Alabama Megathread 2: Thou Shall Not Touch Teenage Girls

[Bidenworth2020]

crap. doug is going down-
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/dec/06/doug-jones/jones-ad-wrongly-attacks-moore-sex-crime-case/

Are you kidding me?

Please stop

look, the key to Jones's campaign is to show he has extremely uncontroversial, which plays in the burbs.  Those pubs are trying to find a reason to vote republican, this is it. Also, even though this isn't huge, the race was already likely in Moore's favor. This can not help anything.

If this "changes their mind" on voting for Jones, they were never truly voting for him anyway.

true, but Moore needs write in->Moore votes badly

[IceSpear]

crap. doug is going down-
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/dec/06/doug-jones/jones-ad-wrongly-attacks-moore-sex-crime-case/

Are you kidding me?

Please stop

look, the key to Jones's campaign is to show he has extremely uncontroversial, which plays in the burbs.  Those pubs are trying to find a reason to vote republican, this is it. Also, even though this isn't huge, the race was already likely in Moore's favor. This can not help anything.

If this "changes their mind" on voting for Jones, they were never truly voting for him anyway.

Which is why the race is and always was safe R.

[Cactus Jack]

crap. doug is going down-
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/dec/06/doug-jones/jones-ad-wrongly-attacks-moore-sex-crime-case/

You're deluding yourself if you think the average Alabaman reads PolitiFact.

[DrScholl]

Politifact's explanation to why it's false is so convoluted that most voters aren't going to even bother with reading it.

[junior chįmp]

crap. doug is going down-
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/dec/06/doug-jones/jones-ad-wrongly-attacks-moore-sex-crime-case/

You're deluding yourself if you think the average Alabaman reads PolitiFact.

Or reads in general

Hell...most have "read" the Bible by watching Passion of the Christ

[IceSpear]

crap. doug is going down-
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/dec/06/doug-jones/jones-ad-wrongly-attacks-moore-sex-crime-case/

You're deluding yourself if you think the average Alabaman reads PolitiFact.

Wow, insulting Alabamans? Sounds like you're worse than a pedophile!

[Bidenworth2020]

crap. doug is going down-
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/dec/06/doug-jones/jones-ad-wrongly-attacks-moore-sex-crime-case/

You're deluding yourself if you think the average Alabaman reads PolitiFact.

you're deluding yourself if you think fox news will not extensively cover this

[Cactus Jack]

crap. doug is going down-
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/dec/06/doug-jones/jones-ad-wrongly-attacks-moore-sex-crime-case/

You're deluding yourself if you think the average Alabaman reads PolitiFact.

you're deluding yourself if you think fox news will not extensively cover this

Hasn't Fox been avoiding Moore like the plague? They have better things to do, in any case, like trying to convince people Trump isn't a criminal.

[Prussian1871]

An interesting wrench that could well tip the race: how do you think the first government shutdown with a trifecta for one-party would effect things?

[NOVA Green]

crap. doug is going down-
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/dec/06/doug-jones/jones-ad-wrongly-attacks-moore-sex-crime-case/

Non-Issue....

Typical 'Bama or East 'Tex style dirty knife fight politics....

Jones owns the Air War, too late and too expensive for Moore to respond in kind.

The hardcore 265k Moore voters from the 'Pub Primary are going to vote for him regardless...

The battle is over the Non-Moore 'Pub voters and Indies, many of whom already believe the accusations are credible.

Facts don't necessarily matter as much in a 'Bama style knife fight as reinforcing preexisting images of the opponent among his most vulnerable segment of the electorate....

Honestly, probably a pretty damn good strategy on Jones part to hit this hard late in the game, while the "Crazy Uncle" tries to fact-check the younger members of his family on the content of this ad, there is already a baked in perception among White Female voters in the largest Metro areas in the State that these allegations are most likely correct.

10-Love   Jones

[Blair]

I guarantee the Moore campaign or Fox won't be running around shouting the word 'sex' at all; especially when it's just a boring process story.

If a canidiate can be accused of sexual assault and still win, then a campaign will survive for taking liberties with a political ad.

