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bagelman
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« on: October 21, 2017, 11:22:59 PM »
« edited: December 14, 2020, 02:33:21 PM by bagelman »

Fusion states are not states combined together, they are states averaged together. As such if a strongly partisan state is fused with a swing state like mine, the result is that election result mirror the partisan state.

For example, the fusion of Alaska and Ohio only voted Dem once for the Lyndon Landslide.

1960: 52-48 R
64: 64-36 D
68: 45-43 R
72: 59-36 R
76: 53-42 R
80: 53-34 R

84: 63-35 R
88: 57-40 R
92: 39-35 R
96: 46-40 R
00: 54-37 R
04: 56-42 R
08: 53-45 R
12: 51-46 R
16: 51-40 R
20: 53-44 R


This state would be located in the mountains but also have some riverside industrial population centers.

Alaska and Hawaii is a tempting fusion pair. It creates a temperate island state in the Pacific (I'd love to live there!), and gives the following electoral results:

1960: 50-50 R
64: 72-28 D
68: 51-42 D
72: 60-36 R
76: 53-43 R
80: 49-36 R
84: 61-37 R
88: 52-45 R
92: 39-38 D
96: 45-41 D
00: 48-42 R
04: 53-45 R
08: 55-43 D
12: 56-41 D

16: 49-41 D
20: 53-44 D

There are 1225 fusion pairs for US states, per the equation ½(X²) − ½X where X=50. There are 1275 if DC is included.
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bagelman
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2017, 12:44:23 PM »
« Edited: December 14, 2020, 02:35:19 PM by bagelman »

Here's my attempt at making the fusion state of Texylvania:

1872: 51-47 R
76: 59-40 D
80: 56-37 D
84: 56-41 D
88: 55-39 D
92: 51-35 D
96: 52-46 D

1900: 50-46 D
04: 49-45 D

08: 55-41 D
12: 53-23-16 D (P>R)
16: 59-36 D

20: 45-43 R
24: 46-43 D
28: 59-41 R
32: 67-31 D
36: 72-27 D
40: 67-33 D
44: 61-33 D

48: 56-38 D
52: 53-47 R
56: 56-44 R

60: 51-49 D
64: 64-36 D
68: 44-42 D
72: 63-36 R
76: 51-48 D
80: 52-42 R
84: 58-41 R
88: 53-46 R

92: 41-38 D
96: 47-44 D

2000: 53-44 R
04: 55-45 R

08: 50-49 R
12: 52-47 R
16: 50-45 R
20: 50-48 R


1900 and 2008 are both rounded up 49.5%+ for the winning party. This state voted for the winner from 1928-1964 and again from 1972-2004.
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bagelman
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2017, 09:54:52 PM »
« Edited: December 14, 2020, 02:36:39 PM by bagelman »

Texafornia

1856: 57-33 D
1860: 52-16-16-16 South D (R narrowly in last place)
1872: 50-49 D (round up)
76: 60-40 D (round up)
80: 57-36 D
84: 57-40 D
88: 56-37 D
92: 50-32 D
96: 58-40 D
1900: 52-43 D
04: 49-42 D
08: 53-39 D
12: 57-25-12-5 D (P>Soc>R)
16: 62-32 D
20: 45-42 R
24: 41-38 D
28: 58-41 R
32: 73-24 D
36: 77-22 D
40: 69-30 D
44: 64-30 D
48: 57-36 D
52: 55-44 R
56: 55-44 R
60: 50-49 D
64: 61-39 D
68: 44-43 R
72: 61-37 R
76: 49-49 D
80: 54-39 R
84: 61-39 R
88: 54-45 R
92: 42-37 D
96: 47-43 D
2K: 50-46 R
04: 53-46 R
08: 52-46 D
12: 51-47 D
16: 52-42 D
20: 55-43 D


This former solid south state voted for the election winner every year from 1928-2012.
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bagelman
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2017, 08:19:23 PM »
« Edited: December 14, 2020, 02:39:28 PM by bagelman »


Ohiana:

1856: 47-44 D
60: 51-43 R
64: 56-45 R
68: 53-47 R
72: 53-43 R
76: 48.86-48.8 D
80: 51-47 R
84: 50-48 R (round up)
88: 49-48 R
92: 48-47 D
96: 51-48 R
1900: 51-46 R
04: 57-37 R
08: 50-46 R (round up)
12: 42-25-23 D (R>P)
16: 49-47 D
20: 57-40 R
24: 57-31 R
28: 62-37 R
32: 52-45 D
36: 57-40 D
40: 51-49 D
44: 51-48 R
48: 49.41-49.13 R
52: 57-42 R
56: 61-39 R
60: 54-46 R
64: 59-40 D
68: 48-40 R
72: 63-36 R
76: 51-47 R
80: 54-39 R
84: 60-39 R
88: 57-42 R
92: 41-38 R
96: 44.47-44.08 D
00: 53-44 R
04: 55-44 R
08: 51-48 D
12: 51-47 R
16: 54-40 R
20: 55-43 R

