OH-12 Special Election: Balderson vs. O’Connor on August 7
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« Reply #275 on: July 23, 2018, 12:02:27 PM »

Potentially worth noting: Zack Space represented Licking County in Congress from '07 - '11 and won his share both times.
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« Reply #276 on: July 23, 2018, 02:23:53 PM »

Interesting numbers from Dave Wasserman:

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« Reply #277 on: July 23, 2018, 03:52:50 PM »

Here is today's update. I'll be trying to get an update from Morrow County at some point this week. Also, there have been small inconsistencies with Marion County's data but hopefully they should be worked out at this point:

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« Reply #278 on: July 23, 2018, 03:59:48 PM »

I do not profess to know enough about Ohio or this district to have an answer to that question.

I hope I'm not the only one here who remembers when Flawless Beautiful Ossoff was up 80-20% in the early vote results.
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« Reply #279 on: July 23, 2018, 04:02:55 PM »

Yeah, I wouldn't read too much in early voting numbers at this point. EV looked great for Democrats in both 2014 and 2016, and we all know how it ended.

Yea I remember the so called experts being very bullish on Democrats in Florida in 2016.

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« Reply #280 on: July 23, 2018, 04:04:59 PM »

Here is today's update. I'll be trying to get an update from Morrow County at some point this week. Also, there have been small inconsistencies with Marion County's data but hopefully they should be worked out at this point:



Dems overall decrease, Reps increase, by around 2%. For O'Connor to win, he needs to stay above 60% overall and win each county by these margins.

Franklin: 65%
Delaware: 48%
Licking: 41%
Richland: 41%
Muskingum: 41%
Morrow: 29%
Marion: 30%

So far, hes doing it, but its early, and we have no idea how the vote is actually going. I think the others and a bit of reps are voting for O'Connor(this is by registration), but thats just me.
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« Reply #281 on: July 23, 2018, 04:14:25 PM »

Was today a big vote dump?
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« Reply #282 on: July 23, 2018, 04:14:49 PM »

I think something to watch over the next 12 days of absentee voting is what Franklin County's share of it ends up being. Currently it is sitting at 42%, despite the fact that Franklin County only contains 28% of the district's population. Delaware is sitting at 26% and Licking at 15.7%, compared tot  he 27% and 21% of the electorate they usually amount to. Franklin was 32% of the electorate in 2016 but they are certainly punching even above that at this point.
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« Reply #283 on: July 23, 2018, 04:15:46 PM »

Yes, relative to previous days, just under 1300 votes.
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« Reply #284 on: July 23, 2018, 08:56:33 PM »

O'Connor won't get 48% in Delaware County.
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« Reply #285 on: July 23, 2018, 09:18:01 PM »

O'Connor won't get 48% in Delaware County.
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« Reply #286 on: July 23, 2018, 09:37:27 PM »

It's a turnout and enthusiasm game so he could meet a reasonable benchmark to win. I could see O'Connor doing somewhat better than the set benchmark in Muskingum which is a county where Obama hit 45% in. With good enthusiasm and turnout he can win this race.
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« Reply #287 on: July 23, 2018, 09:38:48 PM »

It's a turnout and enthusiasm game so he could meet a reasonable benchmark to win. I could see O'Connor doing somewhat better than the set benchmark in Muskingum which is a county where Obama hit 45% in. With good enthusiasm and turnout he can win this race.

Balderson is from Muskingum County.
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« Reply #288 on: July 23, 2018, 09:39:58 PM »

Realistically O'Connor prolly gets mid to high thirties in Muskawhatever county.
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« Reply #289 on: July 23, 2018, 09:43:24 PM »

It's a turnout and enthusiasm game so he could meet a reasonable benchmark to win. I could see O'Connor doing somewhat better than the set benchmark in Muskingum which is a county where Obama hit 45% in. With good enthusiasm and turnout he can win this race.

Balderson is from Muskingum County.

So? Being from a particular county doesn't always guarantee a home advantage in this sort of environment.
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« Reply #290 on: July 23, 2018, 09:47:39 PM »

Realistically O'Connor prolly gets mid to high thirties in Muskawhatever county.

