Should Rapists be Physically Castrated?

[dazzleman]

Yeah, it would be cruel and unusual, even if it did fit the crime.  Try convincing my mom that

What does your mom have to do with it?  Is she a rape victim?

[dazzleman]

Well, a lot of rape is only arguably rape--but that's a discussion for another day.

Very true.  The definition of rape has been significantly expanded, and some argue that a woman should be able to withdraw consent for sex after the fact.

In this political environment, I'd find it very hard to advocate as drastic a penalty for rape as I normally would, since I fear that too many men would fall victim to false accusations, which are quite common.

[opebo]

Our heirarchical society - based upon power and human abuse - naturally breeds such psychological needs.

Now if that were true everyone would be rapists. And they aren't. Try again.

No, that doesn't follow.  Psychological ills created by our abusive heirarchical social order vary from person to person, and particularly based upon class.  For example a rich person who has near total power over the world around him has no reason to have resentments, while a poor - who has absolutely no power - naturally develops an abiding desire to act out in some way that will make him (at least temporarily) feel less powerless. 

[John Dibble]

Our heirarchical society - based upon power and human abuse - naturally breeds such psychological needs.

Now if that were true everyone would be rapists. And they aren't. Try again.

No, that doesn't follow.  Psychological ills created by our abusive heirarchical social order vary from person to person, and particularly based upon class.  For example a rich person who has near total power over the world around him has no reason to have resentments, while a poor - who has absolutely no power - naturally develops an abiding desire to act out in some way that will make him (at least temporarily) feel less powerless. 

For crying out loud, shut the **** up about class - you can't blame all problems on it and quite frankly you are a hypocrite to do so, rich boy. People make concious decisions in life, they aren't controlled by class - they CHOOSE to take an action, nobody can force their hand other than themselves.

[opebo]

Our heirarchical society - based upon power and human abuse - naturally breeds such psychological needs.

Now if that were true everyone would be rapists. And they aren't. Try again.

No, that doesn't follow.  Psychological ills created by our abusive heirarchical social order vary from person to person, and particularly based upon class.  For example a rich person who has near total power over the world around him has no reason to have resentments, while a poor - who has absolutely no power - naturally develops an abiding desire to act out in some way that will make him (at least temporarily) feel less powerless. 

For crying out loud, shut the **** up about class - you can't blame all problems on it and quite frankly you are a hypocrite to do so, rich boy. People make concious decisions in life, they aren't controlled by class - they CHOOSE to take an action, nobody can force their hand other than themselves.

No, their choices are determined by their class.  Of course the poor have almost no choices, while the rich have a pleasing variety.

[John Dibble]

Our heirarchical society - based upon power and human abuse - naturally breeds such psychological needs.

Now if that were true everyone would be rapists. And they aren't. Try again.

No, that doesn't follow.  Psychological ills created by our abusive heirarchical social order vary from person to person, and particularly based upon class.  For example a rich person who has near total power over the world around him has no reason to have resentments, while a poor - who has absolutely no power - naturally develops an abiding desire to act out in some way that will make him (at least temporarily) feel less powerless. 

For crying out loud, shut the **** up about class - you can't blame all problems on it and quite frankly you are a hypocrite to do so, rich boy. People make concious decisions in life, they aren't controlled by class - they CHOOSE to take an action, nobody can force their hand other than themselves.

No, their choices are determined by their class.  Of course the poor have almost no choices, while the rich have a pleasing variety.

No, they choose to take an action of their own will. By your logic, every last poor person would be a criminal of some sort, and that is blatantly not true. You shouldn't talk about the real world until you've lived in it, spoiled brat.

[opebo]

Our heirarchical society - based upon power and human abuse - naturally breeds such psychological needs.

Now if that were true everyone would be rapists. And they aren't. Try again.

No, that doesn't follow.  Psychological ills created by our abusive heirarchical social order vary from person to person, and particularly based upon class.  For example a rich person who has near total power over the world around him has no reason to have resentments, while a poor - who has absolutely no power - naturally develops an abiding desire to act out in some way that will make him (at least temporarily) feel less powerless. 

For crying out loud, shut the **** up about class - you can't blame all problems on it and quite frankly you are a hypocrite to do so, rich boy. People make concious decisions in life, they aren't controlled by class - they CHOOSE to take an action, nobody can force their hand other than themselves.

