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« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2018, 11:32:23 AM »

My prediction for how the Senate Races will end up in this time line:

D in real life, R in this:

North Dakota
Montana
Indiana (Mourdock not nominated)

D in real life, hard to guess in this:

New Mexico
Wisconsin
Ohio
Virginia
Massachusetts

D in real life, still D in this:

Everything else

Wait until you see what the Senate candidates will be , because many of the Senate Nominees wont be the same as OTL.

Still, I feel reasonably confidant that your timeline will not feature Democrats losing any of these states, in Red on this map (I decided that maybe you will have Republicans winning Pennsylvania in your timeline after the post):

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« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2018, 10:51:16 PM »
« Edited: January 28, 2018, 11:00:10 PM by Old School Republican »

Mitt Romney Releases Foreign Policy Plan:


Basic Principles:

- Our administration will make it clear that we will never apologize for defending our interests

- While we will be willing to compromise during treaty negotiations, we will never compromise on issues which undermine our nation's interests.

- Returning to Teddy Roosevelts foreign policy principle of "speak softly, and carry a big stick"


Europe/Russia:

- We will reverse the Obama administration policy of resetting our relations with Russia(Russian Reset) as that policy has been a failure since the Russians continue to expand its influence over Europe.

- We will work with our European Allies to use diplomatic pressure to counter this expansion of Russian influence.

Goals : Reversing expansion of Russian Influence in Europe


Middle East:

- Allow Israel to set the terms of negotiations with the Palestinians, and reaffirm that our nation will be absolutely committed to Israel's Security.

- Allowing Iran to get a nuclear weapon is unacceptable, and for that reason, we must increase the amount of Sanctions against Iran to make sure Iran never gets a nuclear weapon.

- Letting the Iranian Government know that we won't scale back our sanctions against them unless they abandon their nuclear program entirely and fully comply with periodic inspections.

- Be Generally Supportive of the Arab Spring with arms and funding, but also look at each of the rebelling groups on a case by case basis to make sure that arms provided to them wont fall in the hands of terrorist groups, and to make sure the rebelling groups won't be worse than the government they are replacing .

- Let our Generals Decide the timetable of withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Goals: To make our alliances with Israel Stronger, to stop Iran's Nuclear Weapons program and to win the War on Terror.

Asia:

- Work with China, Japan and South Korea to deal with North Korea

- Work with Asian and Pacific Countries to make sure they don't fall under the influence of the Chinese Government.

- Improve relations with India, and work towards becoming Allies with them.

Goals : To successfully end the North Korean Nuclear Program without risking war, to increase America's influence in Asia instead of that influence going to the Chinese, and to be allied with a country who is one of the fastest growing economies in the world, and to have a vital ally help us win the War on Terror.

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« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2018, 11:36:17 PM »

President Obama slams Romney's position on Relations with the Russians:





Obama: Governor Romney over the past week just released his plans on Foreign Policy. He has claimed that his foreign policy will be different than Bush's Foreign policy and to give him credit they are different. President Bush as wrong as his strategy and policies on the War on Terror was, the enemies he was fighting are our enemies, while Governor Romney wants to fight enemies who are no longer our enemies by restarting the Cold War.  While you may not believe this he recently called for us to reverse the Russain Reset , which all that did was to make our relations with Russia better. Now that is the wrong policy and we cant elect someone who wants to make relations worse not better.



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Romney: President Obama claimed that other day , that I want to restart the Cold War . That is just not true, as all I am saying is we need to tell the Russians not to overextend their boundaries again, as if that happens then it will restart the Cold War. This shows you though that if you have nothing positive to campaign on you will resort to negative attacks.
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« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2018, 06:21:36 PM »
« Edited: January 29, 2018, 06:23:49 PM by Old School Republican »

Notable Republican candidates running for the Senate



Anderson Cooper: with many Democratic Senators up for reelection in Republican States, Republican leaders believe that not only can they win back the White House and The Senate but also win a substantial majority in the Senate. Here with us is John King to talk about how that can be possible

John King: People may be asking Republicans need a net gain of 12 seats to get a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate, so how can they get there. While that is true they do need 12 seats to get a filibuster-majority in the Senate, they can get effectively get a filibuster-proof Senate on many of the issues Governor Romney is running on by getting around 54-55 Senate Seats. The reason for this in 2014 there are 5-6 Democrats running in Republican States in 2014, so for them to be reelected they cant be obstructionists.

