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« on: September 13, 2005, 08:55:42 PM »
« edited: September 13, 2005, 09:15:57 PM by Sarnstrom »

There is enough people from Minnesota on here to start this thread.

With 70% In:

CHRIS COLEMAN               9,172           51%    DFL endored
 (i) RANDY KELLY                4,816           26%
 ELIZABETH DICKINSON    3,582            19%    Green Party endorsed


As of now it appears that Kelly will atleast make the run-off. It looks like Kelly is taking a beating for endorsing Bush in 2004.
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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2005, 09:05:40 PM »

RT Rybak? I've read good things about him. Is he mayor of Minneapolis?
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2005, 09:07:36 PM »
« Edited: September 13, 2005, 09:37:53 PM by Sarnstrom »

RT Rybak? I've read good things about him. Is he mayor of Minneapolis?
Yep, those results are just starting to come in:

61% In:

Ryback:          44%
McLaughlin:   34%
Hakeem:        14%
Others:          ~8%
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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2005, 09:13:38 PM »

I've heard good things about Minnesota. I've read it's similar to the northeast.

Any state that elected Paul Wellstone multiple times is OK in my book.
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2005, 10:47:21 PM »

I was just about to post this.

With these numbers, Kelly is toast. Coleman is in no way related to that worthless bag of sh!t excuse for a senator by the way despite the fact he was also ironically a former St. Paul mayor and Democrat. But Coleman is a real liberal Democrat who will not switch parties.

Since Coleman already has over 50% and almost all the Green votes will go to him in the runoff in November, it's safe to say Kelly has been ousted. Take that Keystone Phil!

And yes, Rybak is a great mayor. He personally helped organize and attended anti-war and anti-Bush rallies. Closer results but he should win in November too. Although McLaughlin is also a Democrat, and I don't know if he's more liberal or conservative. Since Republicans have no chance in Twin Cities races, they just vote for the more conservative Democrat, obviously Kelly the traitor in St. Paul.
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2005, 10:49:00 PM »

Norm Coleman is my 2nd most hated Republican Senator. You Minnesotans really need to get rid of him in 2008!!
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2005, 10:59:24 PM »

I'm going to be trying like hell, believe me.
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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2005, 09:05:38 AM »


It looks like Kelly is taking a beating for endorsing Bush in 2004.


And justly so Smiley. I'd like to think he sinks without a trace Wink

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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2005, 06:25:16 PM »

Mason Dixon Poll +/- 5%

Coleman      61%
Kelly             28%

From the Pioneer Press:
"Former City Council Member Chris Coleman's nearly 2-to-1 primary election lead over St. Paul Mayor Randy Kelly appears to be widening significantly, according to a poll conducted this week for the Pioneer Press.

Coleman now leads Kelly 61 percent to 28 percent, according to a telephone survey of 400 registered St. Paul voters who say they plan to cast a ballot on Nov. 8. The poll, conducted Tuesday and Wednesday by Mason-Dixon Polling and Research, has a margin of error of 5 percent.

The numbers appear to reflect an actual drop in support for the incumbent since the Sept. 13 primary. Coleman, by contrast, received 50.7 percent of the primary vote and appears to be gaining ground on his former political ally.

"It's a staggering result," said University of Minnesota political science professor Larry Jacobs, who is conducting his own poll and expects to have results next week. "This is the first time in over three decades that an incumbent St. Paul mayor seems to be heading not just for a defeat, but a trouncing."

In fact, only two St. Paul mayors in the past half-century have been defeated at the polls after one term: John Daubney was beaten by Joe Dillion in 1954, and Charles McCarty finished third in the 1972 primary."
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2005, 09:01:20 PM »

That's awesome.
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2005, 09:38:01 PM »

Hardly a surprise, but I will enjoy watching that traitor go down hard.
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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2005, 09:42:12 PM »

Hardly a surprise, but I will enjoy watching that traitor go down hard.

You mentioned me earlier so I think I should respond.

This is an acceptable way to get Kelly out of office. If a Republican official in my area stood with Kerry and against what my party believed in, I'd likely vote against that candidate in the primary. However, I believe they tried to recall Kelly for his Bush endorsement. That is ridiculous.
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« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2005, 12:24:35 PM »
« Edited: November 06, 2005, 12:29:32 PM by Sarnstrom »

Star Tribune Poll, October 30th-November 4th, +/- 4.3%

Saint Paul
Coleman     66%
(i) Kelly        25%

Minneapolis
(i) Rybak     55%
McLaughlin  33%

http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/news/13098088.htm
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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2005, 12:35:20 PM »

*waits patiently for someone to come along and complain about BRTD calling someone a "traitor" for political reasons like they did to me*
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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2005, 04:24:44 PM »

I'm surprised to see Rybak that far ahead. I expected him to be leading, but not by that. An earlier poll actually showed them both getting exactly what they got in the primary.