No, their choices are determined by their class.  Of course the poor have almost no choices, while the rich have a pleasing variety.

No, they choose to take an action of their own will. By your logic, every last poor person would be a criminal of some sort, and that is blatantly not true. You shouldn't talk about the real world until you've lived in it, spoiled brat.

Their choices are to be a slave or a rebel.  Certainly the former is more practical in a sense, but the latter is far more respectable.

[John Dibble]

Our heirarchical society - based upon power and human abuse - naturally breeds such psychological needs.

Now if that were true everyone would be rapists. And they aren't. Try again.

No, that doesn't follow.  Psychological ills created by our abusive heirarchical social order vary from person to person, and particularly based upon class.  For example a rich person who has near total power over the world around him has no reason to have resentments, while a poor - who has absolutely no power - naturally develops an abiding desire to act out in some way that will make him (at least temporarily) feel less powerless. 

For crying out loud, shut the **** up about class - you can't blame all problems on it and quite frankly you are a hypocrite to do so, rich boy. People make concious decisions in life, they aren't controlled by class - they CHOOSE to take an action, nobody can force their hand other than themselves.

No, their choices are determined by their class.  Of course the poor have almost no choices, while the rich have a pleasing variety.

No, they choose to take an action of their own will. By your logic, every last poor person would be a criminal of some sort, and that is blatantly not true. You shouldn't talk about the real world until you've lived in it, spoiled brat.

Their choices are to be a slave or a rebel.  Certainly the former is more practical in a sense, but the latter is far more respectable.

Raping an innocent woman is rebellion how?

After all your stupidity, I've reached a conclusion about you - opebo, you should have been a blowjob.

[opebo]

Our heirarchical society - based upon power and human abuse - naturally breeds such psychological needs.

Now if that were true everyone would be rapists. And they aren't. Try again.

No, that doesn't follow.  Psychological ills created by our abusive heirarchical social order vary from person to person, and particularly based upon class.  For example a rich person who has near total power over the world around him has no reason to have resentments, while a poor - who has absolutely no power - naturally develops an abiding desire to act out in some way that will make him (at least temporarily) feel less powerless. 

For crying out loud, shut the **** up about class - you can't blame all problems on it and quite frankly you are a hypocrite to do so, rich boy. People make concious decisions in life, they aren't controlled by class - they CHOOSE to take an action, nobody can force their hand other than themselves.

No, their choices are determined by their class.  Of course the poor have almost no choices, while the rich have a pleasing variety.

No, they choose to take an action of their own will. By your logic, every last poor person would be a criminal of some sort, and that is blatantly not true. You shouldn't talk about the real world until you've lived in it, spoiled brat.

Their choices are to be a slave or a rebel.  Certainly the former is more practical in a sense, but the latter is far more respectable.

Raping an innocent woman is rebellion how?

It might be an imprecise, poorly thought out type of rebellion if the woman were of a higher caste than the rapist.

What I call the irrational but predictable thrashing about under the bootheel.  The working class can hardly be expected to focus its hatred and anger, but such outbursts are unsurprising.

[John Dibble]

I reiterate - you should have been a blowjob.

[Speed of Sound]

Our heirarchical society - based upon power and human abuse - naturally breeds such psychological needs.

Now if that were true everyone would be rapists. And they aren't. Try again.

No, that doesn't follow.  Psychological ills created by our abusive heirarchical social order vary from person to person, and particularly based upon class.  For example a rich person who has near total power over the world around him has no reason to have resentments, while a poor - who has absolutely no power - naturally develops an abiding desire to act out in some way that will make him (at least temporarily) feel less powerless. 

For crying out loud, shut the **** up about class - you can't blame all problems on it and quite frankly you are a hypocrite to do so, rich boy. People make concious decisions in life, they aren't controlled by class - they CHOOSE to take an action, nobody can force their hand other than themselves.

No, their choices are determined by their class.  Of course the poor have almost no choices, while the rich have a pleasing variety.

No, they choose to take an action of their own will. By your logic, every last poor person would be a criminal of some sort, and that is blatantly not true. You shouldn't talk about the real world until you've lived in it, spoiled brat.

Their choices are to be a slave or a rebel.  Certainly the former is more practical in a sense, but the latter is far more respectable.

Raping an innocent woman is rebellion how?

It might be an imprecise, poorly thought out type of rebellion if the woman were of a higher caste than the rapist.

congrats. you just turned me republican for the rest of the week.