I don't know why you are pessimistic, Cordray and OConnor need each other. If OConnor wins, it wilk help Cordray and Dems can undo the unfair GOP gerrymandering
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« Reply #291 on: July 23, 2018, 09:52:21 PM »

Realistically O'Connor prolly gets mid to high thirties in Muskawhatever county.

I don't know why you are pessimistic, Cordray and OConnor need each other. If OConnor wins, it wilk help Cordray and Dems can undo the unfair GOP gerrymandering

O'Connor won't win. If I am wrong I will be to busy celebrating to care I was wrong which I will freely admit.
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« Reply #292 on: July 23, 2018, 09:54:05 PM »

It's a turnout and enthusiasm game so he could meet a reasonable benchmark to win. I could see O'Connor doing somewhat better than the set benchmark in Muskingum which is a county where Obama hit 45% in. With good enthusiasm and turnout he can win this race.

Balderson is from Muskingum County.

So? Being from a particular county doesn't always guarantee a home advantage in this sort of environment.

It doesn't always, but regionalism is very strong in Ohio. O'Connor might do better than the benchmark in Licking, maybe even Richland. But Muskingum would be a jaw-dropping surprise.
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« Reply #293 on: July 23, 2018, 11:12:47 PM »

Realistically O'Connor prolly gets mid to high thirties in Muskawhatever county.

I don't know why you are pessimistic, Cordray and OConnor need each other. If OConnor wins, it wilk help Cordray and Dems can undo the unfair GOP gerrymandering

O'Connor won't win. If I am wrong I will be to busy celebrating to care I was wrong which I will freely admit.

I hope he wins, in an upset
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« Reply #294 on: July 24, 2018, 12:50:40 AM »

The typical pattern in Ohio general elections is for the early vote as a whole to be ~5-10ish% more Dem than election day vote and postal ballots to be closer 20% more Republican than the election day vote. The fact that this is a special could make those numbers vary wildly. No idea about earlier early votes vs later early votes.
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« Reply #295 on: July 24, 2018, 09:15:09 AM »

The typical pattern in Ohio general elections is for the early vote as a whole to be ~5-10ish% more Dem than election day vote and postal ballots to be closer 20% more Republican than the election day vote. The fact that this is a special could make those numbers vary wildly. No idea about earlier early votes vs later early votes.

Which is why O'Connor needs to win the early vote by at least 20% to win... and for the rate of early voting to roughly match what it would be for a typical general election in Ohio.
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« Reply #296 on: July 24, 2018, 03:43:08 PM »

The typical pattern in Ohio general elections is for the early vote as a whole to be ~5-10ish% more Dem than election day vote and postal ballots to be closer 20% more Republican than the election day vote. The fact that this is a special could make those numbers vary wildly. No idea about earlier early votes vs later early votes.

Which is why O'Connor needs to win the early vote by at least 20% to win... and for the rate of early voting to roughly match what it would be for a typical general election in Ohio.

So far, its a margin of 30%. Do you think its likely to go down from here, are go up, or stay the same?
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« Reply #297 on: July 24, 2018, 06:30:04 PM »

The typical pattern in Ohio general elections is for the early vote as a whole to be ~5-10ish% more Dem than election day vote and postal ballots to be closer 20% more Republican than the election day vote. The fact that this is a special could make those numbers vary wildly. No idea about earlier early votes vs later early votes.

Which is why O'Connor needs to win the early vote by at least 20% to win... and for the rate of early voting to roughly match what it would be for a typical general election in Ohio.

So far, its a margin of 30%. Do you think its likely to go down from here, are go up, or stay the same?

The latest numbers I've seen indicate a 24% lead and it's been doing down from a high of 26%. It should continue to slowly drop down. FTR, early voting matching past record looks like something in between 30% and 40% of the total votes.

So if O'Connor is leading by 20%+ at the end of early voting and somewhere in between 33k and 44k people vote early, he has a path to victory.
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« Reply #298 on: July 24, 2018, 06:35:48 PM »

O'Connor was just on Hardball
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« Reply #299 on: July 24, 2018, 08:35:12 PM »



Today's update, and though Dem vote share decreased slightly, I think today was actually better for the Dems than yesterday.
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