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Leading Political Consultant Ma Anand Sheela
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« Reply #575 on: July 12, 2020, 11:35:33 AM »

I voted by mail on Thursday, because Scotland
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« Reply #576 on: July 12, 2020, 11:37:35 AM »

Higher than normal turnout almost definitely benefits PiS and not PO.

Why is this?
Are Polish youth reliable voters, and the elderly fickle?
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« Reply #577 on: July 12, 2020, 11:42:34 AM »

Higher than normal turnout almost definitely benefits PiS and not PO.

Why is this?
Are Polish youth reliable voters, and the elderly fickle?

PiS have more low educated and poor voters, PO is the urban middle class party.
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« Reply #578 on: July 12, 2020, 12:11:24 PM »

What will be the biggest city that PiS will win in a roughly 50-50 result?
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« Reply #579 on: July 12, 2020, 12:12:05 PM »



More turnout maps.
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Leading Political Consultant Ma Anand Sheela
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« Reply #580 on: July 12, 2020, 12:13:16 PM »
« Edited: July 12, 2020, 12:16:59 PM by Heat »

What will be the biggest city that PiS will win in a roughly 50-50 result?
Probably Rzeszów, maybe Lublin.
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« Reply #581 on: July 12, 2020, 12:19:59 PM »

What will be the biggest city that PiS will win in a roughly 50-50 result?
Probably Rzeszów, maybe Lublin.
Actually Radom is also a strong possibility, I always forget it's bigger than Rzeszów.
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« Reply #582 on: July 12, 2020, 12:20:23 PM »

Who is this map good for?
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« Reply #583 on: July 12, 2020, 12:21:31 PM »

Kaczyński's been trolled while voting:





The shirt says "conquer the evil with laughter".
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« Reply #584 on: July 12, 2020, 12:23:03 PM »


TBH good and bad for both candidates. Although weak increases in Lower Silesia and Greater Poland are not really good for Trzaskowski.
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« Reply #585 on: July 12, 2020, 12:28:50 PM »

When can we expect full results?
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« Reply #586 on: July 12, 2020, 12:30:05 PM »

Change in turnout seems to be very high in rural areas



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« Reply #587 on: July 12, 2020, 12:33:31 PM »
« Edited: July 12, 2020, 12:40:00 PM by Oryxslayer »


TBH good and bad for both candidates. Although weak increases in Lower Silesia and Greater Poland are not really good for Trzaskowski.

It also bears stating that in some areas, even strongholds, the Voivodeship is too large of a geography to infer anything from. Rural Mazovia is going to vote very differently than Warsaw, her environs, or Plock. Only fools attempt to predict results by turnout, no matter what contest, no matter who comprises the electorate.
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« Reply #588 on: July 12, 2020, 12:39:38 PM »


TBH good and bad for both candidates. Although weak increases in Lower Silesia and Greater Poland are not really good for Trzaskowski.

It also bears stating that in some areas, even strongholds, the Voivodeship is too large of a geography to infer anything from. Rural Mazovia is going to vote very differently than Warsaw, her environs, or Plock.
I just found a county map of the increases.



Biggest increases seem to be in places where people usually go on vacation.
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« Reply #589 on: July 12, 2020, 12:58:43 PM »

Question:

If tourists vote elsewhere (coast, woods where they go hiking), is their vote counted where they vote ? Or where they usually live ?

In Austria, if people vote in precincts other than their own, the vote counts in the town they are living ... (that is only the case for our parliamentary elections though, to determine the number of seats in each electoral district - not in presidential elections, where there are no seats to be determined by district).

Tourists voting elsewhere also complicate comparisons of turnout between the regions and between each round of voting ...
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« Reply #590 on: July 12, 2020, 01:21:03 PM »

Change in turnout seems to be very high in rural areas



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The dark red in the northeast is Poland's lake country, with various boutique villages in which people have cabins, homes, boats, etc. The southern red splotch is a giant national park. You are seeing the biggest increases among all of these tiny summer resort towns.

In any case, a 3% increase in a big city is vastly better than a 10% increase in a podunk lake town if you are trying to rack up votes.
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« Reply #591 on: July 12, 2020, 01:21:43 PM »

Question:

If tourists vote elsewhere (coast, woods where they go hiking), is their vote counted where they vote ? Or where they usually live ?

I'm quite sure their vote is counted where they vote.

In case of Poles voting abroad, votes are being counted in Warsaw, both in presidential and parliamentary elections.
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« Reply #592 on: July 12, 2020, 01:24:07 PM »

Change in turnout seems to be very high in rural areas



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The dark red in the northeast is Poland's lake country, with various boutique villages in which people have cabins, homes, boats, etc. The southern red splotch is a giant national park. You are seeing the biggest increases among all of these tiny summer resort towns.

In any case, a 3% increase in a big city is vastly better than a 10% increase in a podunk lake town if you are trying to rack up votes.

Yes, it's not just coastal towns/villages people on holiday are voting.

If the election was being held in the autumn, you'd be seeing a lower turnout for that reason.
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« Reply #593 on: July 12, 2020, 01:39:37 PM »

Duda is done. I am just going to call it even at the risk of (again) getting egg all over my face.
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« Reply #594 on: July 12, 2020, 01:42:51 PM »

I really can't see Duda losing, sorry.

Trzaskowski at 2-1 on Betfair if you think otherwise.

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« Reply #595 on: July 12, 2020, 01:58:42 PM »

Turnout projected at 68.9%
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« Reply #596 on: July 12, 2020, 01:59:25 PM »

If only US elections could have turnout that high....*sigh*
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« Reply #597 on: July 12, 2020, 02:00:50 PM »

Exit poll has Duda ahead 50.4-49.6
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« Reply #598 on: July 12, 2020, 02:01:48 PM »

Exit poll has Duda ahead 50.4-49.6

Not bad by prediction then. Still, it's very, very close.
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Leading Political Consultant Ma Anand Sheela
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« Reply #599 on: July 12, 2020, 02:05:16 PM »

The margin of error is 1%, btw. Ipsos are saying it's too close to call.
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