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« on: November 22, 2005, 09:12:22 PM »

Can you name some Presidential tickets in which the Presidential candidate and the Vice Presidential candidate, on the same ticket, did not get along  well, or possibly didn't like each other?   

Who are they, and in what Presidential election year did they run?

Do you know of any specific problems this ticket may have had with one another?
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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2005, 09:42:38 PM »

Lincoln and Johnson in 1864 is the pretty obvious answer.  They were in different parties and probably agreed on little.

I'd also say JFK and LBJ in 1960.  It ended in LBJ murdering JFK, 42 years ago today, so I can't see them as the best of friends.
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2005, 10:37:33 PM »

Roosevelt and Fairbanks couldn't stand each other. TR felt that Fairbanks was some ice cold businessman from the Hoosier State, where Fairbanks viewed TR as some crazy cowboy from North Dakota.
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2005, 10:47:44 PM »

Lincoln and Johnson in 1864 is the pretty obvious answer.  They were in different parties and probably agreed on little.

I'd also say JFK and LBJ in 1960.  It ended in LBJ murdering JFK, 42 years ago today, so I can't see them as the best of friends.

Whoa!  That's a pretty strong accusation about LBJ murdering JFK.

This being the 42nd anniversary to the day though of the JFK assassination is somewhat strange, however, I must say.  I wasn't thinking of that, though, when I posted this question.
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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2005, 11:42:11 PM »

Reagan and Bush were not big fans of one another, at first, but they grew to get along quite well.
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2005, 12:16:13 AM »

Lincoln-Hamlin couldn't have been great... [Hamlin went back to Maine...]

Any of the Democrats who were forced to split the ticket between North and South...

Truman-Barkley I know didn't get along well.
FDR-Garner couldn't have worked together that well.
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2005, 05:47:08 AM »

John Tyler has some similarities to Andrew Johnson. Both were arguably 19th century Democrats who became VP through some other party, and then President when the President died.
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2005, 07:38:19 AM »

FDR-Garner couldn't have worked together that well.
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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2005, 04:46:35 PM »

Adams and Jefferson were still bitter rivals when they were elected together in 1796, although I'm not sure if that counts since they were candidates from different tickets who just happened to be thrown together by the electoral college.

I also seem to recall that Jackson and Calhoun had their differences.
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2005, 10:18:04 PM »

Eisenhower reached the end of his tether with Nixon on several occasions, even before they were first elected in 1952.
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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2005, 11:27:34 PM »

Eisenhower reached the end of his tether with Nixon on several occasions, even before they were first elected in 1952.

That makes sense. It was Prescott Bush (George HW Bush's father) who choose Nixon to be Ike's running mate, not Ike.
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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2005, 10:36:28 AM »

Eisenhower reached the end of his tether with Nixon on several occasions, even before they were first elected in 1952.

That makes sense. It was Prescott Bush (George HW Bush's father) who choose Nixon to be Ike's running mate, not Ike.

Indeed, that would help explain it.  Eisenhower considered Nixon something of a liability right from the start.  Especially after the slush fund 'scandal' that hit Nixon and threatened their campaign.

Then eight years later...

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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2005, 10:46:55 AM »

"Jackson and Calhoun had their differences"? LOL. Nice understatement there. It's not for nothing that Calhoun resigned...
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« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2005, 12:14:54 PM »

"Jackson and Calhoun had their differences"? LOL. Nice understatement there. It's not for nothing that Calhoun resigned...

The story that Calhoun resigned due to his animosity with Jackson is a myth. He resigned just 66 days beofre the end of his term and then it was to fill a senate vacancy.
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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2005, 06:32:02 PM »

Can you name some Presidential tickets in which the Presidential candidate and the Vice Presidential candidate, on the same ticket, did not get along  well, or possibly didn't like each other?   
Jefferson and Burr 1800
Adams and Calhoun 1824
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« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2005, 06:33:03 PM »

Can you name some Presidential tickets in which the Presidential candidate and the Vice Presidential candidate, on the same ticket, did not get along  well, or possibly didn't like each other?   
Jefferson and Burr 1800
Adams and Calhoun 1824

Those two never chose to be together, so you can't really put them on the level of JFK-LBJ and others.
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« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2005, 06:37:06 PM »

Can you name some Presidential tickets in which the Presidential candidate and the Vice Presidential candidate, on the same ticket, did not get along  well, or possibly didn't like each other?   
Jefferson and Burr 1800
Adams and Calhoun 1824
Those two never chose to be together, so you can't really put them on the level of JFK-LBJ and others.
Jefferson and Burr ran on the same ticket.  That's why they tied.  Any other VPs shoot a cabinet secretary?


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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2005, 02:41:04 PM »

A frequent Millard Fillmore quote, from when he served as VP under Zachary Taylor, or at least a paraphrase, "I don't hold anything against you personally, but if the Senate deadlocks on the so-and-so bill (It happened several times on bills that Taylor supported) I will vote against it. 

Coolidge and Dawes didn't agree on much. 
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