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« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2017, 11:02:05 AM »

Only in the same sense that Obama was the best thing for the GOP, W('s second term) was the best thing for the Democrats, and Clinton('s first term) was the best thing for the GOP. Party out of power prospers.
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« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2017, 02:48:09 PM »

In terms of electability, I think that if Hillary had won, she would've been like a Democratic/female version of George H. W. Bush. On the other hand, I think Trump is currently on track to being the Republican version of Jimmy Carter (if he manages to survive a full term).

Thus, on that front, Trump can be considered a blessing in disguise for the left.
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« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2017, 06:53:42 PM »

Losing a SCOTUS pick was devastating to the left, but a Democratic control Congress wouldn't have happened under a Prez Hillary.
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« Reply #28 on: December 16, 2017, 07:53:52 PM »

Losing a SCOTUS pick was devastating to the left, but a Democratic control Congress wouldn't have happened under a Prez Hillary.
Yeah, now we have what appears to be a liberal and progressive wave in elections starting last month and hopefully that momentum continues.
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« Reply #29 on: December 16, 2017, 08:35:52 PM »

Not really, but he's much better than a President Hillary Clinton for the left.
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« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2017, 12:56:41 AM »

Ted Cruz losing will totally make up for Trump winning. Hopefully Trump being garbage brings down the GOP & Lyin' Ted loses !
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« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2017, 10:06:45 AM »
« Edited: December 18, 2017, 12:11:41 PM by Stranger in a strange land »

Politically, a Republican president with a sub-40% approval rating is the best thing that could happen to Democrats.

In terms of policy, it's a tougher question. Trump's win was an environmental catastrophe, the judicial appointments will make conservative rulings for years, and the repeal of the individual mandate could be tough to reverse and cause major damage to insurance markets.

However, most of the provisions of the recent tax bill should be easy enough to reverse in 2021 or 2025, and the new funding allowed by the reversal of those tax policies could pay for major legislation such as an expansion of Medicare/Medicaid, a green stimulus," or universal pre-k. Also, the Supreme Court is still in play in the near/medium term until Kennedy retires.
This makes single-payer inevitable, especially if we get a Dem president in 2020 with large majorities in both houses (which is looking more and more like Trump's legacy).

And also, the Supreme Court is always going to be in flux to some degree: yes, Kennedy and Ginsburg are both in their 80s, with Breyer not far behind, but Alito (at 67) and Thomas (at 69) but are no spring chickens either.
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