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« on: August 22, 2018, 12:09:31 PM »

It seems like Mary Glassman would win the Democratic nomination in Connecticut's Fifth District due to her name recognition and a strong backing by Democratic pols. What happened?
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2018, 01:15:08 PM »

Jahana Hayes, if I recall correctly, received a lot of outside endorsements, plus she doesn't have a political background. I'm not surprised Glassman lost.
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2018, 01:26:45 PM »

Jahana Hayes, if I recall correctly, received a lot of outside endorsements, plus she doesn't have a political background. I'm not surprised Glassman lost.

Why are you not surprised?

Mary Glassman has a long political background. When I first heard of the name Jahana Hayes, I was thinking "Who?".
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2018, 02:22:01 PM »

She barely won the party endorsement, and Hayes was Chris Murphy’s (aka, the most powerful Democrat on the state’s) handpicked candidate.
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2018, 03:10:04 PM »

I thought Jahana Hayes would win because my Connecticut friend was really excited for her and found her backstory compelling. She also only barely missed winning the endorsement when her campaign was a mere few weeks old.
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2018, 03:13:15 PM »

She had Chris Murphy’s support (perhaps the most popular politician in the state), and her story is amazing. People love teachers, and she was the national teacher of the year.
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2018, 03:25:05 PM »

Because she was the better candidate even more accounting for Murphy’s support
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2018, 05:58:04 PM »

Dynanism prevailed.
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2018, 10:56:03 PM »

Jahana Hayes, if I recall correctly, received a lot of outside endorsements, plus she doesn't have a political background. I'm not surprised Glassman lost.

Why are you not surprised?

Mary Glassman has a long political background. When I first heard of the name Jahana Hayes, I was thinking "Who?".

Based on news reports I was seeing, Glassman wasn't getting any publicity, but Hayes was. That's why it didn't surprise me.
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2018, 08:02:26 AM »

2018 is proving to be a perfect cycle for first time candidates, with compelling backstories.

Besides, from a very outside perspective Glassman looks like the definition of a rather average state wide politician (with a list of failed bids for higher office)
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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2018, 08:59:24 AM »

She barely won the party endorsement, and Hayes was Chris Murphy’s (aka, the most powerful Democrat on the state’s) handpicked candidate.

What's your own take on Jahana?

Classic example of how "progressive" in no way means left wing. Or anything at all, really.

I mean I guess it's unfair to say that she's definitively not a lefty, since she hasn't really *said * anything yet. But given that Murphy likes her she's probably safely a center-left-liberal.
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2018, 09:03:46 AM »

I thought Jahana Hayes would win because my Connecticut friend was really excited for her and found her backstory compelling. She also only barely missed winning the endorsement when her campaign was a mere few weeks old.

To be fair, Glassman's campaign was also only a few weeks old; Esty decided not to run for reelection pretty late in the game due to her scandal.
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2018, 10:35:45 AM »

She barely won the party endorsement, and Hayes was Chris Murphy’s (aka, the most powerful Democrat on the state’s) handpicked candidate.

What's your own take on Jahana?

Classic example of how "progressive" in no way means left wing. Or anything at all, really.

I mean I guess it's unfair to say that she's definitively not a lefty, since she hasn't really *said * anything yet. But given that Murphy likes her she's probably safely a center-left-liberal.
She is pretty progressive, actually, and she was invited into the CPC. Compared to Glassman, who campaigned on winning in "Red areas" by "reaching across the aisle". She was the most Left candidate in the race, and is a solid progressive.

Anyway, the reason Glassman lost in CT-05 is because of a three of factors.

1. Her campaigning- Compared to Hayes, Glassman was low energy. Her message could be summed down to "Im the only one who can win a red district like this" which fell on mostly deaf ears. Hayes was talking about education and her backstory, while Glassman wanted to "reach across the aisle".

2. Support- Hayes was supported by many people and groups. The senators Murphy and Harris, multiple progressive groups, among others. Glassman had barely anyone in her corner.

3. Hayes- Hayes had a lot of things going for her. She would be the first AA from CT, she was the teacher of the year, presented to her by Obama, she was a teacher. She just had a more compelling story than Glassman.
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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2018, 03:08:09 PM »

She barely won the party endorsement, and Hayes was Chris Murphy’s (aka, the most powerful Democrat on the state’s) handpicked candidate.

