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« Reply #425 on: March 19, 2018, 03:03:28 PM »

Hasn't Hosemann declared privately that he wants to run for LG?
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« Reply #426 on: March 19, 2018, 03:11:16 PM »

Hasn't Hosemann declared privately that he wants to run for LG?

That was before Thad's seat opened up, of course.  Hosemann also was planning on running for Senate in 2014 had Cochran retired then.  Last week when asked about his future plans, he didn't explicitly rule out running for Cochran's seat.
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« Reply #427 on: March 19, 2018, 04:47:30 PM »

I agree that Hosemann is the stronger candidate in both the primary and the GE. Tilt/Lean R if he beats McDaniel.

Safe R if its Hosemann vs. Espy

Likely R if McDaniel vs. Espy or Hosemann vs. Presley

Lean R if its McDaniel vs. Presley

A McDaniel vs Hosemann runoff is the hardest to handicap, but is probably Lean/Likely Hosemann.
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« Reply #428 on: March 19, 2018, 05:27:45 PM »

wouldn't mcdaniel just campaign that hosemann is too old like w/cochran, may work this time. hyde-smith could build seniority
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« Reply #429 on: March 19, 2018, 07:21:54 PM »

It's pretty unlikely that we see an R vs R runoff, assuming Democrats don't have more than 2 "major" candidates. I mean, I guess it would be 27-27-23-23 or something, but that would have to line up exactly right.
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« Reply #430 on: March 19, 2018, 09:39:29 PM »

I agree that Hosemann is the stronger candidate in both the primary and the GE. Tilt/Lean R if he beats McDaniel.

Safe R if its Hosemann vs. Espy

Likely R if McDaniel vs. Espy or Hosemann vs. Presley

Lean R if its McDaniel vs. Presley

A McDaniel vs Hosemann runoff is the hardest to handicap, but is probably Lean/Likely Hosemann.

Presley is leading McDaniel in a runoff.
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« Reply #431 on: March 19, 2018, 10:10:42 PM »

Welp, looks like it's Cindy Hyde-Smith.

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« Reply #432 on: March 19, 2018, 11:02:04 PM »


Likely R -> Lean R
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« Reply #433 on: March 19, 2018, 11:07:32 PM »


Hmm.. I would think she's the weaker of the 2
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« Reply #434 on: March 19, 2018, 11:09:41 PM »

How long until MS GOP starting asking Black voters to save them from McDaniel again?
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« Reply #435 on: March 19, 2018, 11:10:44 PM »

Still Likely R (and that's only because Espy is the most credible candidate Democrats have had since Ronnie Musgrove).

The race against Wicker meanwhile, is now Safe R...unless Hood or Baria jumps in...and even then it would be a very strong Likely R (for Baria) or Lean R (for Hood).
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« Reply #436 on: March 19, 2018, 11:31:03 PM »

And Mississippi Dems have to incentive to bail out Republicans this time by voting for Hyde-Smith.

McDaniel is personally viler than Trump and politically viler than Cruz. In the super unlikely R-R runoff scenario, McDaniel gets destroyed.
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« Reply #437 on: March 20, 2018, 06:33:26 AM »

Probably would be easier for McDaniel to beat than say Hosemann...so my opinion of this will depend on if Presley gets in or not.
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« Reply #438 on: March 20, 2018, 06:35:50 AM »

Phil Bryant is going to appoint a former democrat?

Seems like an easy person to attack for McDaniels
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« Reply #439 on: March 20, 2018, 06:37:45 AM »

Mississippi never elected a woman neither for congress, nor for governor.
Let's keep that in mind.
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« Reply #440 on: March 20, 2018, 06:47:34 AM »
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Still Likely R (and that's only because Espy is the most credible candidate Democrats have had since Ronnie Musgrove).

The race against Wicker meanwhile, is now Safe R...unless Hood or Baria jumps in...and even then it would be a very strong Likely R (for Baria) or Lean R (for Hood).

The deadline for Wicker's seat has already passed and Baria has already declared running against Wicker. It's pretty much all about the special now.

Phil Bryant is going to appoint a former democrat?

Seems like an easy person to attack for McDaniels

In addition to this, she switched pretty late. Most former Democrats switched during the '90s and '00s.
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« Reply #441 on: March 20, 2018, 07:36:08 AM »

The CHS pick is not one that I would have made.  I don't see how she's somebody that the vast majority of MS Republicans will be able to get behind, Bryant et. al will have to go very, very negative on McDaniel to win.  I think, in the end, Hosemann must not have wanted it.   
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« Reply #442 on: March 20, 2018, 08:02:35 AM »

Andy Taggart openly hinting on Twitter that he's going to jump in.

3 legitimate Republicans puts a D-D runoff in plausible territory. If we get a 4th, it becomes ... likely?
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« Reply #443 on: March 20, 2018, 08:14:01 AM »

Andy Taggart openly hinting on Twitter that he's going to jump in.

3 legitimate Republicans puts a D-D runoff in plausible territory. If we get a 4th, it becomes ... likely?

No, no it does not. Democrats have gotten an average of something like 35% of the vote in recent statewide elections. Even if the 2 Democrats and 3 Republicans split the vote perfectly (which is EXTREMELY unlikely) the Republicans would each get around 22% and the Democrats would get around 17.5%. And the far more likely scenario is that the appointed Senator + McDaniels vacuum up the vast majority of the Republican vote, which makes D vs. D virtually inconceivable no matter how many Republicans run.

A second credible Democrat getting in would make an R v. R matchup waaaaaaaaaaaay more likely than a D vs. D matchup.
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« Reply #444 on: March 20, 2018, 08:49:56 AM »

What happened to Stacy Pickering, anyways?
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« Reply #445 on: March 20, 2018, 08:51:11 AM »

Andy Taggart openly hinting on Twitter that he's going to jump in.

3 legitimate Republicans puts a D-D runoff in plausible territory. If we get a 4th, it becomes ... likely?

No, no it does not. Democrats have gotten an average of something like 35% of the vote in recent statewide elections. Even if the 2 Democrats and 3 Republicans split the vote perfectly (which is EXTREMELY unlikely) the Republicans would each get around 22% and the Democrats would get around 17.5%. And the far more likely scenario is that the appointed Senator + McDaniels vacuum up the vast majority of the Republican vote, which makes D vs. D virtually inconceivable no matter how many Republicans run.

A second credible Democrat getting in would make an R v. R matchup waaaaaaaaaaaay more likely than a D vs. D matchup.

35% is a particularly bad performance for a Democrat in Mississippi, not a baseline. 35% is what the random no-name no-money black candidates who sometimes win the nomination because no one else runs get.

Presley and Espy would easily combine into the mid 40s, not the mid 30s.
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« Reply #446 on: March 20, 2018, 09:03:10 AM »

Cindy Hyde-Smith's appointment is official:

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« Reply #447 on: March 20, 2018, 09:09:35 AM »

Cindy Hyde-Smith's appointment is official:



Seems like the perfect opponent from McDaniel's perspective.
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« Reply #448 on: March 20, 2018, 10:58:31 AM »

CHS had solid conservative record in Misssissippi legislature. More conservative then some "lifetime" Republicans. I can easily imagine her supporting McCain in general, but can't - neither Obama, nor Clinton (in primaries, as well as in general)..
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« Reply #449 on: March 20, 2018, 12:17:26 PM »

Is CHS a former Democrat or something?

Brandon Presely or Jim Hood need to get off their ass and run.
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