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« on: September 01, 2005, 09:47:16 AM »

discuss delaware.

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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2005, 10:02:40 AM »

An otherwise decent state ruined by urbanization.
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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2005, 10:19:55 AM »

Just a piece of suburban sprawl.
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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2005, 11:07:35 AM »

The Liechenstein of the US
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2005, 11:10:47 AM »

A tiny version of Illinois.
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2005, 11:18:00 AM »


That's a decent comparison, actually.  One county voting heavily Democratic makes the whole state solid Dem.
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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2005, 11:23:43 AM »

Ah yes, I forgot about the breathtaking Delaware Alps. Smiley
And yes, I know what you were referring to...
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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2005, 11:39:07 AM »

Republicans really should have campaigned harder in 2004.  Bush might not have been able to win the state, but it could have been very close.  Additionally, a swing to Bush would have translated into a swing for Bill Lee and the GOP probably would have won the Governor's mansion.
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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2005, 12:09:41 PM »

Republicans really should have campaigned harder in 2004.  Bush might not have been able to win the state, but it could have been very close.  Additionally, a swing to Bush would have translated into a swing for Bill Lee and the GOP probably would have won the Governor's mansion.

That would mean the Republicans would have to spend money in the Philadelphia media market, which would have been a huge waste of funds.  It's similar to New Jersey in that the Republicans could have made it closer, but then they would have had to run ads in the NYC media market.
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2005, 12:49:19 PM »

Republicans really should have campaigned harder in 2004.  Bush might not have been able to win the state, but it could have been very close.  Additionally, a swing to Bush would have translated into a swing for Bill Lee and the GOP probably would have won the Governor's mansion.

That would mean the Republicans would have to spend money in the Philadelphia media market, which would have been a huge waste of funds.  It's similar to New Jersey in that the Republicans could have made it closer, but then they would have had to run ads in the NYC media market.

The Bush campaign did spend a lot of money in the Philadelphia media market, mainly for Pennsylvania advertising, but also with the tacit understanding that it would also reach New Jersey and Delaware.
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2005, 01:07:42 PM »

Republicans really should have campaigned harder in 2004.  Bush might not have been able to win the state, but it could have been very close.  Additionally, a swing to Bush would have translated into a swing for Bill Lee and the GOP probably would have won the Governor's mansion.

That would mean the Republicans would have to spend money in the Philadelphia media market, which would have been a huge waste of funds.  It's similar to New Jersey in that the Republicans could have made it closer, but then they would have had to run ads in the NYC media market.

The Bush campaign did spend a lot of money in the Philadelphia media market, mainly for Pennsylvania advertising, but also with the tacit understanding that it would also reach New Jersey and Delaware.

That's true but the Republicans could have sent Cheney (or even Bush) out to Wilmington or Dover to have a rally w/Bill Lee and Mike Castle.
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2005, 01:42:59 PM »

Republicans really should have campaigned harder in 2004.  Bush might not have been able to win the state, but it could have been very close.  Additionally, a swing to Bush would have translated into a swing for Bill Lee and the GOP probably would have won the Governor's mansion.

That would mean the Republicans would have to spend money in the Philadelphia media market, which would have been a huge waste of funds.  It's similar to New Jersey in that the Republicans could have made it closer, but then they would have had to run ads in the NYC media market.

The Bush campaign did spend a lot of money in the Philadelphia media market, mainly for Pennsylvania advertising, but also with the tacit understanding that it would also reach New Jersey and Delaware.

Wow, that was stupid of me.  I entirely forgot about Pennsylvania actually being in the Philadelphia suburbs.  Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2005, 05:22:20 PM »

Republicans really should have campaigned harder in 2004.  Bush might not have been able to win the state, but it could have been very close.  Additionally, a swing to Bush would have translated into a swing for Bill Lee and the GOP probably would have won the Governor's mansion.

That would mean the Republicans would have to spend money in the Philadelphia media market, which would have been a huge waste of funds.  It's similar to New Jersey in that the Republicans could have made it closer, but then they would have had to run ads in the NYC media market.

The Bush campaign did spend a lot of money in the Philadelphia media market, mainly for Pennsylvania advertising, but also with the tacit understanding that it would also reach New Jersey and Delaware.

That's true but the Republicans could have sent Cheney (or even Bush) out to Wilmington or Dover to have a rally w/Bill Lee and Mike Castle.

I guess they decided that sending Cheney to New Jersey was the smarter move.

It still wouldn't have made a big difference, honestly.
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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2005, 05:37:08 PM »

Delaware is a thoroughly uninteresting state; once you know about its politics, it never really changes.  There is New Castle County, which votes strongly Democratic in virtually any situation, and then Kent and Sussex vote Republican, but will vote for a Democrat, especially a southern-ish populist.  Generally Kent is closer than Sussex, although both are pretty solidly Republican, and sometimes switch.

Because of all of this, the average election is the Dems winning with around 10 points.  If the Republicans do well in New Castle County, they can carry the state; if the Democrats do well in Kent and Sussex, they can win landslides.

I gather that basically all of New Castle County is Democratic, with the exception of a few rural precincts, while downtown Dover is heavily Democratic, the suburbs are mixed with a strong Republican lean, and the exurbs are heavily Republican.  Sussex County seems to be very heavily Republican except the town centres of some of the towns, which are somewhat Democratic.

It all seems very stationary, politically.
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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2005, 03:33:39 AM »

In 2000 the parts of New Castle bordering PA voted pretty strongly for Bush
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