Which Swiss political party would you support?

[Lechasseur]

I took the 4 parties with representation on the Federal Council:

Swiss People's Party (SVP/UDC): National Conservatism, Right-wing Populism, Right-wing

Social Democratic Party (SP/PS): Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Centre-left to Left-wing

FDP.The Liberals (FDP/PLR): Conservative Liberalism, Liberalism, Centre to Centre-right

The Centre (DM/LC): Christian Democracy, Social Conservatism, Centre to Centre-right

[Lechasseur]

I'd support The Centre (DM/LC)

[If my soul was made of stone]

PdA, to show solidarity with the Neuchâtel watchmakers

[Goldwater]

I would most likely be a FDP/PLR voter.

[parochial boy]

PdA, to show solidarity with the Neuchâtel watchmakers

PdT in that case. No german please 😇 especially seeing as they basically don't exist on the bad side of the Röstigraben

I vote PS mostly in practice. Easily the best European Social Democratic party on just about every measure.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

The only left wing party on this list is the Social Democratic Party (SP/PS). But I looked them up and apparently they are "opposed to capitalism". So I can't support them.

Any other noteworthy left-wing party in Switzerland? One that's not "opposed to capitalism" lol

[If my soul was made of stone]

The only left wing party on this list is the Social Democratic Party (SP/PS). But I looked them up and apparently they are "opposed to capitalism". So I can't support them.

Tell me you know nothing about how the Swiss government works without telling me you know nothing about the Swiss government works.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

Tell me you know nothing about how the Swiss government works without telling me you know nothing about the Swiss government works.

OK, so instead of answering my question or educating me on how the Swiss government works, you respond with snark?

[Leading Political Consultant Ma Anand Sheela]

The only left wing party on this list is the Social Democratic Party (SP/PS). But I looked them up and apparently they are "opposed to capitalism". So I can't support them.

Any other noteworthy left-wing party in Switzerland? One that's not "opposed to capitalism" lol

The only left wing party on this list is the Social Democratic Party (SP/PS). But I looked them up and apparently they are "opposed to capitalism". So I can't support them.

Tell me you know nothing about how the Swiss government works without telling me you know nothing about the Swiss government works.

Hm, what might it say about them, and the Swiss political system in general, that they claim to be 'opposed to capitalism' but also are completely content with being in eternal coalition with three right-wing parties? I would simply think critically and not take Wikipedia infoboxes and snippets of out-of-date rhetoric at complete face value.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

Hm, what might it say about them, and the Swiss political system in general, that they claim to be 'opposed to capitalism' but also are completely content with being in eternal coalition with three right-wing parties? I would simply think critically and not take Wikipedia infoboxes and snippets of out-of-date rhetoric at complete face value.

Insulting my intelligence, cool.

Why don't you "educate" me then, Oh Wise One?

[Vice President Christian Man]

Centre

[President Johnson]

Social Democrats, obviously.

[S019]

Probably Green Liberal (Other), but I could see myself voting FDP.

[Lechasseur]

PdA, to show solidarity with the Neuchâtel watchmakers

PdT in that case. No german please 😇 especially seeing as they basically don't exist on the bad side of the Röstigraben

I vote PS mostly in practice. Easily the best European Social Democratic party on just about every measure.

Yeah I generally think Switzerland is pretty good politically, except for the UDC.

The UDC are just as bad as RN in France if not worse.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

I think the more interesting question is would you support the Swiss political system over a more conventional set-up?

[parochial boy]

Hm, what might it say about them, and the Swiss political system in general, that they claim to be 'opposed to capitalism' but also are completely content with being in eternal coalition with three right-wing parties? I would simply think critically and not take Wikipedia infoboxes and snippets of out-of-date rhetoric at complete face value.

Insulting my intelligence, cool.

Why don't you "educate" me then, Oh Wise One?

To bring it to the point. The reference to "overcoming capitalism" comes from a now rather old political programme setting out a series of mostly vague objectives. In practice, a party's manifesto is all but irrelevant in Swiss politics because political decision making is not based around a party coming into power with the intention of implementing a manifesto; or even with the intention of using it to negotiate a governing programme with potential coalition partners.

Legislation in Switzerland is initiated largely from parliamentarians themselves; albeit with some input or projects being initiated by the Federal Council. Meaning that the executive actually has very little influence over either the parliamentary agenda or over how parties vote in legislation. Instead, almost everything is centred around negotiating and parties bringing their own perspectives in order to try and find a project that will eventually be able to obtain a parliamentary majority (and eventually a majority at referendum, although actually most legislation does not wind up going to referendum ever).