Illiana

1856: 47-40 D
60: 51-45 R
64: 54-46 R
68: 54-46 R
72: 55-45 R
76: 49-48 R
80: 50-46 R
84: 49-48 R
88: 49-48 R
92: 48-46 D
96: 53-45 R
1900: 52-46 R
04: 56-35 R
08: 51-43 R
12: 39-29-23 D (P>R)
16: 50-45 R
20: 61-33 R
24: 57-31 R
28: 58-41 R
32: 55-42 D
36: 57-41 D
40: 50-49.5 D
44: 50-49 R
48: 49.43-49.4 D
52: 56-43 R
56: 60-40 R (round up)
60: 52-47 R
64: 58-42 D
68: 49-41 R
72: 63-37 R
76: 52-47 R
80: 53-40 R
84: 59-40 R
88: 55-44 R
92: 43-39 D
96: 48-42 D
00: 50-48 R (round up)
04: 52-47 R
08: 56-43 D
12: 51-47 D
16: 47-46 R
20: 49.2-48.8 D

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bagelman
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,624
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2017, 08:52:35 PM »
« Edited: December 14, 2020, 02:40:52 PM by bagelman »

Alaska and Rhode Island fused

1960: 56-43 D
64: 73-27 D
68: 55-37 D
72: 56-41 R
76: 51-46 R

80: 46-37 R
84: 59-39 R
88: 52-46 R

92: 39-34 D
96: 46-39 D
2000: 45-44 R
04: 49.87-47 R

08: 50-47 D
12: 52-45 D

16: 45.48-45.09 D
20: 51-46 D
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bagelman
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,624
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Political Matrix
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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2020, 02:57:53 PM »

Michiana:

1856: 49-46 R
64: 54-46 R
68: 54-46 R
72: 58-41 R

76: 49.9-47 R
80: 51-43 R
84: 48.3-48.1 D
88: 49-47 R
92: 47-45 R

96: 52-46 R
1900: 54-43 R

04: 62-33 R
08: 55-40 R
12: 32-31-25 BM-D-R
16: 49.8-45 R
20: 64-31 R
24: 65-26 R
28: 65-34 R

32: 53.5-44 D
36: 56.5-40 D

40: 50-49 R
44: 51-48 R

48: 49.4-48.2 R
52: 57-42.5 R
56: 58-42 R
60: 52-48 R

64: 61-38 D
68: 46-43 R
72: 61-38 R
76: 52.5-46 R
80: 52.5-40 R

84: 60.5-39 R
88: 57-43 R
92: 40-39.5 D
96: 47-43 D

2K: 51-46 R
04: 54-45 R

08: 54-45 D
12: 49.3-48.9 R
16: 52-42 R
20: 52-46 R

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bagelman
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,624
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Political Matrix
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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2020, 03:15:59 PM »
« Edited: February 11, 2022, 05:15:37 PM by bagelman »

1864: 72-28 R
68: 69-31 R
72: 65-34 R

80: 55-39.5 R
84: 57-40 R
88: 59-37.5 R
92: 57.5-39 R

96: 66-32 R
00: 65-34 R
08: 64-32.5 R

12: 33-32-29 D-BM-R
16: 56-42 R
20: 65.5-33 R
24: 64-30 R
28: 63-37 R

32: 51-48 R
36: 52-48 D
40: 51-49 D

44: 51-49 R
48: 52-47 R
52: 60-40 R

56: 63-37 R


West Vermontia
1960: 53R-47D
1964: 33R-66D
1968: 47R-47D (barely R win)
1972: 63R-36D
1976: 48R-51D
1980: 45R-44D
1984: 57R-43D
1988: 49R-50D
1992: 33R-47D
1996: 34R-52D
2000: 46R-48D
2004: 47R-51D
2008: 43R-55D
2012: 47R-51D

2016: 49R-42D

2020: 49.3-48.9 R
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bagelman
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,624
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Political Matrix
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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2020, 03:44:15 PM »
« Edited: December 14, 2020, 03:52:15 PM by bagelman »

Verivare - The Green River state. VT+MS.

This is the best one. If you take nothing else from this thread, take this state!