Cooper: Well getting even 54 requires a gain of 6 seats and with both Maine and Massachusetts being states they can lose in they may need to flip 8 seats. What is their strategy to get that many seats

King: Well most people believe they will flip Montana , North Dakota , and South Dakota so even if they lose the two seats they are vulnerable in that would give them 49 seats, which is 5 seats away from 54. Now to get those 5 seats the GOP is running many notable candidates and some of them include

Jeb Bush - who while many people may think would be unelectable due to being the brother of George W Bush, was a very popular governor of Florida. So if he gets the nomination FL Senate seat would definitely be in play.

Bob McDonnell - The Current Governor of Virginia will be running for Jim Webb's seat and with Webb retiring, he would definitely have the advantage against whomever the Democrats run

Jim Talent- The Former Senator from Missouri who barely lost in a Democratic Wave in 2006. This time with conditions much more favorable to Republicans

Tommy Thompson - The Former Governor from Wisconsin, and with this seat being an open seat this seat also could be very much in play

Tom Ridge- The Former Governor from Pennsylvania, is running for the Senate.

Lastly Current Indiana Senator Richard Lugar has decided to retire, and let current Governor Mitch Daniels run for this seat to avoid the unelectable Tea Party Candidate getting the nomination.

If they do this they would get to 54 seats

Anderson Cooper : Well but currently Tom Ridge is losing in almost all the primary polls and Wisconsin wont be easy.


King : Well yes I dont believe that Tom Ridge will get the GOP nomination either and if Thompson loses in November which is very possible due to Wisconsin being a Democratic State they are also running candidates who are notable at the state level in Ohio , New Mexico states which are considered to be swing states . So even if they lose PA, WI, MA , and ME they still can get to 54 seats.

Cooper: It wont be easy though

King : No it definitely wont be easy, but it is possible



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« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2018, 09:05:24 PM »
« Edited: February 23, 2018, 12:45:41 AM by Old School Republican »

Romney's Potential Vice Presidential Picks:


The Favorites:


Rob Portman:



Marco Rubio:




Tim Pawlenty:



John Cornyn:



Jon Kyl


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« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2018, 12:31:20 AM »
« Edited: February 23, 2018, 12:45:59 AM by Old School Republican »

Romney's Potential Vice Presidential Picks Part 2:


The Favorites Part 2:

Paul Ryan:




Bill Frist:



Bill Owens:



John Thune:



Kay Bailey Hutchison:
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« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2018, 12:33:53 AM »

Rubio is his best choice followed closely by Portman
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« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2018, 12:36:37 AM »

Romney's Potential Vice Presidential Picks Part 2:


Wildcards:

Chris Christe:



Nikki Haley:




Susana Martinez:

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« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2018, 01:40:28 AM »

Notable Republican candidates running for the Senate



Anderson Cooper: with many Democratic Senators up for reelection in Republican States, Republican leaders believe that not only can they win back the White House and The Senate but also win a substantial majority in the Senate. Here with us is John King to talk about how that can be possible

John King: People may be asking Republicans need a net gain of 12 seats to get a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate, so how can they get there. While that is true they do need 12 seats to get a filibuster-majority in the Senate, they can get effectively get a filibuster-proof Senate on many of the issues Governor Romney is running on by getting around 54-55 Senate Seats. The reason for this in 2014 there are 5-6 Democrats running in Republican States in 2014, so for them to be reelected they cant be obstructionists.

Cooper: Well getting even 54 requires a gain of 6 seats and with both Maine and Massachusetts being states they can lose in they may need to flip 8 seats. What is their strategy to get that many seats

King: Well most people believe they will flip Montana , North Dakota , and South Dakota so even if they lose the two seats they are vulnerable in that would give them 49 seats, which is 5 seats away from 54. Now to get those 5 seats the GOP is running many notable candidates and some of them include

Jeb Bush - who while many people may think would be unelectable due to being the brother of George W Bush, was a very popular governor of Florida. So if he gets the nomination FL Senate seat would definitely be in play.

Bob McDonnell - The Current Governor of Virginia will be running for Jim Webb's seat and with Webb retiring, he would definitely have the advantage against whomever the Democrats run

Jim Talent- The Former Senator from Missouri who barely lost in a Democratic Wave in 2006. This time with conditions much more favorable to Republicans

Tommy Thompson - The Former Governor from Wisconsin, and with this seat being an open seat this seat also could be very much in play

Tom Ridge- The Former Governor from Pennsylvania, is running for the Senate.

