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« on: January 30, 2018, 12:50:04 PM »

What is that? America is already great because of the advances we made in the 1960s with integration, etc.

What the hell does that mean? Make America Great Again? Why did Reagan 1980 and Trump 2016 say that?
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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2018, 01:01:57 PM »

Reagan in 1980 said it due to a bad economy and a general feeling we were losing to the Soviets due to the Iran hostages and the Afghan invasion so he was invoking nostalgia for the Eisenhower/JFK years of good economy and beating the Russians. Trump said it because the country is getting browner
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2018, 01:02:17 PM »

It represents nostalgia for a time when white people possessed an absolute control over society.
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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2018, 01:04:30 PM »

It represents nostalgia for a time when white people possessed an absolute control over society.
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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2018, 01:07:13 PM »
« Edited: January 30, 2018, 01:09:04 PM by We Have A Pope »

What is that? America is already great because of the advances we made in the 1960s with integration, etc.

What the hell does that mean? Make America Great Again? Why did Reagan 1980 and Trump 2016 say that?

It means "Let's go back to the days when Jews kept to themselves, blacks were janitors, women never ventured beyond the kitchen, bedroom, and secretarial desk, Hispanics did nothing except mow lawns and pick oranges, gays stayed in the closet, the voting age was higher, and anyone who wasn't a middle-aged or elderly upper-class straight white Christian man knew that they were meant to be seen and not heard whenever they crossed paths with their betters."  Whatever it may've meant when Trump first started using it, it's now basically coded language that bigots use to harken back to the "good old days."  It's like how "America First" is a coded reference the fascist and highly anti-Semitic America First Committee of the early 40s.
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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2018, 01:07:23 PM »

In 1980 it resonated cause the economy was terrible(worst since depression), the Iran hostage crises, and communism was making advances in the world and it seemed like there was nothing that could be done to make things better.


In 2016 it was simply because of anti-free trade/ anti-globalization backlash
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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2018, 01:09:26 PM »

In 1980 it resonated cause the economy was terrible(worst since depression), the Iran hostage crises, and communism was making advances in the world and it seemed like there was nothing that could be done to make things better.


In 2016 it was simply because of anti-free trade/ anti-globalization backlash


Ah yes, economic anxiety... lol
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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2018, 01:09:45 PM »

It represents nostalgia for a time when white people possessed an absolute control over society.
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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2018, 01:10:13 PM »

White identity politics
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« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2018, 01:10:38 PM »

In 1980 it resonated cause the economy was terrible(worst since depression), the Iran hostage crises, and communism was making advances in the world and it seemed like there was nothing that could be done to make things better.


In 2016 it was simply because of anti-free trade/ anti-globalization backlash


Ah yes, economic anxiety... lol


No that doesnt mean that . Anti Globalization can mean anti-immigrant as well
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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2018, 01:11:26 PM »



not in 1980
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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2018, 01:13:04 PM »

It represented a time when the US had a considerably higher standard of living than the rest of the world, after WWII, and the per capita income in real dollars for the working and middle class was growing robustly. And if only the US were a better negotiator, and didn't make bad trade deals, we can bring it all back again (and slash back on redistributionist tax regimes as well). Pity there is zero empirical evidence for that, and it is totally delusional.
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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2018, 01:15:09 PM »

Make America Great White Again.
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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2018, 01:17:06 PM »

It represents nostalgia for a time when white people possessed an absolute control over society.
How is this any different than it is now?
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2018, 01:20:29 PM »

Morph it into a Republican hell-hole.
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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2018, 01:29:35 PM »

Make America White Again basically.
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« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2018, 01:44:28 PM »

Make America White Again basically.

Is this really true? America is already great in a sense. What more?
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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2018, 01:50:06 PM »

Basically Make America White Again. it's a dog whistle to appeal to racist whites who don't like the fact that America is getting more and more diverse and feel threatened by the scary brown people.

*As others have said, this wasn't the intention behind it when Reagan used it, only when Trump used it.
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« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2018, 02:44:27 PM »


Yes, just as much so. Lee Atwater admitted the appeal of Reagonomics was that it would hurt blacks. Why do you think Reagan invented the "Chicago woman"?

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Lee_Atwater

[quote]You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites.
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« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2018, 03:01:09 PM »

Basically Make America White Again. it's a dog whistle to appeal to racist whites who don't like the fact that America is getting more and more diverse and feel threatened by the scary brown people.

*As others have said, this wasn't the intention behind it when Reagan used it, only when Trump used it.
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« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2018, 03:12:41 PM »

It means whatever voters want it to mean.
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« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2018, 03:35:33 PM »

"Make America white again."
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« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2018, 03:36:58 PM »

Destroy globalism every way you can. Have some fair and even free trade, but make sure to think about the individual worker in your country. Make sure you strengthen borders, lessen migration, and put each other's country first. If you're in Great Britain, focus on yourselves. If you're in Italy, focus on yourselves. You get the idea.

Make sure, like the Dalai Lama said, not to lose your cultural identity.

Cut taxes, cut immigration, cut regulation, cut spending, cut entitlements, cut cut cut. Less taxation, less regulation, less litigation.

Stop political correctness, especially when the opposing view is vastly outnumbered by the majority. For example, if there is a school of 800 kids and they throw an annual Halloween party and two of the 800 kids don't celebrate Halloween, be sure not to cancel the party. Don't upset 798 to appease two.

A solid decade of this, and the world will become a better place.
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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2018, 03:40:52 PM »

It means whatever voters want it to mean.
This. I don't buy that everyone who believes in "MAGA" thinks of it as "MAWA" (even though some definitely do).
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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2018, 03:53:03 PM »

Right now it means getting Trump out of office.
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