1872: 70.9% R, 28.6% D
76: 50.1% R, 49.7% D
80: 49.8% R, 46.4% D
84: 51.1% R, 46.8% D

88: 49.7% D, 47.5% R
92: 52.7% D, 35.4% R
96: 53.8% D, 43.5% R
1900: 55.2% D, 42.7% R
04: 55% D, 42% R
08: 56% D, 40.8% R
12: 56.7% D, 20.7% BM, 19.8% R

16: 64% D, 33.7% R
20: 53.6% D, 44.9% R
24: 52.5% D, 42.9% R
28: 57.5% D, 42.4% R
Stark comparison to what one may expect.
32: 68.5% D, 30.6% R
36: 70.1% D, 29.6% R
40: 70.3% D, 29.5% R
The state gives a middle finger to those opposing a third term
44: 68.25% D, 31.75% R

48: 43.6% Southern D, 32.1% R, 23.5% Northern D. This issue of civil rights begins to loom large.
52: 55.5% R, 44.3% D
56: 48.3% R, 43% D
60: 41.7% R, 38.9% D

64: 60.4% R, 39.6% D
68: 33.31% AIP, 33.28% D, 33.1% R. Wow.
72: 70.4% R, 28.1% D
76: 51% R, 46.4% D
80: 46.9% R, 43.3% D
84: 59.9% R, 39.1% D


92: 43.4% D, 40.1% R
96: 48.7% D, 40.2% R

2K: 49.2% R, 45.7% D
04: 49.35% D, 49.12% R
08: 55.2% D, 43.3% R
12: 55.2% D, 43.1% R

16: 48.4% D, 44.1% R
20: 53.6% D, 44.1% R
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bagelman
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,624
United States


Political Matrix
E: -4.90, S: -4.17

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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2020, 08:35:04 PM »

The Isles of Zion

60: 52.4% GOP, 47.6% DEM
64: 66.8% DEM, 33.2% GOP
68: 48.5% DEM, 47.6% GOP
72: 65.1% GOP, 32% DEM
76: 55.25% GOP, 42.1% DEM
80: 57.8% GOP, 32.7% DEM

84: 64.8% GOP, 34.25% DEM
88: 55.5% GOP, 43.2% DEM
92: 40% GOP, 36.4% DEM
96: 45.1% DEM, 43% GOP
2K: 52.2% GOP, 41.1% DEM
04: 58.4% GOP, 40% DEM

08: 53% DEM, 44.4% GOP
12: 50.2% GOP, 47.6% DEM
16: 44.7% DEM, 37.6% GOP
20: 50.5% DEM, 45.9% GOP

A fearsomely elastic state, this is a pacific archipelago inhabited by Polynesians before being settled by exiles from the United States. These exiles imposed an oppressive theocracy on the natives before the US navy intervened, partially to get the jump on the British.
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bagelman
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2020, 12:21:00 PM »

may as well just post directly from the spreadsheet

MA+SD, a McGovern '72 -> Trump '16 state. This is an upper midwestern state that's almost Canadian.

dem         gop   
50.61%   46.96%   2020
45.88%   47.17%   2016
50.27%   47.71%   2012
53.28%   44.58%   2008
50.19%   48.35%   2004
48.68%   46.40%   2000
52.25%   37.29%   1996
42.34%   34.85%   1992
49.87%   49.11%   1988
42.48%   57.11%   1984
36.72%   51.22%   1980
52.51%   45.42%   1976
49.86%   49.69%   1972
52.49%   43.08%   1968
65.90%   33.92%   1964
51.01%   48.88%   1960
40.99%   58.86%   1956
38.10%   61.75%   1952
50.85%   47.50%   1948
47.24%   52.66%   1944
47.85%   51.89%   1940
52.62%   42.13%   1936
57.13%   40.52%   1932
44.72%   54.67%   1928
19.11%   55.98%   1924
23.78%   64.65%   1920
46.26%   50.17%   1916
38.80%   15.98%   1912
34.56%   58.53%   1908
29.46%   64.51%   1904
39.50%   57.16%   1900
38.01%   59.48%   1896
29.05%   50.68%   1892

Roosevelt 1912 narrowly wins over Wilson with 39.85% of the vote
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bagelman
Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2020, 12:46:40 PM »


