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« on: December 10, 2017, 02:55:53 AM »

What's the liklihood of Doug Jones speaking at the 2020 Democratic National Convention?
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2017, 02:58:18 AM »

After he loses he will get Ossoff'ed. If the Democrats had nominated a (white male) populist for the seat, was the only way they were ever going to have a chance.
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2017, 03:14:00 AM »

If he wins.
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2017, 03:42:13 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2017, 10:07:01 AM »

After he loses he will get Ossoff'ed. If the Democrats had nominated a (white male) populist for the seat, was the only way they were ever going to have a chance.

Which Jones was, minus the pro-life stance anyway.


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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2017, 11:06:26 AM »

If he loses (which I think is slightly more likely) then he probably won't be a relevant figure in 3 years. If he wins, then speaking at the convention will probably hurt his reelection, because the Republicans will paint him as a a super liberal who speaks at Dem conventions and votes for evil things and hates god.
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2017, 12:48:12 PM »

If he loses (which I think is slightly more likely) then he probably won't be a relevant figure in 3 years. If he wins, then speaking at the convention will probably hurt his reelection, because the Republicans will paint him as a a super liberal who speaks at Dem conventions and votes for evil things and hates god.
Jones isn’t winning re-election unless the ALGOP nominates Roy Moore again.
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2017, 01:39:39 PM »

If he loses (which I think is slightly more likely) then he probably won't be a relevant figure in 3 years. If he wins, then speaking at the convention will probably hurt his reelection, because the Republicans will paint him as a a super liberal who speaks at Dem conventions and votes for evil things and hates god.
Jones isn’t winning re-election unless the ALGOP nominates Roy Moore again.

Martha Roby and Luther Strange would likely lose to Jones. Someone like Brooks should win, though the race wouldn't be Safe R.
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2017, 01:42:23 PM »

If he wins, he might. otherwise he'll be a nobody by 2020.
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2017, 03:04:35 PM »

If he wins, he might. otherwise he'll be a nobody by 2020.

I mean, it's not like the conventions don't have a lot of "nobody" speakers...
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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2017, 03:31:53 PM »

After he loses he will get Ossoff'ed. If the Democrats had nominated a (white male) populist for the seat, was the only way they were ever going to have a chance.
That's the issue that a lot of people don't understand about elections in the South. Had the Democratic Party nominated an Alabama-style Democrat, this election would've been in the bag. Why aren't we pursuing the 50-state strategy again?
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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2017, 03:33:33 PM »

After he loses he will get Ossoff'ed. If the Democrats had nominated a (white male) populist for the seat, was the only way they were ever going to have a chance.
That's the issue that a lot of people don't understand about elections in the South. Had the Democratic Party nominated an Alabama-style Democrat, this election would've been in the bag. Why aren't we pursuing the 50-state strategy again?

I'm pretty sure Doug Jones would've done better against Bentley than "Alabama-style Democrat" Parker Griffith did in 2014. Of course, that's not saying very much.

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?fips=1&year=2014&f=0&off=5&elect=0
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2017, 03:48:47 PM »

After he loses he will get Ossoff'ed. If the Democrats had nominated a (white male) populist for the seat, was the only way they were ever going to have a chance.
That's the issue that a lot of people don't understand about elections in the South. Had the Democratic Party nominated an Alabama-style Democrat, this election would've been in the bag. Why aren't we pursuing the 50-state strategy again?

I'm pretty sure Doug Jones would've done better against Bentley than "Alabama-style Democrat" Parker Griffith did in 2014. Of course, that's not saying very much.

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?fips=1&year=2014&f=0&off=5&elect=0
Bentley was a significantly stronger candidate in 2014 than Moore is today.
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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2017, 03:55:44 PM »

After he loses he will get Ossoff'ed. If the Democrats had nominated a (white male) populist for the seat, was the only way they were ever going to have a chance.
That's the issue that a lot of people don't understand about elections in the South. Had the Democratic Party nominated an Alabama-style Democrat, this election would've been in the bag. Why aren't we pursuing the 50-state strategy again?

Doug Jones is an extremely strong candidate (besides his abortion stance; a pro-life Doug Jones would do 1.5-2% better). He's been working harder than I've seen any democrat work in a long time.

Let's be real: Alabama isn't voting for a democrat because they won't ever vote for a democrat. I live 10 minutes away from Alabama - I know these folks. They don't even mention "abortion" when they talk about what they don't like about Jones - they mention all this random "crime, immigration, etc". They would say that about every single democrat.
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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2017, 03:58:13 PM »

After he loses he will get Ossoff'ed. If the Democrats had nominated a (white male) populist for the seat, was the only way they were ever going to have a chance.
That's the issue that a lot of people don't understand about elections in the South. Had the Democratic Party nominated an Alabama-style Democrat, this election would've been in the bag. Why aren't we pursuing the 50-state strategy again?

I'm pretty sure Doug Jones would've done better against Bentley than "Alabama-style Democrat" Parker Griffith did in 2014. Of course, that's not saying very much.