Lastly Current Indiana Senator Richard Lugar has decided to retire, and let current Governor Mitch Daniels run for this seat to avoid the unelectable Tea Party Candidate getting the nomination.

If they do this they would get to 54 seats

Anderson Cooper : Well but currently Tom Ridge is losing in almost all the primary polls and Wisconsin wont be easy.


King : Well yes I dont believe that Tom Ridge will get the GOP nomination either and if Thompson loses in November which is very possible due to Wisconsin being a Democratic State they are also running candidates who are notable at the state level in Ohio , New Mexico states which are considered to be swing states . So even if they lose PA, WI, MA , and ME they still can get to 54 seats.

Cooper: It wont be easy though

King : No it definitely wont be easy, but it is possible





Ridge was also the 1st Secretary of Homeland Security when this Department was established under George W. Bush.
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« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2018, 02:12:53 AM »

Notable Republican candidates running for the Senate



Anderson Cooper: with many Democratic Senators up for reelection in Republican States, Republican leaders believe that not only can they win back the White House and The Senate but also win a substantial majority in the Senate. Here with us is John King to talk about how that can be possible

John King: People may be asking Republicans need a net gain of 12 seats to get a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate, so how can they get there. While that is true they do need 12 seats to get a filibuster-majority in the Senate, they can get effectively get a filibuster-proof Senate on many of the issues Governor Romney is running on by getting around 54-55 Senate Seats. The reason for this in 2014 there are 5-6 Democrats running in Republican States in 2014, so for them to be reelected they cant be obstructionists.

Cooper: Well getting even 54 requires a gain of 6 seats and with both Maine and Massachusetts being states they can lose in they may need to flip 8 seats. What is their strategy to get that many seats

King: Well most people believe they will flip Montana , North Dakota , and South Dakota so even if they lose the two seats they are vulnerable in that would give them 49 seats, which is 5 seats away from 54. Now to get those 5 seats the GOP is running many notable candidates and some of them include

Jeb Bush - who while many people may think would be unelectable due to being the brother of George W Bush, was a very popular governor of Florida. So if he gets the nomination FL Senate seat would definitely be in play.

Bob McDonnell - The Current Governor of Virginia will be running for Jim Webb's seat and with Webb retiring, he would definitely have the advantage against whomever the Democrats run

Jim Talent- The Former Senator from Missouri who barely lost in a Democratic Wave in 2006. This time with conditions much more favorable to Republicans

Tommy Thompson - The Former Governor from Wisconsin, and with this seat being an open seat this seat also could be very much in play

Tom Ridge- The Former Governor from Pennsylvania, is running for the Senate.

Lastly Current Indiana Senator Richard Lugar has decided to retire, and let current Governor Mitch Daniels run for this seat to avoid the unelectable Tea Party Candidate getting the nomination.

If they do this they would get to 54 seats

Anderson Cooper : Well but currently Tom Ridge is losing in almost all the primary polls and Wisconsin wont be easy.


King : Well yes I dont believe that Tom Ridge will get the GOP nomination either and if Thompson loses in November which is very possible due to Wisconsin being a Democratic State they are also running candidates who are notable at the state level in Ohio , New Mexico states which are considered to be swing states . So even if they lose PA, WI, MA , and ME they still can get to 54 seats.

Cooper: It wont be easy though

King : No it definitely wont be easy, but it is possible





Ridge was also the 1st Secretary of Homeland Security when this Department was established under George W. Bush.


That is true but the reason he would have an advantage in an Seante General Election in Pennsyvania was due to being Governor of that state , so that is why they mentioned that because the Republicans believe he would help them take the senate seat because he wasa former governor of that state.(Now whether he gets passed a primary is a different story)
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« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2018, 06:12:16 PM »

President Obama's Approval and other Polls:

Approval Rating:

Approval: 41%
Disapprove: 57%



Presidential Election Poll:



Mitt Romney 50%
Barack Obama 42%



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« Reply #36 on: January 31, 2018, 01:59:33 AM »
« Edited: February 23, 2018, 12:46:32 AM by Old School Republican »

Mitt Romney's Official Vice Presidential Shortlist


Rob Portman:




Strengths: From a Swing State, Could Help Romney do better in the Midwest as whole,  Strong Fiscal Conservative, Policy Wonk , and has lots of experience

Weakness: Was Bush's OPM(even though only for one year)


Marco Rubio:

Strengths: From a Swing State, Could help Romney do better among Hispanic Voters, Young and Charismatic

Weakness: Doesn't have a lot of experience


Susana Martinez:




Strengths: Governor from a Dem-leaning state, could help Romney win New Mexico, and could help Romney among Hispanic Voters.