WN

dem         gop
50.93%   47.05%   2020
46.45%   46.08%   2016
52.74%   45.43%   2012
55.14%   43.07%   2008
50.40%   48.47%   2004
47.87%   46.56%   2000
49.96%   36.72%   1996
42.31%   34.32%   1992
52.16%   46.85%   1988
47.37%   51.87%   1984
44.84%   45.23%   1980
52.20%   44.93%   1976
44.90%   52.49%   1972
49.14%   44.68%   1968
62.93%   36.87%   1964
49.32%   50.47%   1960
41.96%   57.63%   1956
41.41%   58.14%   1952
53.93%   43.09%   1948
50.49%   48.62%   1944
50.82%   47.99%   1940
62.82%   30.64%   1936
61.69%   33.74%   1932
42.56%   55.65%   1928
07.45%   44.12%   1924
17.80%   70.85%   1920
44.53%   47.87%   1916
36.45%   25.95%   1912
34.85%   56.82%   1908
23.43%   68.60%   1904
35.83%   60.14%   1900
38.95%   58.28%   1896
42.74%   46.01%   1892
41.71%   51.96%   1888
41.33%   54.58%   1884
39.14%   58.16%   1880
43.68%   54.69%   1876
41.85%   57.94%   1872
41.44%   58.57%   1868
42.53%   57.47%   1864
38.52%   60.06%   1860

LaFollette wins in 1924 with 47.61% of the vote

PK

dem         gop
43.02%   55.40%   2020
40.07%   55.35%   2016
44.87%   53.52%   2012
47.81%   50.76%   2008
45.30%   53.98%   2004
45.99%   51.47%   2000
47.51%   42.43%   1996
44.85%   38.74%   1992
46.14%   53.11%   1988
42.68%   56.69%   1984
45.05%   49.33%   1980
51.58%   46.65%   1976
36.95%   61.24%   1972
42.62%   43.91%   1968
64.47%   35.18%   1964
48.74%   51.17%   1960
44.26%   55.40%   1956
48.38%   51.29%   1952
51.83%   46.21%   1948
52.80%   46.79%   1944
55.34%   44.32%   1940
57.70%   40.38%   1936
52.20%   45.50%   1932
37.19%   62.30%   1928
32.53%   57.14%   1924
38.45%   57.51%   1920
46.07%   50.38%   1916
40.45%   23.96%   1912
42.58%   53.44%   1908
38.58%   57.57%   1904
43.19%   54.63%   1900
42.57%   54.96%   1896
48.29%   45.60%   1892
49.04%   48.86%   1888
49.39%   47.95%   1884
51.16%   45.36%   1880
54.83%   44.03%   1876
44.99%   54.26%   1872
61.18%   38.83%   1868
59.04%   40.96%   1864


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bagelman
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,624
United States


Political Matrix
E: -4.90, S: -4.17

P P P
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2020, 05:12:16 PM »


[snip]

In other words, this fusion is literally just Ohio. It voted the same way as Ohio since 1960, and with either the same or very close margins. NM is just too small and not partisan enough to make a real difference. The most notable election is 1976, when New Mexico's Republican lean meant the state came down to less than 1000 votes. But even if Ford had carried New Mexicohio, Carter would still have enough electoral votes to win.

Fusion states are not states combined together, they are states averaged together.

New Erie (NM + OH)

Negative margins are DEM, positive ones GOP.

dem          gop      
49.73%   48.34%   2020   -1.39%
45.75%   45.68%   2016   -0.08%
51.79%   45.22%   2012   -6.57%
54.15%   44.29%   2008   -9.86%
48.88%   50.33%   2004   1.45%
47.19%   48.91%   2000   1.73%
48.28%   41.44%   1996   -6.84%
43.04%   37.85%   1992   -5.20%
45.53%   53.43%   1988   7.91%
39.69%   59.30%   1984   19.62%
38.85%   53.24%   1980   14.40%
48.60%   49.70%   1976   1.10%
37.32%   60.34%   1972   23.03%
41.35%   48.54%   1968   7.19%
61.08%   38.65%   1964   -22.43%
48.44%   51.35%   1960   2.91%
40.34%   59.46%   1956   19.13%
43.76%   56.08%   1952   12.32%
52.93%   46.09%   1948   -6.85%
51.65%   48.31%   1944   -3.34%
54.40%   45.54%   1940   -8.86%
60.34%   36.97%   1936   -23.37%
56.30%   41.40%   1932   -14.91%
37.65%   61.95%   1928   24.30%
33.36%   53.43%   1924   20.07%
41.43%   56.58%   1920   15.15%
51.03%   45.41%   1916   -5.62%
41.18%   31.37%   1912   -9.81%

This state is just Ohio if you simply combine OTL states, but becomes something different if you "fuse" them. It's like mixing paint, if you have a small dollop of white paint and a whole can of red paint, you make pink by just taking a little red from the can.
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