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« on: February 21, 2018, 09:00:07 PM »

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Perhaps we could start by focusing on the mental health of the sociopath in the Oval Office? Just a thought.
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2018, 09:03:50 PM »

Republicans don’t want to pay teachers much, but they’d give them guns?  LOL
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2018, 09:31:24 PM »

What about the majority of teachers who don't know how to use guns and have no interest in having them in classrooms? Will they be forced?
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2018, 09:31:36 PM »
« Edited: February 21, 2018, 09:42:35 PM by OneJ_ »

I don't in any way understand the reasoning behind this. You already have f'ing police officers across the country mishandling weapons & too many souls have been taken away from their carelessness and now you have people saying that you want teachers (most not even trained) to have guns in their possessions???

You're literally opening a door that leads to a flood of new problems, not fixing them.

Edit: One problem I could see happening is when students walk around campus with hoods on. Usually teachers understandably tell them to take them off, but what happens when a teacher who has a gun mistakens a student for someone else who is probably a suspect on the loose? How can you defend that? Deflect like usual or just say it was the student's fault or whatever?

Republicans don’t want to pay teachers much, but they’d give them guns?  LOL

That is actually a very solid point.

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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2018, 09:32:48 PM »

Why don't we give them crossbows, then we'll be able to bypass gun laws in school zones.
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2018, 09:34:34 PM »

Republicans don’t want to pay teachers much, but they’d give them guns?  LOL
You win.
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2018, 09:35:54 PM »

Why don't we give them crossbows, then we'll be able to bypass gun laws in school zones.
The 1400s called; they said these weapons seem outmoded.
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2018, 09:39:34 PM »

A teacher might snap and do a mass shooting yes, this is one of the dumbest proposals
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2018, 09:59:33 PM »

Will they provide teachers with free firearms training?

Will guns be mandatory for all school staff?  Lunch ladies?  Janitors?

Will they have one in the chamber at all times ready to go?

Safety on or nah?

Is this for all grade levels?  Kindergarten?

What if a student overpowers a teacher and takes his/her gun?

Not every teacher is physically capable of defending themselves against a teen(s) wanting to take their gun. Not every teacher would be willing to shoot said teen. Some teachers will be too willing.

Having authority figures walking around with guns paints a great picture for the future generations of Americans.

Putting guns in the classroom will NOT stop school shootings and school violence. In many cases it will encourage it. I knew plenty of kids in school who would’ve thought it’d be cool to take the teachers hypothetical gun.
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2018, 10:02:05 PM »

At this point why not have mandatory gun ownership? It seems like the direction the GOP is going in.

Cyborg laser guns for everyone!
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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2018, 10:02:11 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2018, 10:04:05 PM »

Will they provide teachers with free firearms training?

Will guns be mandatory for all school staff?  Lunch ladies?  Janitors?

Will they have one in the chamber at all times ready to go?

Safety on or nah?

Is this for all grade levels?  Kindergarten?

What if a student overpowers a teacher and takes his/her gun?

Not every teacher is physically capable of defending themselves against a teen(s) wanting to take their gun. Not every teacher would be willing to shoot said teen. Some teachers will be too willing.

Having authority figures walking around with guns paints a great picture for the future generations of Americans.

Putting guns in the classroom will NOT stop school shootings and school violence. In many cases it will encourage it. I knew plenty of kids in school who would’ve thought it’d be cool to take the teachers hypothetical gun.
I'm just gonna agree with this.
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« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2018, 10:04:22 PM »

What about school bus drivers?

What about little old lady teachers?

Special education teachers?

Counselors and those in direct one-on-one private contact with would-be school shooters?

Where is the proposed solution to improve mental health outreach?
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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2018, 10:17:20 PM »

What about the majority of teachers who don't know how to use guns and have no interest in having them in classrooms? Will they be forced?

I imagine that as long as the public education money goes into gun industry pockets, no one will care if the guns actually get carrier or not.
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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2018, 10:20:33 PM »

This sounds like a terrible idea.
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« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2018, 10:30:48 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2018, 11:13:47 PM »

What about school bus drivers?

What about little old lady teachers?

Special education teachers?

Counselors and those in direct one-on-one private contact with would-be school shooters?

Where is the proposed solution to improve mental health outreach?

My teachers are allowed to have concealed carry guns, and one of the two that does is a “little old lady” counselor, and the other one is a “little old lady” that works at the school entrance as a secretary. No one has been shot yet by either of these teachers, but good try.
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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2018, 11:15:00 PM »

I'll repost what I posted in the town hall thread:

I mean, advocating for arming teaching is a blindly transparent move by the NRA to increase gun manufacturers' sales. Especially since the education budget itself is unlikely to be increased, purchasing guns (as well as paying for any licenses, training, etc.) would have to come out of money that can be spent on, I don't know, textbooks?
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« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2018, 11:15:30 PM »

This man is unfit to be President.
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« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2018, 11:18:22 PM »

So many people are already atrocious when it comes to gun safety in their home, imagine now all the accidental deaths in a school. This idea is utter lunacy from people determined to talk about anything but the real issue
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« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2018, 01:00:24 AM »

There are schools in this country that don't even have enough money to pay for heating. Is the GOP going to buy every teacher a gun?
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« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2018, 01:54:35 AM »


Don't forget the 4-year degree (minimum), certification required, 2+ years teaching experience, validation test may be required depending on the state, will be attacked constantly by the same party that thinks you need to have a gun on school grounds.
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« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2018, 02:05:23 AM »

Teachers with AR15's in the classroom will finally make those darned kids behave themselves, right conservatives?
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« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2018, 02:13:56 AM »

What about school bus drivers?

What about little old lady teachers?

Special education teachers?

Counselors and those in direct one-on-one private contact with would-be school shooters?

Where is the proposed solution to improve mental health outreach?

Will they provide teachers with free firearms training?

Will guns be mandatory for all school staff?  Lunch ladies?  Janitors?

Will they have one in the chamber at all times ready to go?

Safety on or nah?

Is this for all grade levels?  Kindergarten?

These are the sorts of questions I need to see answered before I could make a decision on whether to support or oppose a bill.
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« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2018, 06:10:23 AM »

Btw for another reason why giving every school worker a mandatory firearm could be a bad idea, see Philandro Castille, a lunch worker shot to death by police during a traffic stop for caring a legally-owned sidearm.
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