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« Reply #250 on: January 29, 2018, 11:32:57 PM »

Saccone's got to be the worst candidate I've ever seen.
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« Reply #251 on: January 29, 2018, 11:39:16 PM »

It takes a special level of incompetence to blow a seat like PA-18.
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« Reply #252 on: January 29, 2018, 11:45:11 PM »

It takes a special level of incompetence to blow a seat like PA-18.
Saccone: Challenge accepted!
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« Reply #253 on: January 30, 2018, 08:20:29 AM »

BTW, if Lamb manages to win this thing, he becomes the instant favorite to challenge Toomey in 2022, especially if Dump gets re-elected.

Thoughts on that theory?


He's from the wrong part of the state.
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« Reply #254 on: January 30, 2018, 09:48:24 AM »

BTW, if Lamb manages to win this thing, he becomes the instant favorite to challenge Toomey in 2022, especially if Dump gets re-elected.

Thoughts on that theory?


No way he gets past Josh Shapiro.

Or Lt. Governor John Fetterman. Wink

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Shapiro will most likely run to replace Wolf, IMO
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« Reply #255 on: January 30, 2018, 02:33:25 PM »

Democrats will pick this seat up.
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« Reply #256 on: January 30, 2018, 02:40:07 PM »


From your lips to God's ears.
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« Reply #257 on: January 30, 2018, 02:42:48 PM »

Saccone's got to be the worst candidate I've ever seen.

If anyone is looking for Martha Coakley analogies, look no further. We'll see what the result is, but Saccone is surely much more similar to Coakley's generally haplessness than Roy Moore was.
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« Reply #258 on: January 30, 2018, 04:25:41 PM »

Couldn't say it better myself Wink On a serious note turnout is everything here. If Democrats can mobilize their voters like they did in Alabama they will win.
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« Reply #259 on: January 30, 2018, 05:33:42 PM »

BTW, if Lamb manages to win this thing, he becomes the instant favorite to challenge Toomey in 2022, especially if Dump gets re-elected.

Thoughts on that theory?


He's from the wrong part of the state.

What? If anything he is from the RIGHT part of the state to take down Toomey.
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« Reply #260 on: January 31, 2018, 06:54:53 PM »

Was Saccone nominated in an open or closed primary?

He was nominated by party officials, which ought to tell you something about the PAGOP.

It is a convention of delegates elected or appointed by the GOP  county committees of the counties in the district.  I think it is one delegate per 1000 votes cast in the last presidential election. 
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« Reply #261 on: January 31, 2018, 07:33:36 PM »

BTW, if Lamb manages to win this thing, he becomes the instant favorite to challenge Toomey in 2022, especially if Dump gets re-elected.

Thoughts on that theory?


He's from the wrong part of the state.

What? If anything he is from the RIGHT part of the state to take down Toomey.
Not sure, but I think Mr. Phips is probably referring to a Dem primary?
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« Reply #262 on: February 01, 2018, 05:15:30 PM »

Just heard a Saccone ad on the radio. My god, it was awful. They are really trying to peddle this pathetic "Nancy and her lamb" smear. It then went onto some hardcore heavy-metal background music and bragged about how Saccone tortured terrorists and that's why he should be a congressman. He deserves to lose this race in a landslide.
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« Reply #263 on: February 01, 2018, 06:07:01 PM »

Just heard a Saccone ad on the radio. My god, it was awful. They are really trying to peddle this pathetic "Nancy and her lamb" smear. It then went onto some hardcore heavy-metal background music and bragged about how Saccone tortured terrorists and that's why he should be a congressman. He deserves to lose this race in a landslide.

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« Reply #264 on: February 01, 2018, 06:09:21 PM »

BTW, if Lamb manages to win this thing, he becomes the instant favorite to challenge Toomey in 2022, especially if Dump gets re-elected.

Thoughts on that theory?


He's from the wrong part of the state.

What? If anything he is from the RIGHT part of the state to take down Toomey.

