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« on: September 12, 2005, 09:55:33 AM »

No.

4 reasons:

-It's not really part of Europe
-Human rights record in Kurdistan
-Censorship and civil liberties. They just recentely arrested a journalist for writing about the Armenian genocide
-Northern Cyprus
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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2005, 10:33:34 AM »

No. they have huge unemployment. Plus terrorists will use Turkey to get into European Countries through their eu passport.
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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2005, 10:36:37 AM »

I'd lean no, because their weak economy would pull the stability of the Euro even further down.

I partially agree with the 'they're not really part of Europe' argument, except that a small portion of it is, and that argument would also rule out Russia from ever joining.
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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2005, 10:38:47 AM »

The majority of Russia's population is in Europe though. Although I bet most in Europe don't want them joining either.
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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2005, 12:43:34 PM »

I'd be willing to tlet them use it if they let us out.
fair trade.
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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2005, 10:37:09 AM »

No but if they fix some things (Kurds and Northern Cyprus) I'd be fine with letting them in.
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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2005, 10:46:47 AM »


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That depends entirely on what you mean by "Europe"; the borders of Europe have always been more than just a little flexible. The Urals line isn't the only definition... besides... Istanbul and the coast of Asia Minor have been crucial to the development of European history and civilization (and not just pre-1453 either).

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These are more serious concerns and are why membership shouldn't be granted yet... having said that, things are a hell of a lot better than they were until suprisingly recently.
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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2005, 11:44:03 AM »

Yes -at the very least the prospect of membership should not be denied them.  It is precisely because they hope to eventually join the European Union that they made the reforms that they have.   
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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2005, 12:23:36 PM »

Yes - not being a part of Europe should not be a qualifier. I think Canada should join, for instance.
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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2005, 12:25:27 PM »

Yes - not being a part of Europe should not be a qualifier. I think Canada should join, for instance.

Well, since you're not a EU citizen you have no say, thank goodness.
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« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2005, 12:52:53 PM »

Many in my party do, but I don't. Turkey is not primarily a European country

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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2005, 01:00:39 PM »

Anyways, i'd be more than willing to trade Portugal's place with them.
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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2005, 04:21:44 PM »


It is very hard to define Europe - do we base it solely on geographic proximity? If so then Morocco is more European than many of the member states of the EU.

-Human rights record in Kurdistan
-Censorship and civil liberties. They just recentely arrested a journalist for writing about the Armenian genocide
-Northern Cyprus

They are required to reform on human rights and civil liberties in order to meet the requirements of accession - having potential EU membership is a better way to get Turkey to reform than to totally close the door - ultimately I think it should if it meets the requirements for accession.
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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2005, 05:03:03 PM »

I couldn't care less. The EU is crippling the independence and free will of many countries and is certainly not a desirable organization to which one would belong.
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2005, 04:16:27 AM »

It is very hard to define Europe - do we base it solely on geographic proximity? If so then Morocco is more European than many of the member states of the EU.

Morocco's application to join was rejected in 1987 by the Commission because it's not considered part of Europe.
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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2005, 08:29:42 AM »


It is very hard to define Europe - do we base it solely on geographic proximity? If so then Morocco is more European than many of the member states of the EU.

Geographic proximity to what? Brussels?
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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2005, 11:59:54 AM »

Turkey's OK as it is a rather cheap holiday destination. I've never been like won't go out of principle because of the 1974 invasion of Cyprus

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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2005, 12:00:51 PM »

Turkey in the EU might have a positive affect on some Muslims.
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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2005, 12:29:37 PM »

Turkey's OK as it is a rather cheap holiday destination. I've never been like won't go out of principle because of the 1974 invasion of Cyprus

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I actually think Turkey was in the right then, considering their main enemy was Greece, whose government at the time was far far worse, but they certainly haven't been behaving well since then.
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