What's your own take on Jahana?

Classic example of how "progressive" in no way means left wing. Or anything at all, really.

I mean I guess it's unfair to say that she's definitively not a lefty, since she hasn't really *said * anything yet. But given that Murphy likes her she's probably safely a center-left-liberal.
She is pretty progressive, actually, and she was invited into the CPC. Compared to Glassman, who campaigned on winning in "Red areas" by "reaching across the aisle". She was the most Left candidate in the race, and is a solid progressive.

Anyway, the reason Glassman lost in CT-05 is because of a three of factors.

1. Her campaigning- Compared to Hayes, Glassman was low energy. Her message could be summed down to "Im the only one who can win a red district like this" which fell on mostly deaf ears. Hayes was talking about education and her backstory, while Glassman wanted to "reach across the aisle".

2. Support- Hayes was supported by many people and groups. The senators Murphy and Harris, multiple progressive groups, among others. Glassman had barely anyone in her corner.

3. Hayes- Hayes had a lot of things going for her. She would be the first AA from CT, she was the teacher of the year, presented to her by Obama, she was a teacher. She just had a more compelling story than Glassman.

The CPC has Andre Carson and Ted Lieu in it, lol. It doesn't mean anything. Neither does being the "leftmost" candidate in CT. I'll believe it when I see votes, for now her campaign was mostly platitudes and personal dynamism.
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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2018, 04:40:10 PM »

She barely won the party endorsement, and Hayes was Chris Murphy’s (aka, the most powerful Democrat on the state’s) handpicked candidate.

What's your own take on Jahana?

Classic example of how "progressive" in no way means left wing. Or anything at all, really.

I mean I guess it's unfair to say that she's definitively not a lefty, since she hasn't really *said * anything yet. But given that Murphy likes her she's probably safely a center-left-liberal.
She is pretty progressive, actually, and she was invited into the CPC. Compared to Glassman, who campaigned on winning in "Red areas" by "reaching across the aisle". She was the most Left candidate in the race, and is a solid progressive.

Anyway, the reason Glassman lost in CT-05 is because of a three of factors.

1. Her campaigning- Compared to Hayes, Glassman was low energy. Her message could be summed down to "Im the only one who can win a red district like this" which fell on mostly deaf ears. Hayes was talking about education and her backstory, while Glassman wanted to "reach across the aisle".

2. Support- Hayes was supported by many people and groups. The senators Murphy and Harris, multiple progressive groups, among others. Glassman had barely anyone in her corner.

3. Hayes- Hayes had a lot of things going for her. She would be the first AA from CT, she was the teacher of the year, presented to her by Obama, she was a teacher. She just had a more compelling story than Glassman.

The CPC has Andre Carson and Ted Lieu in it, lol. It doesn't mean anything. Neither does being the "leftmost" candidate in CT. I'll believe it when I see votes, for now her campaign was mostly platitudes and personal dynamism.
Yes, the CPC has different ideologies in it. It represents the Left of the Democrats, and that includes left moderates like Ted, and Social Democrats, with the DSA congresswomen likely to join. What is true is that she ran her campaign on progressive issues and her history as a teacher, while her opponent ran on bridging the partisan gap. This district has also always produced moderates, and never progressives, so even if she turns out to be a Ted, she still would be the most left congressperson ever from CT-05.

Anyway, I see her as a default progressive, not a DSA nor a Ted, so thats a pretty good development considering she replaces a New Dem, and one of the most moderate members of the D caucus.
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2018, 11:12:29 AM »

She barely won the party endorsement, and Hayes was Chris Murphy’s (aka, the most powerful Democrat on the state’s) handpicked candidate.

What's your own take on Jahana?

Classic example of how "progressive" in no way means left wing. Or anything at all, really.

I mean I guess it's unfair to say that she's definitively not a lefty, since she hasn't really *said * anything yet. But given that Murphy likes her she's probably safely a center-left-liberal.
She is pretty progressive, actually, and she was invited into the CPC. Compared to Glassman, who campaigned on winning in "Red areas" by "reaching across the aisle". She was the most Left candidate in the race, and is a solid progressive.