But my predicitons:

Minneapolis:
Rybak - 59
McLaughlin - 41

St. Paul:
Coleman - 72
Kelly - 28
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« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2005, 04:55:08 PM »

*waits patiently for someone to come along and complain about BRTD calling someone a "traitor" for political reasons like they did to me*
Just shows you're getting taken more seriously. Tongue
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« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2005, 06:33:28 PM »

Oh and there's quite a big difference between Kelly and the peopl don is being critical of.

Don is bashing anyone who ever criticizes Bush and doesn't back him 100% on everything he does, like Miers.

Kelly actually endorsed Bush.

I doubt don would be too fond of any Republican who endorsed Kerry.

BTW, Kelly's campaign involved one of the most boneheaded moves he could do: Get fellow traitor Ed Koch to come campaign for him and talk about how Kelly has established "friends in high places". Yeah, that's brilliant, remind people of the reason Kelly is going down hard on Tuesday.

And shortly afterwords guess who came to campaign for Coleman? John Kerry.
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« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2005, 06:34:58 PM »



And shortly afterwords guess who came to campaign for Coleman? John Kerry.

I can see the coalition group now - Unimportant Defeated Presidential Candidates for Coleman. I wonder if Mr. Gore has received an invitation to campaign for Coleman yet.
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« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2005, 06:38:44 PM »



And shortly afterwords guess who came to campaign for Coleman? John Kerry.

I can see the coalition group now - Unimportant Defeated Presidential Candidates for Coleman. I wonder if Mr. Gore has received an invitation to campaign for Coleman yet.

It makes perfect sense here since Kerry reminds people of exactly why Coleman's going to take this one in a landslide. Had it not have been for Kelly's treason, this would be a 50/50 race, and would actually be quite interesting to watch.

Now the only thing worth watch is if Kelly wins a single precinct. I'm guessing against it. Bush's only got 36.75% in his best St. Paul precinct.
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« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2005, 06:43:14 PM »

Perhaps it hasn't come to anyone's attention here that the primary purpose of a Mayor is to manage a city, and that is what he should be judged by - not just his Presidential endorsements.
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« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2005, 06:47:09 PM »

Perhaps it hasn't come to anyone's attention here that the primary purpose of a Mayor is to manage a city, and that is what he should be judged by - not just his Presidential endorsements.

Well Kelly isn't helping by the fact that he's basically campaigning as a Republican and bashing Coleman for supporting a property tax increase.

He's always been a DINO and he only won by about 400 votes last time. Now he's going down HARD.
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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2005, 07:11:10 AM »

How's he actually done as Mayor? I've no idea; if he's been a bad Mayor then it'd be good to see him get ousted. If he's been an average Mayor... well... this wouldn't really be "fair" as such, but that's politics. But if he's otherwise been a good Mayor and the people are going to throw him out because of a Presidential endorsement, then I would support disenfranchising the City of St Paul on the grounds of collective insanity.
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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2005, 11:47:19 AM »
« Edited: November 07, 2005, 11:50:21 AM by Left of the Dial »

Well the polls did show that people are happy with the state of St. Paul too, but like I said he's basically running as a Republican. The fact that he's taking a page from the Pawlenty book with the whole "I won't ever raise taxes no matter what" deal is not a good thing as Pawlenty's shown.

He was also attacked by the left wing of the DFL and didn't get along with the City Council even before the endorsement for being rather pro-business (he vetoed the smoking ban) and was seen by most as being owned by the St. Paul Chamber of Commerce. Of course Coleman isn't all that far left either, the St. Paul Chamber of Commerce has actually endorsed both. Normally the far leftists in St. Paul would be throwing fits about this race, but they'll tolerate Coleman's moderate-ness just to get rid of Kelly.

So you have two candidates that are somewhat similar, one is slightly to the left of the other guy, and the other guy sounds like a Republican and endorsed Bush. Not hard to see what will happen in a heavily Democratic city.

And like I said earlier, he only won by about 400 votes last time.
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« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2005, 03:15:07 PM »

Yes, but how's the city's economy been? Crime rate? Public transport (if he's responsible for that)? Regeneration/Development? That kind of stuff?
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« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2005, 11:12:58 PM »

It's basically been the same since he was first elected although the quality of public services has gone down somewhat due to budget cuts, due to the whole "no new taxes" thing.
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