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?fips=1&year=2014&f=0&off=5&elect=0
Bentley was a significantly stronger candidate in 2014 than Moore is today.

I know. I'm saying if Jones ran in 2014, he would've done better than Griffith. Or at the very least did the same. Because Griffith basically hit the Democratic floor, about the same as some dude marijuana legalization activist Ron Crumpton did in 2016. Being an "Alabama-style Democrat" did squat for his chances.
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« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2017, 04:59:57 PM »

Yes, if he is elected but by 2020, he may be the most vulnerable Democratic senator since he will be representing a very conservative state.

Jones is a moderate Southern Democrat. If he loses on Tuesday, he may be a future AG in a Democratic administration.
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« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2017, 07:36:49 PM »

If he wins, he might. otherwise he'll be a nobody by 2020.
Osoff and kander seems to be doing alright..
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« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2017, 07:37:44 PM »

After he loses he will get Ossoff'ed. If the Democrats had nominated a (white male) populist for the seat, was the only way they were ever going to have a chance.
That's the issue that a lot of people don't understand about elections in the South. Had the Democratic Party nominated an Alabama-style Democrat, this election would've been in the bag. Why aren't we pursuing the 50-state strategy again?

I'm pretty sure Doug Jones would've done better against Bentley than "Alabama-style Democrat" Parker Griffith did in 2014. Of course, that's not saying very much.

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?fips=1&year=2014&f=0&off=5&elect=0
Bentley was a significantly stronger candidate in 2014 than Moore is today.

I know. I'm saying if Jones ran in 2014, he would've done better than Griffith. Or at the very least did the same. Because Griffith basically hit the Democratic floor, about the same as some dude marijuana legalization activist Ron Crumpton did in 2016. Being an "Alabama-style Democrat" did squat for his chances.
Actually, how did Griffith manage to do so badly? He barely cracked 35% and lost Jefferson County.
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« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2017, 07:47:07 PM »

If he wins, he might. otherwise he'll be a nobody by 2020.
Osoff and kander seems to be doing alright..
Kander served in a statewide office for 4 years.
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« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2017, 07:47:37 PM »

After he loses he will get Ossoff'ed. If the Democrats had nominated a (white male) populist for the seat, was the only way they were ever going to have a chance.
That's the issue that a lot of people don't understand about elections in the South. Had the Democratic Party nominated an Alabama-style Democrat, this election would've been in the bag. Why aren't we pursuing the 50-state strategy again?

I'm pretty sure Doug Jones would've done better against Bentley than "Alabama-style Democrat" Parker Griffith did in 2014. Of course, that's not saying very much.

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?fips=1&year=2014&f=0&off=5&elect=0
Bentley was a significantly stronger candidate in 2014 than Moore is today.

I know. I'm saying if Jones ran in 2014, he would've done better than Griffith. Or at the very least did the same. Because Griffith basically hit the Democratic floor, about the same as some dude marijuana legalization activist Ron Crumpton did in 2016. Being an "Alabama-style Democrat" did squat for his chances.
Actually, how did Griffith manage to do so badly? He barely cracked 35% and lost Jefferson County.

Doesn't excite AfAm community and flip-flop.
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« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2017, 08:17:44 PM »

After he loses he will get Ossoff'ed. If the Democrats had nominated a (white male) populist for the seat, was the only way they were ever going to have a chance.
That's the issue that a lot of people don't understand about elections in the South. Had the Democratic Party nominated an Alabama-style Democrat, this election would've been in the bag. Why aren't we pursuing the 50-state strategy again?

I'm pretty sure Doug Jones would've done better against Bentley than "Alabama-style Democrat" Parker Griffith did in 2014. Of course, that's not saying very much.

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?fips=1&year=2014&f=0&off=5&elect=0
Bentley was a significantly stronger candidate in 2014 than Moore is today.

I know. I'm saying if Jones ran in 2014, he would've done better than Griffith. Or at the very least did the same. Because Griffith basically hit the Democratic floor, about the same as some dude marijuana legalization activist Ron Crumpton did in 2016. Being an "Alabama-style Democrat" did squat for his chances.
Actually, how did Griffith manage to do so badly? He barely cracked 35% and lost Jefferson County.

Because he's a joke. The biggest swings to Bentley were in his former district, lol.

And yeah, it's pretty pathetic that he lost Jefferson County when even Crumpton won it.
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« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2017, 09:18:13 PM »

In order for Jones to be a 2020 DNC speaker, the following conditions must be true:

(1) He wins this upcoming election.
(2) He is popular by the time the 2020 DNC rolls around.

If either of these conditions are not true, then he will almost certainly not be a 2020 DNC speaker.
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« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2017, 09:58:26 PM »

Did you guys watch the same DNC I did? Even if/when Jones loses, there were tons of speakers way more irrelevant than him. Unless you're all referring to prime time or keynote speeches.
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« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2017, 10:39:22 PM »

If he wins then he will probably be invited to speak if not then he probably won’t speak.
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« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2017, 01:54:39 PM »

Of course the nominee will speak at the convention.
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