Is Blanco walking dead?

[Burn baby, Burn]

after the hurricane, it seems that the media agrees that Bush, Blanco, and Nagan are all responsible. I argue that all three will be defeated, anyone agree/disagree with my assessment?

[© tweed]

Bush won't be defeated, he won't run again.

Blanco may have a fighting chance.

Nagin is most likely toast.

That's just my read on it, not based on anything, just an opinion.

[ag]

Bush will never be defeated - he can't run again. What now happens with New Orleans city politics nobody can guess - all depends on who comes back, how is the reconstruction going, etc. Nagin's fate is an imponderable. Blanco will have hard time irrespective of anything: if a fairly large part of the NO population does not come back any statewide Democrat is in trouble.  Still, it is too early to make any guesses here.

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Does anyone really care whether Nagin is defeated?

[J. J.]

Does anyone really care whether Nagin is defeated?

Yes, I like to see good people in government; Nagin isn't one of them.

[Alcon]

Does anyone really care whether Nagin is defeated?

Yes.

[TheresNoMoney]

Nagin just moved to Dallas. He's done in Louisiana.

[Cubby]

after the hurricane, it seems that the media agrees that Bush, Blanco, and Nagan are all responsible. I argue that all three will be defeated, anyone agree/disagree with my assessment?

I understand people's issues with Bush and perhaps Nagin as well but what specifically did Governor Blanco do to arise the wrath of the voters? Are people just going to blame whoever's in charge? Its not like Blanco controlled millions of dollars in levee funds and hurricane planning.

Or is the issue that New Orleans was her major base of support and with its population dispersed, she's lost her base?

[AuH2O]

"Pym," you're an ignorant asshole. Blanco controls the Louisiana National Guard and they are supposed to be the first and primary military respondents. Bush could have gone over her head by invoking the Insurrection Act, but then Congress would go crazy.

[nini2287]

She shouldn't have been elected in 2003 and she won't be re-elected in 2007 (especially if the Republicans nominate a white candidate).

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

"Pym," you're an ignorant asshole. Blanco controls the Louisiana National Guard and they are supposed to be the first and primary military respondents. Bush could have gone over her head by invoking the Insurrection Act, but then Congress would go crazy.

What is the point of this insult?  Whether Pym was factually wrong or not, he's post was polite, didn't attack anyone, and certainly didn't merit an ad hominem attack.

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What about the mayor of Biloxi, MS, who didn't have any evacuation, and 250 people died? Oh, wait, he's a Republican, so it's OK.

[Defarge]

Whether or not she deserves it, without New Orleans, Democrats don't have a fighting chance of winning state office.  Landrieu will probably lose if she runs for reelection.  So will Blanco. Meanwhile, the logistics of holding mayoral elections in New Orleans are unimaginable.

[Ben.]

Whether or not she deserves it, without New Orleans, Democrats don't have a fighting chance of winning state office.  Landrieu will probably lose if she runs for reelection.  So will Blanco. Meanwhile, the logistics of holding mayoral elections in New Orleans are unimaginable.

Its important to remember that Blanco and Landrieu did poorly in New Orleans back in both 02 and 03, in 02 Landrieu faced a Republican who was based in New Orleans and who's campaign was very sucessful in supressing the black vote and in 03 Blanco was opposed by Jindal who togehter with Nagin's support did well in apealing to black voters indeed Blacon largly got by thanks the the votes of the "good old boys" up-state while Landrieu would have lost had she not expanded her vote by signifcant margins amougst white voters in the December runoff contest in 2002.

Of the two Landrieu has by far the better shot, as she's come of Katrina better than anyone else, however your right to argue that New Orleans is going to take some time to get back on its feet and that will hurt Democrats statewide.   

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Are you all sure that less people in the New Orleans area would hurt Blanco? Jefferson Parish took a hell of a hit for one thing...

[J. J.]

What about the mayor of Biloxi, MS, who didn't have any evacuation, and 250 people died? Oh, wait, he's a Republican, so it's OK.

