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« Reply #50 on: November 16, 2017, 11:12:38 AM »

Hate to sound all cliche or holier than [them], but what is wrong with these dudes?  It's one thing to make some regrettable statements or jokes with your buddies behind closed doors (still not "acceptable," but we all know it happens), but it takes a truly messed up man to think you can just do something - anything - to a girl that she hasn't given you a very clear sign that it's okay to do.  Obviously, I am QUITE naive, but that seems like common sense.

I know "politicians" encompass some of the worst people, but damn ... this is depressingly more widespread than I think most people would have liked to believe. Sad
This is one reason why tribal partisanship is probably the worst social disease known to man.
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« Reply #51 on: November 16, 2017, 11:13:47 AM »

When Keith Olbermann says his explanation is insufficient and he must go, it's night night time for the Senator.
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« Reply #52 on: November 16, 2017, 11:14:58 AM »

Hate to sound all cliche or holier than [them], but what is wrong with these dudes?  It's one thing to make some regrettable statements or jokes with your buddies behind closed doors (still not "acceptable," but we all know it happens), but it takes a truly messed up man to think you can just do something - anything - to a girl that she hasn't given you a very clear sign that it's okay to do.  Obviously, I am QUITE naive, but that seems like common sense.

I know "politicians" encompass some of the worst people, but damn ... this is depressingly more widespread than I think most people would have liked to believe. Sad

Do you know what Dutch male teenagers talk about in NYC when they think nobody can understand them Tongue?

Anyway, I don't think Franken will be the last. The senate is filled with powerful men with huge ego's who think they can get away with everything.
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« Reply #53 on: November 16, 2017, 11:18:09 AM »

How screwed up do you have to be to take a picture of yourself as you nonconsensually fondle a woman in her sleep? Good lord.
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« Reply #54 on: November 16, 2017, 11:18:11 AM »

And to nobody's surprise, Trumplicans are already calling for his resignation.

Al Franken really isn't as smart as he thinks.
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« Reply #55 on: November 16, 2017, 11:21:09 AM »

Good to see no one is doubting or counter accusing the victim. A refreshing change.
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« Reply #56 on: November 16, 2017, 11:21:35 AM »

And to nobody's surprise, Trumplicans are already calling for his resignation.

Al Franken really isn't as smart as he thinks.

Keith Olberman is a Trumplican? 
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« Reply #57 on: November 16, 2017, 11:21:58 AM »

Good to see no one is doubting or counter accusing the victim. A refreshing change.
Franken is a progressive Democrat from a historically progressive state, you see.
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« Reply #58 on: November 16, 2017, 11:22:38 AM »

Good to see no one is doubting or counter accusing the victim. A refreshing change.
Franken is a progressive Democrat from a historically progressive state, you see.


There is a picture of Franken doing the deed, you see.
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« Reply #59 on: November 16, 2017, 11:23:37 AM »

He needs to resign, plain and simple.
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« Reply #60 on: November 16, 2017, 11:24:01 AM »

And to nobody's surprise, Trumplicans are already calling for his resignation.

Al Franken really isn't as smart as he thinks.

Keith Olberman is a Trumplican? 

Did I say "Just Trumplicans"? I'm showing their hypocrisy.
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« Reply #61 on: November 16, 2017, 11:24:45 AM »

And to nobody's surprise, Trumplicans are already calling for his resignation.

Al Franken really isn't as smart as he thinks.

Keith Olberman is a Trumplican? 

Did I say "Just Trumplicans"? I'm showing their hypocrisy.

Your omission of Democrats shows yours.
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« Reply #62 on: November 16, 2017, 11:25:08 AM »

And to nobody's surprise, Trumplicans are already calling for his resignation.

Al Franken really isn't as smart as he thinks.

Keith Olberman is a Trumplican? 

Did I say "Just Trumplicans"? I'm showing their hypocrisy.

Your omission of Democrats shows yours.

Yeah, ok.
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« Reply #63 on: November 16, 2017, 11:27:10 AM »

So, two of my favorite people have been accused of sexual harassment this week.

I need to keep better company.

Help me Chris Murphy you’re my only hope
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« Reply #64 on: November 16, 2017, 11:28:48 AM »

Has Hillary said anything? He was the first Senator to endorse her and was prominently featured in her advertising campaign and social media outreach.
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« Reply #65 on: November 16, 2017, 11:30:31 AM »

Give him credit for saying sorry so quickly. This is a sign of personal growth... Most people accused of stuff like this outright deny what happened, or they claim it was consensual, or they turn to obfuscation or victim blaming etc. Franken took a different course. We should value this fact. Old habits can die hard, and he is working on it. He's taking notes.
Franken was also once very deeply immersed in the entertainment industry, which has a problem with sexual misconduct. There is very little surprise in this, once you think about it, given his personal record. What we should give Franken is benefit of the doubt. This was him almost 12 years ago. Perhaps he hasn't really confronted his past. 2017 Franken is at heart a good person imo, so he can look at his past and make up for it, make amends, etc. His actions today seem pretty good already. No resignation is necessary.
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« Reply #66 on: November 16, 2017, 11:32:13 AM »

Yeah, he should resign.
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« Reply #67 on: November 16, 2017, 11:33:02 AM »

This is disgusting. I'm especially disturbed that his actions could have encouraged more of that kind of behavior in the military.
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« Reply #68 on: November 16, 2017, 11:34:27 AM »

This is disgusting. I'm especially disturbed that his actions could have encouraged more of that kind of behavior in the military.
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« Reply #69 on: November 16, 2017, 11:34:40 AM »

Every male politician accused of sexual harassment should be replaced by a woman.

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« Reply #70 on: November 16, 2017, 11:36:06 AM »

So, two of my favorite people have been accused of sexual harassment this week.

I need to keep better company.

Help me Chris Murphy you’re my only hope

Start supporting more women!
Kirsten and Liz are like right behind Murphy.
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« Reply #71 on: November 16, 2017, 11:36:56 AM »

It's a shame, I really wanted him as the running mate on whatever Dem ticket ended up emerging. I'd been a fan of his for literally decades. I even listened to Air America in its early days. I'm very disappointed in him.

We're in a new era now, and things like this are unacceptable. Yes, people did far worse than him in the past and the present, but that's not the bar we should hold people to. Franken should go.
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« Reply #72 on: November 16, 2017, 11:38:48 AM »

Damn, Jesse Lacey and Louis CK has better apologies...
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« Reply #73 on: November 16, 2017, 11:39:26 AM »

Damn, Jesse Lacey and Louis CK has better apologies...
Jesse Lacey as in Brand New Jesse Lacey?!?!?!
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« Reply #74 on: November 16, 2017, 11:39:59 AM »

Damn, Jesse Lacey and Louis CK has better apologies...
Man, looks like the title of your TL "Feel the Franken" has a whole new meaning after today...
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