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« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2018, 07:26:27 PM »

I'm very skeptical of using historical performance to rate a poll's accuracy. The only exception I'll make is for Selzer. They seem to nail the results in Iowa.
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« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2018, 08:20:45 PM »

By Election day 2018, the economy will be in the tank and several indictments will be issued by Mueller.... absolutely absurd to write this race off now considering how much of a boring stiff Hawley is (who btw was begging for Bannons endorsement months ago lol)
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« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2018, 08:26:42 PM »

This proves my Likely R rating for this race, unfortunately their is no realistic scenario where Mcckaskill pulls it out.

A 4 point lead by a Republican leaning pollster 10 months before the election is enough to convince you, huh?
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« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2018, 08:29:44 PM »

This proves my Likely R rating for this race, unfortunately their is no realistic scenario where Mcckaskill pulls it out.

Once again we see Lear's stunning IQ.

Anyway, it's awful news for Hawley when he can't even crack 50% in a crap Republican poll, and it just reinforces my theory that he's a terrible candidate. Akin was doing miles better than this before his career-ending gaffe.
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« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2018, 10:34:36 PM »

It is impossible to look at Castros analysis + this poll + the national environment and not conclude that this shows McCaskill as a clear favorite.

This poll performed well in the 2016 Senate Race ( https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=250717.0) and any poll with a positive Trump approval is bad for McCaskill. She's not doomed, but taking a poll showing her trailing as further justification for your Safe D rating  (which should mean she'll win even if everything that could possibly go wrong does) makes little sense.

Dude, no one here thinks this is safe D LOL. Tilt R, still winnable for McCaskill though.
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« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2018, 10:39:01 PM »

Sh!t, if only McCaskill was a little less left, and not such a champion for planned parenthood, she would probably be leading Hawley anywhere from 2-5 points right now. Hawley 4+ sounds about right at this time.

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« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2018, 10:43:22 PM »

It is impossible to look at Castros analysis + this poll + the national environment and not conclude that this shows McCaskill as a clear favorite.

This poll performed well in the 2016 Senate Race ( https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=250717.0) and any poll with a positive Trump approval is bad for McCaskill. She's not doomed, but taking a poll showing her trailing as further justification for your Safe D rating  (which should mean she'll win even if everything that could possibly go wrong does) makes little sense.

Dude, no one here thinks this is safe D LOL. Tilt R, still winnable for McCaskill though.

I'd say Tilt D.
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« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2018, 10:46:21 PM »

It is impossible to look at Castros analysis + this poll + the national environment and not conclude that this shows McCaskill as a clear favorite.

This poll performed well in the 2016 Senate Race ( https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=250717.0) and any poll with a positive Trump approval is bad for McCaskill. She's not doomed, but taking a poll showing her trailing as further justification for your Safe D rating  (which should mean she'll win even if everything that could possibly go wrong does) makes little sense.

Dude, no one here thinks this is safe D LOL. Tilt R, still winnable for McCaskill though.

I'd say Tilt D.

Fair enough.
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« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2018, 11:32:18 PM »

It is impossible to look at Castros analysis + this poll + the national environment and not conclude that this shows McCaskill as a clear favorite.

This poll performed well in the 2016 Senate Race ( https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=250717.0) and any poll with a positive Trump approval is bad for McCaskill. She's not doomed, but taking a poll showing her trailing as further justification for your Safe D rating  (which should mean she'll win even if everything that could possibly go wrong does) makes little sense.

Dude, no one here thinks this is safe D LOL. Tilt R, still winnable for McCaskill though.

Look at the prediction link in Solid's sig
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« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2018, 12:41:53 AM »

Anyway, I think this race is Tossup/Tilt R, but just like Blunt, McCaskill could be saved by the national environment in the end. There are certain parallels between MO-SEN 2016 and this race (overhyped “rising star” facing off against a weak incumbent).

I totally agree. On one hand the state's partisan lean should give it to Hawley but on the other hand McCaskill is taking this contest seriously. You should see some of her campaign emails .. they sound like they are expecting to lose but can win if they work hard.

