No emphasis on controls.  Hell, he even got people off welfare.  Not that I'm a democrat, but if I were, that's the kind of Democrat I'd be.  and I have no shame to tell you that I voted for Clinton.  Twice.  Then I voted for him again in '96.  I'm guessing The General did too.  Now, even though Clinton was to the right of most of his party, and certainly dragged his party rightward throughout the 90s--and that's not a bad thing, imho--he is a Classic Liberal.  Not a "liberal" in the usual USA sense of the word, but a Liberal nonetheless.  And I'm not surprised I got "neo-liberal whatever something (clinton)" as my result.  Although, admittedly, I'd have chosen another term if I'd created the algorithm.  Actually, I prefer "secular humanist" which is the result I get on the haav'd political test.  But essentially, it's much the same thing, except that this test focuses more on economic issues and obviously uses "liberal" in the classic sense, not in the American sense.

I should let The General speak for himself, though, since Fascist came up in his list just above Neoliberal.  So he and I may not be on exactly the same frequency.  Actually, now that I actually read his post, I see that american "liberal" is first on his list.  So I'm guessing we're not on the same frequency at all.  nevermind.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but Liberal can mean different things.  In fact, opposite things.


Theres a picture opposite me
Of my primitive ancestry
Which stood on rocky shores and kept the beaches shipwreck free
Though I respect that a lot
Id be fired if that were my job
After killing jason off and countless screaming argonauts

yeah, that's the kind of Liberal I am.  Not sure about The General.  I think he's more of the blue canary in the outlet by the lightswitch.  or maybe just the bee.  They buzz around our bonnet generally creating a nuissance and stinging people, much like Democrats.

glad we got that cleared up.  Now, Istanbul is next, so I need to dance with my son.  Later.  Smiley
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« Reply #144 on: August 15, 2007, 09:33:43 PM »

American Liberal
Social Liberal

Bottom two:

Fascist
Revolutionary Conservative  (F off, counter-revolutionaries.. OFF with his head)

As a history prof told me:

You can tell a lot about a person by what side they take in regards to the French Revolution.
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« Reply #145 on: August 15, 2007, 09:56:38 PM »

Two questions essentially bumped up fascism to a high spot on mine.  First, I believe in a strong military.  I also answered in the affirmative to the "nationalism is cool" question.  Dedication to the state is a very important value to me.  We cannot maintain this prosperous, free society of ours without a clear social contract existing between individual and state.  In return for the liberties and opportunities America confers upon us the people must abide by good civic virtues.  We need to drop the "state vs. individual" mentality.
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« Reply #146 on: August 15, 2007, 09:59:25 PM »

You can tell a lot about a person by what side they take in regards to the French Revolution.

My boy's name is Louis.  And we pronounce like Louis Armstrong, not like Lewis Carroll.

Avulsion.  That's my vocabulary word for the day.  It's the technical term for a fignernail or toenail opening up like a car hood (bonnet, for you english bastards).  Just imaging the toenail pulling up at about 90 degrees from its connection point, known as the sulcus, by the way.

why would I know that word?  long story.  But let's just say I have one big fuçking band-aid on the long toe (second toe) of my left foot.  And my son stepped on that bandaged toe earlier.  I suppose I screamed at him a bit.  And I suppose I feel kind of bad for it now.  I managed to have Madonna's "Immaculate Collection" cued up on the five-disc CD player after They Might Be Giants.  That's good stuff.  All the groovin' and steppin' and somehow I managed to get clobbered.  Bad timing too.  Normally I don't mind, but with the very painful injury it kinda hurt.   Ah, well.  Nails grow back.  Sons are forever.  So now we're having a bonding time.  He's still managing to dance, even in the tub.  Of course I have the stereo blasting in the next room.

But what with this wireless gadget I can sit on the closed toilet, supervise his bath, and still surf the world wide web.  How cool is that? 

And yes, the pain begins to subside.  That third valium really did the trick, I think.
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« Reply #147 on: August 24, 2007, 10:04:49 PM »


#1 American "Liberal"
#2 Christian Socialist
#3 Social-Liberal
#4 Anarcho-Communist
#5 Liberal Socialist
#6 Christian Democratic
#7 Left-wing Neoliberal (Clinton)
#8 Marxist
#9 Liberal Nationalist
#10 Social Democratic
#11 Soviet "Communist"
#12 National Socialist
#13 American "Conservative"
#14 Revolutionary Conservative/Monarchist (far right)
#15 Fascist
#16 Burkean (liberal) Conservative
#17 Liberal
#18 Right-wing Neoliberal (Thatcher)
 
 
 
 
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« Reply #148 on: August 26, 2007, 12:54:17 PM »

My results:
1. American Liberal
2. Social Liberal
3. Left-wing Neoliberal (Clinton)
4. Social Democratic
5. Liberal Socialist
6. Anarcho-Communist
7. Christian Democratoc
8. Liberal
9. Marxist
10. Liberal Nationalist
11. American Conservative
12. Burkean Conservative
13. Fascist
14. Right-wing Neoliberal (Thatcher)
15. National Socialist
16. Revolutionary Conservative/Monarchist
17. Soviet Communist
18. Christian Socialist
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« Reply #149 on: December 09, 2007, 04:58:37 PM »

#1 American "Liberal"
#2 Liberal Socialist
#3 Social-Liberal
#4 Social Democratic
#5 Anarcho-Communist
#6 Left-wing Neoliberal (Clinton)
#7 Marxist
#8 Liberal
#9 Christian Democratic
#10 Soviet "Communist"
#11 Burkean (liberal) Conservative
#12 Christian Socialist
#13 Right-wing Neoliberal (Thatcher)
#14 American "Conservative"
#15 Fascist 
#16 National Socialist
#17 Liberal Nationalist
#18 Revolutionary Conservative/Monarchist (far right)
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