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« Reply #825 on: April 20, 2018, 09:38:49 PM »

The world would be a better place if Germany/Central Powers won World War I.
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« Reply #826 on: April 20, 2018, 09:48:47 PM »

Jordan Peterson is wrong sometimes but is generally a good psychologist.
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« Reply #827 on: April 20, 2018, 09:51:42 PM »

Jordan Peterson is wrong sometimes but is generally a good psychologist.

My brother keeps mentioning him to me, but I’m reluctant to check him out because he’s popular.
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« Reply #828 on: April 21, 2018, 09:47:18 AM »

Jordan Peterson is wrong sometimes but is generally a good psychologist.
This is the dude that actively refused to respect his trans students pronouns because "free speech".
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« Reply #829 on: April 21, 2018, 12:26:34 PM »

Jordan Peterson is wrong sometimes but is generally a good psychologist.

He's also generally a huge douchebag even not taking his views into account.
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« Reply #830 on: April 21, 2018, 03:29:41 PM »

https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/814846341113323521?lang=en

Not a fan of this man, for rather obvious reasons
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« Reply #831 on: April 21, 2018, 04:50:50 PM »

Jordan Peterson is wrong sometimes but is generally a good psychologist.
This is the dude that actively refused to respect his trans students pronouns because "free speech".

Note that this refusal is within contexts of debates about the issue itself and is otherwise hypothetical.  No one claimed he called them the wrong thing.
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« Reply #832 on: April 21, 2018, 05:24:11 PM »

Jordan Peterson is wrong sometimes but is generally a good psychologist.
This is the dude that actively refused to respect his trans students pronouns because "free speech".

Note that this refusal is within contexts of debates about the issue itself and is otherwise hypothetical.  No one claimed he called them the wrong thing.
So he swore he wouldn't respect any trans students but its okay because...

He doesn't have any trans students. Try applying this logic to the N word or something.
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« Reply #833 on: April 21, 2018, 05:57:56 PM »

Jordan Peterson is wrong sometimes but is generally a good psychologist.
This is the dude that actively refused to respect his trans students pronouns because "free speech".

Note that this refusal is within contexts of debates about the issue itself and is otherwise hypothetical.  No one claimed he called them the wrong thing.
So he swore he wouldn't respect any trans students but its okay because...

He doesn't have any trans students. Try applying this logic to the N word or something.

Peterson's point is that the government shouldn't force people to use certain words, regardless of whom is being addressed.  He is not required to address a female student using female pronouns, nor a male using male pronouns, and it is entirely within his rights to refer to anyone he chooses by the word "it."  But he chooses not to, because that's outside the given norm.  He's even said that he would use the preferred pronoun of a particular individual if that person asked him to, rather than the state.

He is wrong on singular 'they' as that debate's pretty much been settled by grammarians, but having the state force people to use the silly pronouns (zir/zem/etc.) is just absurd.
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« Reply #834 on: April 21, 2018, 06:08:40 PM »

People who knew a transgender person before they openly started to acknowledge that they are in fact transgender that use incorrect pronouns are not necessarily transphobic.
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« Reply #835 on: April 21, 2018, 08:08:01 PM »

Jordan Peterson is wrong sometimes but is generally a good psychologist.
This is the dude that actively refused to respect his trans students pronouns because "free speech".

Note that this refusal is within contexts of debates about the issue itself and is otherwise hypothetical.  No one claimed he called them the wrong thing.
So he swore he wouldn't respect any trans students but its okay because...

He doesn't have any trans students. Try applying this logic to the N word or something.

You mean if someone wanted to be called the N word?    No, I'd refuse.
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« Reply #836 on: April 21, 2018, 09:11:37 PM »

Hillary would have won the election against most other Republicans.
Agreed. And Bernie would've lost to most other Republicans, but beaten Trump.
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« Reply #837 on: April 21, 2018, 09:15:09 PM »

Folks, this man believes Jacques Derrida is responsible for the decline of Western Civilization. Why are we taking him seriously?
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« Reply #838 on: April 21, 2018, 09:39:09 PM »

Hillary would have won the election against most other Republicans.
Agreed. And Bernie would've lost to most other Republicans, but beaten Trump.
Yeah, I'm actually inclined to agree with both of these tales.
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« Reply #839 on: April 22, 2018, 12:31:00 AM »

Alcohol should be illegal, but it's too ingrained in society to actually execute the ban without mass protests.  Same thing with tobacco.  And that's my biggest reason for not wanting to legalize marijuana- that we cannot create a third great American drug that becomes readily available and socially acceptable.  I don't think pot is that much worse than alcohol or tobacco (from what I've read- I have never had and will never have any of the three), but they should all be illegal- but it's the only one of the three that isn't so deeply entrenched that it's almost impossible to ban.
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« Reply #840 on: April 22, 2018, 12:35:51 AM »

Alcohol should be illegal, but it's too ingrained in society to actually execute the ban without mass protests.  Same thing with tobacco.  And that's my biggest reason for not wanting to legalize marijuana- that we cannot create a third great American drug that becomes readily available and socially acceptable.  I don't think pot is that much worse than alcohol or tobacco (from what I've read- I have never had and will never have any of the three), but they should all be illegal- but it's the only one of the three that isn't so deeply entrenched that it's almost impossible to ban.