McCaskill is more likely to win than Heller. Heller is the most vulnerable incumbent of 2018.
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« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2018, 12:01:23 PM »

Still a tossup. But Im glad to see we're actually getting Senate polling now
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« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2018, 01:08:12 PM »

I could see McCaskill winning if Trump's approvals continue to be this bad. However, I still believe she's the underdog.

Now, if she could find herself another Todd Akin...
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« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2018, 01:25:30 PM »

I could see McCaskill winning if Trump's approvals continue to be this bad. However, I still believe she's the underdog.

Now, if she could find herself another Todd Akin...

She should do a reverse-Akin and support Hawley in the primary and make him seem like "McCaskill's Hand-Picked Opponent" or something and then have someone like Peterson win the primary.
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« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2018, 01:29:22 PM »

I could see McCaskill winning if Trump's approvals continue to be this bad. However, I still believe she's the underdog.

Now, if she could find herself another Todd Akin...

She should do a reverse-Akin and support Hawley in the primary and make him seem like "McCaskill's Hand-Picked Opponent" or something and then have someone like Peterson win the primary.

Peterson's not really an Akin though.

(But he may be slightly weaker than Hawley)
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« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2018, 01:40:43 PM »

It is impossible to look at Castros analysis + this poll + the national environment and not conclude that this shows McCaskill as a clear favorite.

This poll performed well in the 2016 Senate Race ( https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=250717.0) and any poll with a positive Trump approval is bad for McCaskill. She's not doomed, but taking a poll showing her trailing as further justification for your Safe D rating  (which should mean she'll win even if everything that could possibly go wrong does) makes little sense.

Dude, no one here thinks this is safe D LOL. Tilt R, still winnable for McCaskill though.

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« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2018, 04:16:36 PM »

Courtland Sykes would be another Todd Akin.
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« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2018, 05:55:51 PM »

Kander/Koster both got around 46% in '16 and thats probably the Dem ceiling these days in MO. I'd say Hawley wins 53-46.
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« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2018, 06:11:51 PM »

My prediction is that Josh Hawley wins 57-42, I don't think any Democrats can come within single-digits of winning Missouri due to partisan polarization.
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« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2018, 06:14:04 PM »

My prediction is that Josh Hawley wins 57-42, I don't think any Democrats can come within single-digits of winning Missouri due to partisan polarization.

Okay, this is ridiculous. Now I know why LimoLiberal stopped being a republican shill, he just got you to do it instead.
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« Reply #44 on: January 09, 2018, 06:19:36 PM »

My prediction is that Josh Hawley wins 57-42, I don't think any Democrats can come within single-digits of winning Missouri due to partisan polarization.

How did Jason Kander do it?
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« Reply #45 on: January 09, 2018, 09:11:10 PM »

My prediction is that Josh Hawley wins 57-42, I don't think any Democrats can come within single-digits of winning Missouri due to partisan polarization.

Jason Kander tho
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« Reply #46 on: January 10, 2018, 12:28:14 AM »

My prediction is that Josh Hawley wins 57-42, I don't think any Democrats can come within single-digits of winning Missouri due to partisan polarization.

I predict that you have a brain tumor.
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« Reply #47 on: January 10, 2018, 12:43:48 PM »

Kander/Koster both got around 46% in '16 and thats probably the Dem ceiling these days in MO. I'd say Hawley wins 53-46.

Had the top of the ticket not completely collapsed, Kander probably would've won.
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« Reply #48 on: January 11, 2018, 01:09:03 AM »

So a Republican pollster shows her down by 4, 10 months out? Clearly Likely/Safe R.

I won't be shocked if McCaskill loses, but I think it's fair to call this race a Toss-Up, at this point. If Hawley ends up being a weaker candidate than expected, it's not hard to see how he blows it.
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« Reply #49 on: January 11, 2018, 01:22:46 AM »

My prediction is that Josh Hawley wins 57-42, I don't think any Democrats can come within single-digits of winning Missouri due to partisan polarization.

Lol wut?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Missouri,_2016 (against an incumbent Republican)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_gubernatorial_election,_2016
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