I'm guessing he means that SW Pennsylvania lacks the kind of Democratic power base he needs to have in a Democratic primary.
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« Reply #265 on: February 01, 2018, 06:17:42 PM »

It's Alabama all over again

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« Reply #266 on: February 01, 2018, 07:47:19 PM »

It's Alabama all over again

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How is Trump going to spin a loss in PA-18? Remember what he said when Gillespie lost? 'Ed worked hard, but he didn't embrace me. If you embrace Trump, we will win a massive landslide in November'. What the hell is he going to say about a sycophant like Saccone loosing?
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« Reply #267 on: February 01, 2018, 07:50:29 PM »

It's Alabama all over again

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How is Trump going to spin a loss in PA-18? Remember what he said when Gillespie lost? 'Ed worked hard, but he didn't embrace me. If you embrace Trump, we will win a massive landslide in November'. What the hell is he going to say about a sycophant like Saccone loosing?

Rick Saccone?....never heard of the guy."
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« Reply #268 on: February 01, 2018, 09:47:06 PM »

It's Alabama all over again

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How is Trump going to spin a loss in PA-18? Remember what he said when Gillespie lost? 'Ed worked hard, but he didn't embrace me. If you embrace Trump, we will win a massive landslide in November'. What the hell is he going to say about a sycophant like Saccone loosing?

Saccone is going to win easily.
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« Reply #269 on: February 01, 2018, 10:01:40 PM »

It's Alabama all over again

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How is Trump going to spin a loss in PA-18? Remember what he said when Gillespie lost? 'Ed worked hard, but he didn't embrace me. If you embrace Trump, we will win a massive landslide in November'. What the hell is he going to say about a sycophant like Saccone loosing?

Saccone is going to win easily.

Like your racist friend Ed Gillespie and your favorite pedophile Roy Moore. Lmao. Lamb's probably winning now.
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« Reply #270 on: February 01, 2018, 10:34:05 PM »

Obama was young and inexperienced. In today's politics inexperience is electable.
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« Reply #271 on: February 02, 2018, 06:51:23 AM »

It would be helpful to see a poll where Lamb is leading. I still hold by my view that there aren't enough people in this district open to voting Democrat in 2018 for Lamb to overcome Saccone's base, as incompetent as Saccone is.
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« Reply #272 on: February 02, 2018, 06:57:20 AM »

It would be helpful to see a poll where Lamb is leading. I still hold by my view that there aren't enough people in this district open to voting Democrat in 2018 for Lamb to overcome Saccone's base, as incompetent as Saccone is.

Indeed. But the game here is how many of them are going to stay home while energized Democrats go to the polls, like what happened in Virginia and Alabama.
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« Reply #273 on: February 02, 2018, 07:47:24 AM »

It would be helpful to see a poll where Lamb is leading. I still hold by my view that there aren't enough people in this district open to voting Democrat in 2018 for Lamb to overcome Saccone's base, as incompetent as Saccone is.

Indeed. But the game here is how many of them are going to stay home while energized Democrats go to the polls, like what happened in Virginia and Alabama.

Virginia doesn't really fit that description very well. Gillespie certainly got his voters to turn out. They just weren't nearly enough because there are more Democrats than Republicans in Virginia nowadays, and Democrats just turned out in full force.

No, turnout at the western part of the state was significantly down compared to NOVA.
Gillespie got roughly the same percentages as Trump but much fewer raw votes.
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« Reply #274 on: February 02, 2018, 07:56:58 AM »

It would be helpful to see a poll where Lamb is leading. I still hold by my view that there aren't enough people in this district open to voting Democrat in 2018 for Lamb to overcome Saccone's base, as incompetent as Saccone is.

Indeed. But the game here is how many of them are going to stay home while energized Democrats go to the polls, like what happened in Virginia and Alabama.

Virginia doesn't really fit that description very well. Gillespie certainly got his voters to turn out. They just weren't nearly enough because there are more Democrats than Republicans in Virginia nowadays, and Democrats just turned out in full force.

No, turnout at the western part of the state was significantly down compared to NOVA.
Gillespie got roughly the same percentages as Trump but much fewer raw votes.

I looked at a sample of 4 counties in the far west of the state and 2017 turnout there was about half of 2016 and on par with 2013. Given population growth and the focus on the race I'd say that indicates weak turnout.
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