Anyway, the reason Glassman lost in CT-05 is because of a three of factors.

1. Her campaigning- Compared to Hayes, Glassman was low energy. Her message could be summed down to "Im the only one who can win a red district like this" which fell on mostly deaf ears. Hayes was talking about education and her backstory, while Glassman wanted to "reach across the aisle".

2. Support- Hayes was supported by many people and groups. The senators Murphy and Harris, multiple progressive groups, among others. Glassman had barely anyone in her corner.

3. Hayes- Hayes had a lot of things going for her. She would be the first AA from CT, she was the teacher of the year, presented to her by Obama, she was a teacher. She just had a more compelling story than Glassman.

The CPC has Andre Carson and Ted Lieu in it, lol. It doesn't mean anything. Neither does being the "leftmost" candidate in CT. I'll believe it when I see votes, for now her campaign was mostly platitudes and personal dynamism.
Yes, the CPC has different ideologies in it. It represents the Left of the Democrats, and that includes left moderates like Ted, and Social Democrats, with the DSA congresswomen likely to join. What is true is that she ran her campaign on progressive issues and her history as a teacher, while her opponent ran on bridging the partisan gap. This district has also always produced moderates, and never progressives, so even if she turns out to be a Ted, she still would be the most left congressperson ever from CT-05.

Anyway, I see her as a default progressive, not a DSA nor a Ted, so thats a pretty good development considering she replaces a New Dem, and one of the most moderate members of the D caucus.

Huh Huh Huh

"It is the Left of the Democrats, including people who represent socially liberal fiscally conservative districts and are owned by property developers."

Anyway.

I'm waiting to see the votes ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2018, 07:34:40 PM »

She barely won the party endorsement, and Hayes was Chris Murphy’s (aka, the most powerful Democrat on the state’s) handpicked candidate.

What's your own take on Jahana?

Classic example of how "progressive" in no way means left wing. Or anything at all, really.

I mean I guess it's unfair to say that she's definitively not a lefty, since she hasn't really *said * anything yet. But given that Murphy likes her she's probably safely a center-left-liberal.
She is pretty progressive, actually, and she was invited into the CPC. Compared to Glassman, who campaigned on winning in "Red areas" by "reaching across the aisle". She was the most Left candidate in the race, and is a solid progressive.

Anyway, the reason Glassman lost in CT-05 is because of a three of factors.

1. Her campaigning- Compared to Hayes, Glassman was low energy. Her message could be summed down to "Im the only one who can win a red district like this" which fell on mostly deaf ears. Hayes was talking about education and her backstory, while Glassman wanted to "reach across the aisle".

2. Support- Hayes was supported by many people and groups. The senators Murphy and Harris, multiple progressive groups, among others. Glassman had barely anyone in her corner.

3. Hayes- Hayes had a lot of things going for her. She would be the first AA from CT, she was the teacher of the year, presented to her by Obama, she was a teacher. She just had a more compelling story than Glassman.

The CPC has Andre Carson and Ted Lieu in it, lol. It doesn't mean anything. Neither does being the "leftmost" candidate in CT. I'll believe it when I see votes, for now her campaign was mostly platitudes and personal dynamism.
Yes, the CPC has different ideologies in it. It represents the Left of the Democrats, and that includes left moderates like Ted, and Social Democrats, with the DSA congresswomen likely to join. What is true is that she ran her campaign on progressive issues and her history as a teacher, while her opponent ran on bridging the partisan gap. This district has also always produced moderates, and never progressives, so even if she turns out to be a Ted, she still would be the most left congressperson ever from CT-05.

Anyway, I see her as a default progressive, not a DSA nor a Ted, so thats a pretty good development considering she replaces a New Dem, and one of the most moderate members of the D caucus.

Huh Huh Huh

"It is the Left of the Democrats, including people who represent socially liberal fiscally conservative districts and are owned by property developers."

Anyway.

I'm waiting to see the votes ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Well, the Democratic Party is a big tent. It has its conservatives, moderates, liberals, and socialists. And, like the D party, its caucuses are rather big tent as well. The CPC has social democrats, socialists(it was created by Sanders) and moderates. So far, Hayes has been rather progressive, so I see her in the center of the group.
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