Weaknesses: Not much Experience, and could be too much of a wild card




John Cornyn:




Strengths: Lots of Legislative Experience, and Foreign Policy

Weaknesses: Doesnt Expand Map in anyway
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« Reply #37 on: January 31, 2018, 03:50:11 PM »

Mitt Romney's Interview on PBS:





Judy Woodruff: Governor Romney, I want to thank you for coming on today

Romney: My pleasure

Woodruff: Governor Romney, as you know most Americans are concerned about not only the state of the economy today but in the future as well. As president how will you address both


Romney: In the Short Run we would pass the tax cuts to greatly increase the amount of disposable income middle class and poor families receive, thus increasing demand. What the tax cuts also will also do is let buisnesses, especially small business to keep more of their money so they can use it to create jobs, increase supply, or increase the amount they invest in the economy.

Woodruff: Some people though worried that the tax cut will make our deficits go up even higher. What would you do to make sure you economic plans decrease and not increase the deficit.

Romney: First along with the tax cuts we will end the offshore tax deferral deduction, end the state and local tax deductions for the very wealthy, and work with Congress to get rid of other deductions which dont really help the middle class

Woodruff: But those deductions wont alone make up for the huge tax cuts

Romney: No they won but that's not my only plan in reducing the deficit. We will also cut spending by 5% across the board for non-defense discretionary spending on day one, and then ask by cabinet secretaries including the secretary of defense to work with Congress to get rid of waste and outdated spending items, and reform spending items which are spent inefficiently.

Woodruff: Last question, you're going to Game 4 of the Eastern Conference Finals between the Celtics and Heat tomorrow . Who do you think wins and wins the series


Romney: I think Celtics win Game 4 tomorrow ,win the series, and win their 18th championship

Woodruff: Thanks for coming on  again

Romney : Any time
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« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2018, 09:31:45 PM »

If by “middle class,” Romney means people making under $80,000 a year, cutting their taxes by 20% would greatly - massively - increase the deficit.

The offshore tax deferral tax deduction will be eliminated, and SALT deductions will be capped at $30,000.


This plan is also less of a tax cut than his OTL plan

Now wait - do you mean by one-fifth? I. E. Cutting taxes from 20% to 16%? Or from 20% to 0%?
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« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2018, 09:41:02 PM »

If by “middle class,” Romney means people making under $80,000 a year, cutting their taxes by 20% would greatly - massively - increase the deficit.

The offshore tax deferral tax deduction will be eliminated, and SALT deductions will be capped at $30,000.


This plan is also less of a tax cut than his OTL plan

Now wait - do you mean by one-fifth? I. E. Cutting taxes from 20% to 16%? Or from 20% to 0%?


From 20% to 16%
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« Reply #40 on: February 01, 2018, 02:04:56 AM »

Mitt Romney selects Rob Portman as his running mate





Romney: It is great to be here in Cincinnati, Ohio and today we will take another step forward in helping restore the promise of this great nation of ours(Applause) by making the most important choice a candidate has to make. That choice is to name your running mate, and potentially the next Vice President of the United States as that is the person who will be your side over the next four-eight years and that person needs to be qualified, trustworthy, and smart. For that reason I have chosen a running mate who has years of legislative experience, knows the budget process more than most politicians, and is the current Senator from Ohio(Applause). It's now my high honor to welcome the next Vice President of the United States Rob Portman(Standing Ovation)


Portman: Thank you, Governor Romney. I am honored to have the opportunity of being your running mate and potentially the next Vice President of America.  Following 4 years of failed policies and leadership: our nation's economy is in the middle of the worst recovery since the Great Depression, unemployment has been above 8% for more than 3 years , we have a deficit which is over a trillion dollars , and our healthcare system remains broken. It is time for a change , and Governor Romney is the person to lead us at this moment and for the future. His experience in both the private sector and the public sector is exactly what our nation needs to make our economy great again. Yes President Obama is a great speaker, and is a very decent person, but that is not enough. We need someone who can deliver on the promises he makes in their campaign, knows economic policy in detail, and is a good executive and that person is Mitt Romney. Thank You and May God Bless America
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« Reply #41 on: February 01, 2018, 05:22:51 AM »