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« Reply #841 on: April 22, 2018, 12:53:42 AM »

Alcohol should be illegal, but it's too ingrained in society to actually execute the ban without mass protests.  Same thing with tobacco.  And that's my biggest reason for not wanting to legalize marijuana- that we cannot create a third great American drug that becomes readily available and socially acceptable.  I don't think pot is that much worse than alcohol or tobacco (from what I've read- I have never had and will never have any of the three), but they should all be illegal- but it's the only one of the three that isn't so deeply entrenched that it's almost impossible to ban.



I of course agree with the image in spirit, but I'm more curious what is going on in that picture Kiki. It seems like something else ExtremeConservative might not approve of Tongue
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« Reply #842 on: April 22, 2018, 09:06:29 AM »

Alcohol should be illegal, but it's too ingrained in society to actually execute the ban without mass protests.  Same thing with tobacco.  And that's my biggest reason for not wanting to legalize marijuana- that we cannot create a third great American drug that becomes readily available and socially acceptable.  I don't think pot is that much worse than alcohol or tobacco (from what I've read- I have never had and will never have any of the three), but they should all be illegal- but it's the only one of the three that isn't so deeply entrenched that it's almost impossible to ban.

Please be a Republican Senate nominee at some point. Please, please
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« Reply #843 on: April 22, 2018, 09:45:09 AM »

Alcohol should be illegal, but it's too ingrained in society to actually execute the ban without mass protests.  Same thing with tobacco.  And that's my biggest reason for not wanting to legalize marijuana- that we cannot create a third great American drug that becomes readily available and socially acceptable.  I don't think pot is that much worse than alcohol or tobacco (from what I've read- I have never had and will never have any of the three), but they should all be illegal- but it's the only one of the three that isn't so deeply entrenched that it's almost impossible to ban.

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« Reply #844 on: April 22, 2018, 09:59:08 AM »

Alcohol should be illegal, but it's too ingrained in society to actually execute the ban without mass protests.  Same thing with tobacco.  And that's my biggest reason for not wanting to legalize marijuana- that we cannot create a third great American drug that becomes readily available and socially acceptable.  I don't think pot is that much worse than alcohol or tobacco (from what I've read- I have never had and will never have any of the three), but they should all be illegal- but it's the only one of the three that isn't so deeply entrenched that it's almost impossible to ban.

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Not really that bad a viewpoint if you don’t dress up in a Reagan costume.
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« Reply #845 on: April 22, 2018, 10:12:51 AM »

Alcohol should be illegal, but it's too ingrained in society to actually execute the ban without mass protests.  Same thing with tobacco.  And that's my biggest reason for not wanting to legalize marijuana- that we cannot create a third great American drug that becomes readily available and socially acceptable.  I don't think pot is that much worse than alcohol or tobacco (from what I've read- I have never had and will never have any of the three), but they should all be illegal- but it's the only one of the three that isn't so deeply entrenched that it's almost impossible to ban.

Please be a Republican Senatore nominee at some point. Please, please
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« Reply #846 on: April 22, 2018, 03:02:50 PM »

Bernie Sanders wouldn't have beaten Trump.  And if he couldn't do that, then he wouldn't have beaten any of the other Republicans either.
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« Reply #847 on: April 23, 2018, 09:43:08 AM »

Jordan Peterson is wrong sometimes but is generally a good psychologist.
This is the dude that actively refused to respect his trans students pronouns because "free speech".

Note that this refusal is within contexts of debates about the issue itself and is otherwise hypothetical.  No one claimed he called them the wrong thing.
So he swore he wouldn't respect any trans students but its okay because...

He doesn't have any trans students. Try applying this logic to the N word or something.

Peterson's point is that the government shouldn't force people to use certain words, regardless of whom is being addressed.  He is not required to address a female student using female pronouns, nor a male using male pronouns, and it is entirely within his rights to refer to anyone he chooses by the word "it."  But he chooses not to, because that's outside the given norm.  He's even said that he would use the preferred pronoun of a particular individual if that person asked him to, rather than the state.

He is wrong on singular 'they' as that debate's pretty much been settled by grammarians, but having the state force people to use the silly pronouns (zir/zem/etc.) is just absurd.
Except he claimed these things about a bill that doesn't even mention gendered pronouns. Personally, I don't trust a person who starts unsubstantiated fear mongering about a bill to protect trans people from discrimination and hate crimes to not be transphobic.

https://medium.com/s/story/a-field-guide-to-jordan-petersons-political-arguments-312153eac99a
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« Reply #848 on: April 23, 2018, 09:44:09 AM »

Jordan Peterson is wrong sometimes but is generally a good psychologist.
This is the dude that actively refused to respect his trans students pronouns because "free speech".

Note that this refusal is within contexts of debates about the issue itself and is otherwise hypothetical.  No one claimed he called them the wrong thing.
So he swore he wouldn't respect any trans students but its okay because...

He doesn't have any trans students. Try applying this logic to the N word or something.

You mean if someone wanted to be called the N word?    No, I'd refuse.
No. If someone refused to not call someone the n word.
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« Reply #849 on: April 23, 2018, 11:19:24 AM »

Jordan Peterson is wrong sometimes but is generally a good psychologist.
This is the dude that actively refused to respect his trans students pronouns because "free speech".

Note that this refusal is within contexts of debates about the issue itself and is otherwise hypothetical.  No one claimed he called them the wrong thing.
So he swore he wouldn't respect any trans students but its okay because...

He doesn't have any trans students. Try applying this logic to the N word or something.

You mean if someone wanted to be called the N word?    No, I'd refuse.
No. If someone refused to not call someone the n word.

Comparing being called the wrong pronoun to being called a racial slur semmes rather hyperbolic...
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