[mcmikk]

crap. doug is going down-
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/dec/06/doug-jones/jones-ad-wrongly-attacks-moore-sex-crime-case/

Non-Issue....

Typical 'Bama or East 'Tex style dirty knife fight politics....

Jones owns the Air War, too late and too expensive for Moore to respond in kind.

The hardcore 265k Moore voters from the 'Pub Primary are going to vote for him regardless...

The battle is over the Non-Moore 'Pub voters and Indies, many of whom already believe the accusations are credible.

Facts don't necessarily matter as much in a 'Bama style knife fight as reinforcing preexisting images of the opponent among his most vulnerable segment of the electorate....

Honestly, probably a pretty damn good strategy on Jones part to hit this hard late in the game, while the "Crazy Uncle" tries to fact-check the younger members of his family on the content of this ad, there is already a baked in perception among White Female voters in the largest Metro areas in the State that these allegations are most likely correct.

10-Love   Jones

[Gustaf]

Yeah I don't think Moore wants to talk about how he only voted in favour of a pedophile due to a technical legal point.

[Holy Unifying Centrist]

Fox News is too busy talking about Hitlerlaly Clinton to talk about that ad.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Crystal Ball final analysis of the race, including what a Jones victory map might look like:

http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/alabama-senate-closing-time/

[Alabama_Indy10]

Sen. Luther Strange just gave his farewell speech. Very good speech which stressed compromise and bipartisanship.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Sen. Luther Strange just gave his farewell speech. Very good speech which stressed compromise and bipartisanship.

What a bunch of bull from a guy who voted 100% party line.
That's like Roy Moore talking about children safety and then going to the mall to chase underage girls.

[junior chįmp]

Sen. Luther Strange just gave his farewell speech. Very good speech which stressed compromise and bipartisanship.

What a bunch of bull from a guy who voted 100% party line.
That's like Roy Moore talking about children safety and then going to the mall to chase underage girls.

Speeches about bipartisanship by Republicans crack me up....they have never once believed in it since Gingrich took over. Bipartisanship, according to Republicans, means do what we tell you to

[Stranger in a strange land]

I'm glad Jones is at least putting up a fight and not rolling over with the usual moderate heroism.

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

I'm glad Jones is at least putting up a fight and not rolling over with the usual moderate heroism.

Running as a "moderate hero" would be better in a state like Alabama, but otherwise I agree with you.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Not that it will change any Republican's mind, but DAMN! This guy is insane.

https://twitter.com/chrismassie/status/938833735893561350

Wanted to share a video of Roy Moore in 1997 arguing that kids commit drive-by shooting because they are taught evolution in school: "They're acting like animals because we've taught them they come from animals."

[Stranger in a strange land]

I'm glad Jones is at least putting up a fight and not rolling over with the usual moderate heroism.

Running as a "moderate hero" would be better in a state like Alabama, but otherwise I agree with you.

That's what Democrats have done in the South since the Clinton years and look where that's gotten them. It might have worked in the 80s and 90s, but it doesn't work now: I think the most effective strategy would be to run as a modern version of a Huey Long-type Democrat, i.e. "I'm gonna make damn sure the Hedge Fund Managers on Wall Street pay their fair share of taxes so we can use that money for health care and education for our kids down here in Alabama".

[GeorgiaModerate]

Not that it will change any Republican's mind, but DAMN! This guy is insane.

https://twitter.com/chrismassie/status/938833735893561350

Wanted to share a video of Roy Moore in 1997 arguing that kids commit drive-by shooting because they are taught evolution in school: "They're acting like animals because we've taught them they come from animals."

Someone should ask him how many non-human animals have committed drive-by shootings.

[Pericles]

Doug Jonnes is just a normal polling error away from a win.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/doug-jones-is-just-a-normal-polling-error-away-from-a-win-in-alabama/

[junior chįmp]

Not that it will change any Republican's mind, but DAMN! This guy is insane.

https://twitter.com/chrismassie/status/938833735893561350

Wanted to share a video of Roy Moore in 1997 arguing that kids commit drive-by shooting because they are taught evolution in school: "They're acting like animals because we've taught them they come from animals."

Roy Moore is obviously mad at evolution because he has yet to evolve