Very good choice for Romney. Rubio would become Lil' Marco and completely collapse in the debate against Biden, Cornyn is way too conservative, Martinez's record as Governor would be scrutinized (plus Romney has that experience already, he needs a congressperson), Ryan scares people away with his Randian politics, Haley is too inexperienced in this stage, Christie looks appealing but we saw how his elitist rudeness (attacking constituents) makes him extremely unlikable, Frist and Thune are too establishment and bring nothing to the table geography-wise, Hutchinson is an interesting choice but not really good geographically, Kyl and Owens are too boring and wouldn't bring much, and Pawlenty isn't a good campaigner.
Portman is a very smart campaigner, almost assures a victory in Ohio and will stand strong in a debate with Biden.
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« Reply #42 on: February 01, 2018, 02:55:58 PM »

Very good choice for Romney. Rubio would become Lil' Marco and completely collapse in the debate against Biden, Cornyn is way too conservative, Martinez's record as Governor would be scrutinized (plus Romney has that experience already, he needs a congressperson), Ryan scares people away with his Randian politics, Haley is too inexperienced in this stage, Christie looks appealing but we saw how his elitist rudeness (attacking constituents) makes him extremely unlikable, Frist and Thune are too establishment and bring nothing to the table geography-wise, Hutchinson is an interesting choice but not really good geographically, Kyl and Owens are too boring and wouldn't bring much, and Pawlenty isn't a good campaigner.
Portman is a very smart campaigner, almost assures a victory in Ohio and will stand strong in a debate with Biden.


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« Reply #43 on: February 01, 2018, 03:15:25 PM »
« Edited: February 01, 2018, 03:29:26 PM by Old School Republican »

Romney Reacts to Obama's signing of DACA

Statement Released By Romney:


While I agree with the President that we have to find a solution on this issue, the executive order he just signed is just a temporary fix, and not a permeant one. The only real way to get a permeant solution on this issue is by having the solution being made into law and this executive order does not do that. This is just another example of this administration failing to work with Congress to deal with all the issues our country faces on a long-term basis, and instead opting for temporary solutions, but at the same time failing to realize that temporary solutions don't actually solve our problems but just pushes them out into the future where the problem might become even worse. It is time for a change in leadership, so we can actually solve our nation's problems instead of just delaying them into the future.


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« Reply #44 on: February 01, 2018, 08:41:27 PM »
« Edited: February 02, 2018, 12:45:36 AM by Old School Republican »

Vice Presidential Nominee Rob Portman's Interview on Meet the Press:



Gregory: I want to thank our guest Senator Rob Portman for coming on

Portman : Anytime

Gregory: First things first, if Governor Romney is elected President, what role would you play in a Romney Administration

Portman: I would be willing to take any role, a President Romney would give me.  Also while we have talked about a possible role I would play nothing has been finalized yet

Gregory: So what are the roles you discussed so far

Portman: Well some roles we have discusses for me so far, are either me getting involved in the process of proposing a budget,  working with Congress to get one passed.

Gregory: On the issue of the budget, Governor Romney has said he would like the heads of each department to work with Congress to get rid of the waste in each of the departments and reform inefficient spending items. Would you work on that with the role you just talked about

Portman : Of course I would because cutting wasteful spending in each of the departments, and reforming inefficient spending items is the only we get on the path to a balanced budget .

Gregory: What are some other roles you would play

Portman : Well one other what was discussed , was me getting involved in the process of negotiating free trade deals

Gregory: Governor Romney on that issue claimed he wants to expand free trade but also crack down a little bit. Can you explain that

Portman : Well what Governor Romney means is that we do want to expand trade relations to Latin America, and many other countries but he also wants to make sure no country violates these agreements for their own advantage.


