Trump admin. seeking to roll back black lung safety protections for miners

[junior chįmp]

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[Landslide Lyndon]

Wow! It's sooooooo surprising that Trump will fyck coal miners, like he did with anyone else in his life who actually believed his promises.

[Dr. Arch]

Coal miners, farmers, the list keeps growing. It's almost as if he only cares about millionaires and billionaires.

[junior chįmp]

Coal miners, farmers, the list keeps growing. It's almost as if he only cares about millionaires and billionaires.

It's almost as if....as if, he's some kind....kindof con-artist

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

We would see wild swings in coal country in 2020 if a Dem really made this a campaign issue and cut ads about it.

[Mr. Smith]

Buh muh "bring back coal"!

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

The cartoon villainy continues.

[Landslide Lyndon]

We would see wild swings in coal country in 2020 if a Dem really made this a campaign issue and cut ads about it.

Not likely at the Presidential level where Trump is still a cult of personality there. Maybe at the local level in 2018 though

Yeah, as long as Trump continues to trash blacks, Mexicans, and women, the deplorables will continue to blindly support him.

[Sirius_]

What's all the fuss about? We obviously don't need lungs.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

We would see wild swings in coal country in 2020 if a Dem really made this a campaign issue and cut ads about it.

Not likely at the Presidential level where Trump is still a cult of personality there. Maybe at the local level in 2018 though

Yeah, as long as Trump continues to trash blacks, Mexicans, and women, the deplorables will continue to blindly support him.

More likely they will simply not bother voting.

[Sirius_]

We would see wild swings in coal country in 2020 if a Dem really made this a campaign issue and cut ads about it.

Not likely at the Presidential level where Trump is still a cult of personality there. Maybe at the local level in 2018 though

Yeah, as long as Trump continues to trash blacks, Mexicans, and women, the deplorables will continue to blindly support him.

I can see democrats doing quite well on a state level in WV in the near future, especially if the "bring coal back" initiative flops. But I agree that unless Joe Manchin is the nominee they'll keep voting for republican presidents.

[JA]

A 3 year old regulation? That means it’s one of those heavy handed, big government Obummer regulations. We need to unleash freedom and get the government out of our business. We did just fine before 3 years ago, we’ll do just fine again.

/s

[IceSpear]

We would see wild swings in coal country in 2020 if a Dem really made this a campaign issue and cut ads about it.

Alison Lundergan Grimes tried that against McConnell in 2014. Didn't work out very well.

[IceSpear]

What's all the fuss about? We obviously don't need lungs.

We didn't even have lungs 3 years ago! Stop the hyperbole!

[President Johnson]

Great decision. If these workers (who Donald Trump will always stand up for) die sooner, they safe a lot of money for Social Security. <sarcasm off> (some of his supporter's might actually think that way).

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

The guillotine needs a comeback.

[publicunofficial]

The guillotine needs a comeback.

Absolutely but don't let the mods hear you say that. ::eyeroll::

[pbrower2a]

Donald Trump pushed himself as a 'friend of coal', and in his mind that meant the coal barons.

It is a typical fascist myth, the basis of the Corporate State, that the laborer has anything in common with the owners. The clean-up crew at Wal*Mart has more in common with the clean-up crew at the hospital than with the Walton family. The bank teller has more in common with an office clerk for a food-processing company than he does with  the owner of the bank.

Donald Trump has an ideal of social organization akin to the Stato corporativoof Benito Mussolini. The idea is that the worst-paid worker has an inherent loyalty to his oppressors, a deliberate attempt to trivialize the appeals of socialists and Marxists.   

[DavidB.]

Absolutely revolting.

[AtorBoltox]

Elections have consequences

[Fuzzy Bear]

I would not be surprised if a significant number of coal miners are actually OK with this.  I don't say this blindly.  They view these regulations as part of "Obama's No Job Zone" (the title of a sign I saw for years when I drove the WV Turnpike on the way to visit my granddaughters in Ohio).  If this'll create more coal jobs, I bet they're OK with it.

Coal Miners know what they're doing; they're taking big risks for big money.  And the coal jobs pay pretty good for the locales they are in.  I'm glad I'm NOT a coal miner, but if I were in a situation where that was how I'd have to support my family, and the only other local option was working at Walmart, I might well make the decision to take the risk as a concession to the shortness of life.

[Badger]

The guillotine needs a comeback.

Absolutely but don't let the mods hear you say that. ::eyeroll::

[DrScholl]

I would not be surprised if a significant number of coal miners are actually OK with this.  I don't say this blindly.  They view these regulations as part of "Obama's No Job Zone" (the title of a sign I saw for years when I drove the WV Turnpike on the way to visit my granddaughters in Ohio).  If this'll create more coal jobs, I bet they're OK with it.

Coal Miners know what they're doing; they're taking big risks for big money.  And the coal jobs pay pretty good for the locales they are in.  I'm glad I'm NOT a coal miner, but if I were in a situation where that was how I'd have to support my family, and the only other local option was working at Walmart, I might well make the decision to take the risk as a concession to the shortness of life.

Yes, death is totally fabulous if it means more jobs. Saying "oh, it's okay because the miners might be fine with it" is a terrible defense.

[Fuzzy Bear]

I would not be surprised if a significant number of coal miners are actually OK with this.  I don't say this blindly.  They view these regulations as part of "Obama's No Job Zone" (the title of a sign I saw for years when I drove the WV Turnpike on the way to visit my granddaughters in Ohio).  If this'll create more coal jobs, I bet they're OK with it.

Coal Miners know what they're doing; they're taking big risks for big money.  And the coal jobs pay pretty good for the locales they are in.  I'm glad I'm NOT a coal miner, but if I were in a situation where that was how I'd have to support my family, and the only other local option was working at Walmart, I might well make the decision to take the risk as a concession to the shortness of life.

Yes, death is totally fabulous if it means more jobs. Saying "oh, it's okay because the miners might be fine with it" is a terrible defense.

I'm not defending the decision.  Not at all  It's a bad decision, and wrong.  I'm saying that the coal miners in WV and KY aren't going to respond to it with feelings of angst and betrayal.  This isn't going to send them back to the Democratic Party in the way folks think it will

Unemployed miners want the jobs to open up and they want the big money coal mining can bring them.  They see Obama and the current wave of Democrats who took their livelihoods without providing something better.  And they see these Black Lung programs as obstacles to job creation in their field.  They are like young millenials who opt out of Obamacare; they want the money now, and they don't think they're going to get sick.  Black Lung disease is for the other guy; it's not for them.   It's not a wise way of looking at things in the long run, but these folks share Lord Keynes' justification of his economic thery:  "In the long run, we are all dead."

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Y'all are missing the point.  This is part of the Trump administration's efforts to be supportive of minorities by seeking more opportunities for black lungs.