Now, in practice, the PS are unusually radical for a SocDem party. That is the case rhetorically, as well in the way that they behave in parliament and in the positions that they take in referendums. For example they supported a campaign to tax capital gains not just as income, but as 150% of income; and are currently collecting signatures on things like a 50% inheritance tax and - rather more far fetched - a 100% wealth tax over 100 million CHF. They are also, in contrast to other Soc Dem parties, more or less irreproachable on issues like LGBT, migrants and refugees rights and express nothing but wholehearted support for all of them; and unlike other Soc Dem parties, they have viscerally opposed the liberalisations of recent decades. Their success in doing so is a large part of why Switzerland is not currently experiencing a cost of living crisis that is at all comparable to the rest of the continent.

But, the point is, the way the Swiss political system works is essentially that is encourages this sort of radical posturing for essentially two reasons.

The first is that you enter the scene with a radical position in order to come out with one that basically works for you. The PS need to make it seem as if there a heavy weight in favour of very radical left wing measures in order to counteract the right wing majority and eventually bring round enough centririst (Green Liberal or Christian Democrat) MPs to implement a somewhat acceptable solution.

The second is, in a country with a more-or-less permanent governing coalition, "antisystem" posturing including on the part of the governing parties is more or less a prerequisite in order to both motivate your support and to break the most fundemental and overriding force in Swiss politics - which is inertia.

Or more to the point, as far as that "overcoming capitalism" line goes. It's not really relevant, it doesn't bear on the parliamentary agenda, or what the PS's members of parliament vote on or propose, or the positions on individual issues that they take. What is does, or did do, is function as a nudge and wink to people on the left that the PS shares their values and that they are the best force for achieving those.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

To bring it to the point. The reference to "overcoming capitalism" comes from a now rather old political programme setting out a series of mostly vague objectives. In practice, a party's manifesto is all but irrelevant in Swiss politics because political decision making is not based around a party coming into power with the intention of implementing a manifesto; or even with the intention of using it to negotiate a governing programme with potential coalition partners.

Legislation in Switzerland is initiated largely from parliamentarians themselves; albeit with some input or projects being initiated by the Federal Council. Meaning that the executive actually has very little influence over either the parliamentary agenda or over how parties vote in legislation. Instead, almost everything is centred around negotiating and parties bringing their own perspectives in order to try and find a project that will eventually be able to obtain a parliamentary majority (and eventually a majority at referendum, although actually most legislation does not wind up going to referendum ever).

Now, in practice, the PS are unusually radical for a SocDem party. That is the case rhetorically, as well in the way that they behave in parliament and in the positions that they take in referendums. For example they supported a campaign to tax capital gains not just as income, but as 150% of income; and are currently collecting signatures on things like a 50% inheritance tax and - rather more far fetched - a 100% wealth tax over 100 million CHF. They are also, in contrast to other Soc Dem parties, more or less irreproachable on issues like LGBT, migrants and refugees rights and express nothing but wholehearted support for all of them; and unlike other Soc Dem parties, they have viscerally opposed the liberalisations of recent decades. Their success in doing so is a large part of why Switzerland is not currently experiencing a cost of living crisis that is at all comparable to the rest of the continent.

But, the point is, the way the Swiss political system works is essentially that is encourages this sort of radical posturing for essentially two reasons.

The first is that you enter the scene with a radical position in order to come out with one that basically works for you. The PS need to make it seem as if there a heavy weight in favour of very radical left wing measures in order to counteract the right wing majority and eventually bring round enough centririst (Green Liberal or Christian Democrat) MPs to implement a somewhat acceptable solution.

The second is, in a country with a more-or-less permanent governing coalition, "antisystem" posturing including on the part of the governing parties is more or less a prerequisite in order to both motivate your support and to break the most fundemental and overriding force in Swiss politics - which is inertia.

Or more to the point, as far as that "overcoming capitalism" line goes. It's not really relevant, it doesn't bear on the parliamentary agenda, or what the PS's members of parliament vote on or propose, or the positions on individual issues that they take. What is does, or did do, is function as a nudge and wink to people on the left that the PS shares their values and that they are the best force for achieving those.

Thank you for the explanation, I appreciate it!.

Based on that, I would be a supporter of the Social Democrats .

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

Switzerland as it is now would probably be exactly how I would run a country, so whoever is pro-status quo (So basically all of them, if I understand correctly)

[VPH]

The Centre but despite being Catholic I could also easily vote for the Evangelical People's Party