Gregory: Ok thanks for coming on

Portman : Anytime
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« Reply #45 on: February 02, 2018, 01:05:44 AM »
« Edited: February 23, 2018, 12:48:36 AM by Old School Republican »

CNN National Polls:


President Obama's Approval:


Approve: 42%
Disapprove: 57%


2012 National Election Poll

Mitt Romney/Rob Portman 52.7%
Barack Obama/Joe Biden 43.2%


Issue by Issue Polls:


Which candidate  do you trust more on the Economy:

Mitt Romney/Rob Portman: 60%
Barack Obama/Joe Biden: 39%


Which candidate do you Trust More on Foreign Policy:

Barack Obama/Joe Biden 55%
Mitt Romney/Rob Portman 44%


Which candidate do you trust to deal with other Domestic Issues:

Mitt Romney/Rob Portman 53%
Barack Obama/Joe Biden 46%



Wolf Blitzer: These look like pretty bad numbers for the President


John King: Sure they do and the most interesting thing was the issue by issue poll which in many ways mirrored the polls in 1992. Many people have been wondering whether this election would be 1980 or 2004 and in the end, it might be 1992. Just like 1992 the only issue where the incumbent president has going for them is foreign policy while economic and domestic policy is going dramatically against the incumbent.


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« Reply #46 on: February 03, 2018, 03:53:50 AM »

Romney's Trip aborad doesnt go as well as planned:






CNN analyst: Romney trip abroad didn't go as well as he would have liked it too, with Gaffes like the one about the Olympics and some other gaffes. Well and as we can see from our New National Polls this trip has definitely hurt the Romney campaign, reducing his lead from 9 and a half points to around6%


Polls:

Mitt Romney/Rob Portman 50%
Barack Obama/Joe Biden 44%


John King: While those numbers still look good for Governor Romney, they also give the Obama Camp some hope, and should concern the Romney camp.  The reason for this is if you remember in our issue by issue poll 3 weeks ago, the only issue Romney was losing on was foreign policy and he lost it by 11. On the other hand, he was winning Economic Policy by 21 points which meant he easily made up for his deficit in the foreign policy area, and with a lead in Domestic Policy, he was heading for a landslide win.

Now when you look at the issue by issue polls: Romney still has a 20 point lead when it comes to the issue of the Economy, but Obama has a 20 point lead on the issue on foreign policy, which wipes out Romney's advantage on economic issues. Now this makes the tiebreaker Issue other Domestic Policy, where Romney still has a 6 and a half point lead, but that lead can be made up by Obama if he can manage to successfully replay Truman 1948 and put some of the blame on many of these issues not being resolved on Congress. Now whether or not he can do that is still yet to be determined .
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« Reply #47 on: February 03, 2018, 03:57:57 AM »

Funny that Obama leads in foreign policy, that's the only issue in which, for me, Romney is far preferable Tongue
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« Reply #48 on: February 03, 2018, 04:20:00 AM »
« Edited: February 03, 2018, 04:30:19 AM by Old School Republican »

Funny that Obama leads in foreign policy, that's the only issue in which, for me, Romney is far preferable Tongue

Its kinda like how the debates went OTL


Romney easily wins the Economic Debate
Obama easily wins the Foreign Policy Debate


While the 2nd one which is the closer out of two was the debate where other domestic issues came up more , Obama won but not easily(kinda like how the election went ).


The reason for that was simple, in 2012 it seemed like Obama had a pretty bad economic record(8+ unemployment, very slow economic growth, trillion dollar deficits, high gas prices) to defend while that issue was Romney's strength. On the other hand it seemed like Obama had a pretty good foreign policy record (Bin-Laden was killed on his watch, Got the US out of Iraq,  Libya seemed pretty successful then, and Syria didnt spiral out of control then) , while it was Romney's Weakness and the GOP weakness(Due to how unpopular Iraq was).

This made other domestic issues the tie-breaker issue, and since Obama got Obamacare passed,the GOP was gung ho on trying to repeal it and the long primary forced Romney to go pretty far right on the issue and made healthcare an issue in that election(which benefited Obama). Along with Immigration and some other issues where the long primary made Romney look like a flip-flopper when he tried to moderate on the issues in the general is what gave Obama the win.