No, but did he have the resources, like Nagin did?  Were the people that didn't evecauate have ability to use those resources and did they have will to use them.


I'm not blaming Nagin for not getting the 80,000+ that chose to stay on the 29th, nor would I blame the Mayor of Biloxi for not getting people out who refused to leave.

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What about the mayor of Biloxi, MS, who didn't have any evacuation, and 250 people died? Oh, wait, he's a Republican, so it's OK.

No, but did he have the resources, like Nagin did?  Were the people that didn't evecauate have ability to use those resources and did they have will to use them.


I'm not blaming Nagin for not getting the 80,000+ that chose to stay on the 29th, nor would I blame the Mayor of Biloxi for not getting people out who refused to leave.

The Biloxi mayor never ordered an evacuation. You can trash Nagin all you want, but he ordered a mandatory evacuation. This isn't a question of what resources Biloxi had, he never even tried.

[Jake]

Nagin will not run, Blanco will not win if she even does run simply because I doubt that either of the three officials will come out of this electable to any office. Remember that she only defeated a Republican by four points even after pulling out every trick in the book. It's doubtful she could defeat even a mediocre Republican in 2007.

[A-Max]

Landrieu should be toast as well.  For all her blaming of Bush, it is interesting that she was unable to mobilize a single bus to evacuate her constituents in the 48 hours priopr to the hurricane, though when she needed their votes, she was able to assemble a hundred or more in less than 14 hours.   I guess it's all about the motivation.

[J. J.]

What about the mayor of Biloxi, MS, who didn't have any evacuation, and 250 people died? Oh, wait, he's a Republican, so it's OK.

No, but did he have the resources, like Nagin did?  Were the people that didn't evecauate have ability to use those resources and did they have will to use them.


I'm not blaming Nagin for not getting the 80,000+ that chose to stay on the 29th, nor would I blame the Mayor of Biloxi for not getting people out who refused to leave.

The Biloxi mayor never ordered an evacuation. You can trash Nagin all you want, but he ordered a mandatory evacuation. This isn't a question of what resources Biloxi had, he never even tried.

He ordered a "mandatory evacuation" that he neither could enforce nor had any intention of enforcing.  He had the resources to offer transportation out during the voluntary evacuation phase.  This was Ray Nagin saying "Get out, ah, you people without cars,  you're all on your own."

JFRAUD why do support the policies of someone that had effect of killing and injuring mostly poor and mostly Black people.

[The Dowager Mod]

Nice to see all the lovely finger pointing still going strong.

[J. J.]

Landrieu should be toast as well.  For all her blaming of Bush, it is interesting that she was unable to mobilize a single bus to evacuate her constituents in the 48 hours priopr to the hurricane, though when she needed their votes, she was able to assemble a hundred or more in less than 14 hours.   I guess it's all about the motivation.

I can't fault Landrieu; US Senators don't have bus fleets.  I can't blame Blanco; LA did not have a fleet of buses sitting in NOLA.  I can't blame Bush or Brown; the federal government did not have a bus fleet sitting in NOLA.  Nagin did have a bus fleet sitting (and now rusting) in NOLA; the city had an evacuation plan to use them.  Nagin did not use them.

[J. J.]

Nice to see all the lovely finger pointing still going strong.

I'm just overjoyed Nagin isn't the Mayor of Philadelphia.  I'd kinda like to see most of the people in my neighborhood survive a disaster like Katrina.

[J. J.]

Short answer to the title question, no.

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Landrieu should be toast as well.  For all her blaming of Bush, it is interesting that she was unable to mobilize a single bus to evacuate her constituents in the 48 hours priopr to the hurricane, though when she needed their votes, she was able to assemble a hundred or more in less than 14 hours.   I guess it's all about the motivation.

Hahaha, yeah it must be her fault, since a lowly ranking Senator in the minority party has all of the power when it comes to the federal response.