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« Reply #2325 on: March 14, 2018, 12:26:40 AM »

Any news on those Greene and Washington absentees yet?
Greene is not botherimg announcing anything tonight but Washington will drop around 2

OK, expect the NYT checkmark to go up right afterwards.
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« Reply #2326 on: March 14, 2018, 12:37:24 AM »

Is Westmoreland ansentee still out?
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« Reply #2327 on: March 14, 2018, 12:38:29 AM »

Nope they came with the last 2 precincts
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« Reply #2328 on: March 14, 2018, 12:46:53 AM »

We should be getting Washington in less than 15 minutes
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« Reply #2329 on: March 14, 2018, 12:53:18 AM »

Are we ever getting those absentee results from Washington County??
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« Reply #2330 on: March 14, 2018, 12:55:38 AM »

It took about 2 hours, but CNN has finally reported that Stephen Hawking has passed away.
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« Reply #2331 on: March 14, 2018, 12:59:12 AM »
« Edited: March 14, 2018, 01:02:25 AM by Hindsight is 2020 »

Now the word is Washington results will come in around anywhere from 2:15 to 3
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« Reply #2332 on: March 14, 2018, 01:01:40 AM »

Not the word is Washington results will come in around anywhere from 2:15 to 3

Of course lol
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« Reply #2333 on: March 14, 2018, 01:02:20 AM »


Has anyone yet thought that the GOP might not be so forgiving of Saccone's giant fumble of a perfectly winnable race in which he held almost all advantages just a few months ago? Then he fumbled it with the fault being nearly all his own. I don't know guys, I think he could very well lose the nomination.
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« Reply #2334 on: March 14, 2018, 01:05:15 AM »

Could Saccone win a House primary or not?
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« Reply #2335 on: March 14, 2018, 01:05:16 AM »

Now the word is Washington results will come in around anywhere from 2:15 to 3

I'll go to sleep. If Lamb only lost Westmoreland absentees by 3%, he probably won them in Washington.
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« Reply #2336 on: March 14, 2018, 01:07:57 AM »

Could Saccone win a House primary or not?

I'm thinking exactly that too, I don't know, but if the GOP put up literally anyone even a step up from him, I don't think we will be seeing him around.
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« Reply #2337 on: March 14, 2018, 01:08:19 AM »

I'm sitting around waiting for Washco.
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« Reply #2338 on: March 14, 2018, 01:25:01 AM »


Has anyone yet thought that the GOP might not be so forgiving of Saccone's giant fumble of a perfectly winnable race in which he held almost all advantages just a few months ago? Then he fumbled it with the fault being nearly all his own. I don't know guys, I think he could very well lose the nomination.

Saccone’s weaknesses are overstated. Conor Lamb won because of Trump. Period. Yeah, Lamb was a superior candidate, but Saccone wasn’t exactly a Roy Moore. In fact I would argue he was better than Karen Handel in terms of his perceived weaknesses. It was just that Ossoff was a lousy candidate who ran on sheer #RESIST energy

And still managed to lose by only 3.5 percent. It baffles me why some think GA 6 suddenly became a safe R seat after Ossoff's loss. If Ossoff lost a seat formerly held by Gingrich and won by Price by well over 20% margins by that little with all his aforementioned flaws, it's quite clearly no longer an even remotely safe Republican seat anymore.
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« Reply #2339 on: March 14, 2018, 01:27:54 AM »

Via CNN:

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« Reply #2340 on: March 14, 2018, 01:28:53 AM »

Congratulations to Conor Lamb, I am very pleased to see Democrats finally win a Special House Election, and I am very happy to be so wrong in my prediction.
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« Reply #2341 on: March 14, 2018, 01:39:53 AM »

Congratulations to Conor Lamb, I am very pleased to see Democrats finally win a Special House Election, and I am very happy to be so wrong in my prediction.

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« Reply #2342 on: March 14, 2018, 01:51:22 AM »

Congratulations to Conor Lamb, I am very pleased to see Democrats finally win a Special House Election, and I am very happy to be so wrong in my prediction.

On behalf of the rest of the Forum other than Limo Liberal, may I respond with a hearty and heartfelt:

"Blow me, troll".
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« Reply #2343 on: March 14, 2018, 01:59:50 AM »

Yeah, Washco keeps moving up their release times, I'm gonna go to bed and see what happens.
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« Reply #2344 on: March 14, 2018, 02:42:43 AM »


NoVa Green checking in....

Just got off work a few hours ago from my late Factory Line shift, so been catching up for the past few hours...

Would love to see a similar map from the '08 Pres election, and swings and trends maps as well....

OG on the Forum here, but I remember how many Dem Primary Obama Supporters in '08 accused Pennsylvania White Dems of being racists because they voted hard HRC in the Primary, even though Obama got record PA Pres numbers in the GE for any Pres Dem since '64....

Maps can change and Maps can go, but the reality of this election, but even without doing a more extensive analysis it appears that the Union Ground Game of the UMWA/USW and various other Union members phone banking going door to door likely created the critical mass to push Lamb over the top....

Looks likes Lamb victory was both a mix of traditionally 'Pub suburbs of South Pittsburgh starting to shift Democratic, combined with some of our retired Senior Retired Union Brothers and Sisters realizing that Trump's "America First" policy really means "America Last" and the new boss is just as bad as the old boss...

Hope to take some time this weekend to look at turnout models by Rep/Dem precincts, some nice graphs all that cool crap, since reality is that as we all start to look towards the Tea Leaves of the '18 GE, once we start to slice and dice precinct results it will give us maybe a better data point at the Spear Tip of the 2016 Trump Electoral College Win....

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« Reply #2345 on: March 14, 2018, 03:10:21 AM »

Yeah, Washco keeps moving up their release times, I'm gonna go to bed and see what happens.

Any idea why the delays?
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« Reply #2346 on: March 14, 2018, 03:15:18 AM »

If only Democrats were as pro-labor as Conor Lamb, they'd easily win back Obama voters in the WWC. Lamb isn't a progressive but much like Joe Biden is a good match for the WWC anyway. 

They are. The difference is they don't focus their campaigns on unions and union-friendly economic issues.

As you well know Badger, Union Employees aren't a huge chunk of the workforce in most States our Great Nation, especially since Ronald Reagan destroyed Pattern Bargaining in the early '80s....

American Workers have been screwed for decades under Democratic and Republican Presidential Administrations alike that led to the rise of Ross Perot as an independent in '92 (Which in someways appears like an early Trump template).

Still regardless of the Union reference, I still agree with your fundamental point bolded above: "If only Dems were as Pro Labor as Conor Lamb, they'd easily win back Obama voters in the WWC"....

Peter Defazio (OR-CD-04) has done extremely well in my district in "Downstate Oregon" in areas that have been swing hard Republican over the past 20 years, where Trump completely dominated in 2016.....

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« Reply #2347 on: March 14, 2018, 04:26:16 AM »

Per MSNBC/NBC News, Conor Lamb has been declared the apparent winner.

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« Reply #2348 on: March 14, 2018, 04:37:13 AM »

Well, yes, totals changed, which means Washington County reported absentee.

Lamb leads by 677 votes, which is more than the number of votes left to count.
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« Reply #2349 on: March 14, 2018, 04:53:18 AM »

Lamb's lead expanded by 62 after the WashCo absentee vote dump.
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