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« Reply #49 on: February 04, 2018, 02:30:58 AM »
« Edited: February 04, 2018, 05:04:15 AM by Old School Republican »

2012 RNC: Mitt Romney and Rob Portman's Acceptance Speech:

Excerpts from Rob Portman's Acceptance Speech:



Portman : Thank You Thank You , it has been an honor for me to be nominated as this party's Vice Presidential Nominee, and I accept your nomination(Applause). Today we gather here in a time where our country faces many crises and challenges and many people in the country are getting pessimistic about the future. The reason for that is for 4 years, President Obama and the Democrats have governed on the belief that if the Government spends more money it can fix problems, and prioritized implementing temporary solutions instead of implementing long-term ones (Boos), and we can see what those policies have resulted in. They have resulted in : presiding over the slowest economic recovery  since the Great Depression, having unemployment be higher than 8% for more than the last 3 years, trillion dollar deficts , and the cost of healthcare still remaining very high. It is time for a change and that is why we must elect Governor Mitt Romney as President of the United States(Standing Applause) .

He has the experience both in the private sector and the public sector in creating jobs, and bringing about change(Applause). He understands that success comes from hard work, actually changing things that don't work, being a bold leader, and working with people who may have differing views. That is why he was successful in his Business career and created many jobs, helped turn the Olympics Around, and be a successful Governor(Applause). While people can argue that he may not be as good of a speaker as President Obama, he definitely is a better leader and that is what we need as our next President(Applause). It is time for us to actually do things, instead of just speak about things(Applause).

This is why I am so excited of the opportunity to work with Governor Romney because I know that he is committed to fixing the long-term problems our economy faces. We both believe that we must fundamentally change our nation's fiscal policies as adding up the amount of debt we have for so many years is unstainable. We will work with each cabinet secretary, the departments they head, and the committees in Congress directly related to that department to cut waste from our budget, and reform outdated and inefficient spending programs(Applause). At the same time we plan to reform our tax code so small business no longer need to pay taxes at the income level , but pay it at the corporate level to help our economy grow, while cutting taxes significantly for the middle class, because at the end of the day its those types of Buisnesses which grow our economy ,
 and those type of consumers that increase demand in our economy.(Applause)Thank You and May God Bless America

Excerpts from Romney's Acceptance Speech:



Romney: Mr Chairman, delegates, and Republican Primary Voters I accept your nomination for President of the United States(Applause) . 4 years ago most Americans felt hopeful and optimistic about the possibilities of a new President who was able to inspire so many Americans with the message of Hope and Change. That optimistic is uniquely American and that optimism is thanks to all the freedoms our nation has. Those freedoms include Freedom Of Speech, Freedom of Religion, Right to your Own Privacy, and also the Freedom to Build your very own Business(Applause). This is why our nation is so great and will continue to be great in the future(Applause). This gives our people a sense of optimism and is the reason so many people from all around the world wants to immigrate here.

Unfortunately, over the last 4 years, that sense of optimism has dwindled, and people are beginning to be more pessimistic. The reason for that is the President has not kept the promises he made on the campaign trail 4 years ago. Instead, we have had an administration who has presided over the worst economic recovery in the post WW2 era , more than 3 years of unemployment being over 8 percent, the deficit being over a trillion dollars every year since the President took office, badly thought up regulations that keep some banks designated as too big to fail while causing community and local banks to go out of business , healthcare costs remain high(Boos). The reason for this is simple the current administration believes the solution to all our problems is too spend our way out of them .

In all my experience in business, I can tell you dont solve long-term problems by just spending more money on the problem, as all that does is punt the problem to a later date and reduce the amount of profits you make or cause you to even lose more money. The same thing has happened in government, as instead of fixing the real problems in our economy, and healthcare system they decided to just spend more money on those areas, and all that did was make our deficit significantly larger while not making our economy or healthcare system any better. Now they blame the problems on taxes being too low(Laughter).


All I can tell you thats nothing close to the close. Our economy grows when small businesses grow, people have more money to spend thus increasing demand, and Corporations have more money to spend on supply thus decreasing prices without lowering demand(Applause). That is exactly what I plan to do as President because thats the way our economy can grow . It worked under President Ronald Reagan in the 1980s and it will work again in the 2010s(Applause). Another reason our economy has suffered is due to the excessive and ill-conceived regulations that make it hard for small buisnesses to grow , and while yes we need regulations, we also need smart ones(Applause)and not unnecessary and excessive ones(Applause). That's why when I am President I will ask each regulatory agency to present an cost-benefit anaylsis with each new regulation they propose so we can find out if the costs of the regulation are worst the cost or not(Applause). My fellow Americans, it is time for a change and a time where we come together to solve our problems on a long-term basis as that is the way we can restore the great American Optism. Thank You and May God Bless America

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