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« Reply #1125 on: December 01, 2017, 03:59:06 PM »
McCaskill hints that she was able to get a list of the amendments in the bill via lobbyists. Does anyone here have access to that list?
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« Reply #1126 on: December 01, 2017, 04:03:05 PM »
Several Democrats just had a discussion with the parliamentarian for several minutes. We're not aware of exactly what was discussed.
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« Reply #1127 on: December 01, 2017, 04:05:36 PM »
Susan Collins has a verbal promise from McConnell with a transcript to pass Alexander-Murray. So theres that...
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« Reply #1128 on: December 01, 2017, 04:06:15 PM »
Quote from: superbudgie1582 on December 01, 2017, 04:05:36 PM
Susan Collins has a verbal promise from McConnell with a transcript to pass Alexander-Murray. So theres that...

A verbal promise from the Turtle means nothing...
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« Reply #1129 on: December 01, 2017, 04:06:29 PM »
Quote from: superbudgie1582 on December 01, 2017, 04:05:36 PM
Susan Collins has a verbal promise from McConnell with a transcript to pass Alexander-Murray. So theres that...

As the old saying goes, a verbal promise isn't worth the paper it's printed on.
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« Reply #1130 on: December 01, 2017, 04:06:35 PM »
Well it appears Democrats are done offering those stupid motions to recommit. Only took 8 attempts.
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« Reply #1131 on: December 01, 2017, 04:08:30 PM »
Quote from: Dwarven Dragon on December 01, 2017, 04:06:35 PM
Well it appears Democrats are done offering those stupid motions to recommit. Only took 8 attempts.

Please offer Rubio-Lee.
Please offer Rubio-Lee.
Please offer Rubio-Lee.
Please offer Rubio-Lee.
Please offer Rubio-Lee.
Please offer Rubio-Lee.

Make them vote against it! And while you're at it, try reintroducing education + healthcare deductions and force them to vote it down too!
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« Reply #1132 on: December 01, 2017, 04:12:44 PM »
This bill also still has to go to conference. If Collins amendments are all stripped out, I could see her voting no on the new bill. If Corker votes no tonight, then he'll probably vote no on the conference'd bill. I'm trying to figure out who the third no vote would come from.
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« Reply #1133 on: December 01, 2017, 04:13:14 PM »
Susan Collins is officially a yes

Does the Alabama race even matter now regarding tax reform?
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« Reply #1134 on: December 01, 2017, 04:13:41 PM »
Quote from: marty on December 01, 2017, 04:13:14 PM
Susan Collins is officially a yes

Does the Alabama race even matter now regarding tax reform?

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Quote from: superbudgie1582 on December 01, 2017, 04:12:44 PM
This bill also still has to go to conference. If Collins amendments are all stripped out, I could see her voting no on the new bill. If Corker votes no tonight, then he'll probably vote no on the conference'd bill. I'm trying to figure out who the third no vote would come from.

Doug Jones would make it three.
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« Reply #1135 on: December 01, 2017, 04:14:06 PM »
Quote from: marty on December 01, 2017, 04:13:14 PM
Susan Collins is officially a yes

Does the Alabama race even matter now regarding tax reform?

Collins was a no until the checks cleared
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« Reply #1136 on: December 01, 2017, 04:14:32 PM »
Quote from: marty on December 01, 2017, 04:13:14 PM
Susan Collins is officially a yes

Does the Alabama race even matter now regarding tax reform?

Like I said, the bill still has to go to conference. If it comes out with all of Collins amendments stripped, then her yes vote could be in jeopardy.
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« Reply #1137 on: December 01, 2017, 04:15:05 PM »
If enough Democrat Senators played the delay game regarding throwing votes in to send the bill back to committee, then we would have had a real shot at delaying the bill until McCain had to go back to Arizona continue his cancer treatments, which would have costed the Republicans a yes vote.
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« Reply #1138 on: December 01, 2017, 04:15:51 PM »
Quote from: Solid4096 on December 01, 2017, 04:15:05 PM
If enough Democrat Senators played the delay game regarding throwing votes in to send the bill back to committee, then we would have had a real shot at delaying the bill until McCain had to go back to Arizona continue his cancer treatments, which would have costed the Republicans a yes vote.

You do realize how underhanded the Democrats would have looked doing that, right?
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« Reply #1139 on: December 01, 2017, 04:15:55 PM »
Quote from: marty on December 01, 2017, 04:13:14 PM
Susan Collins is officially a yes

Does the Alabama race even matter now regarding tax reform?

Democratic pickup in Maine confirmed for 2020.

Yes to the latter, if Doug Jones were to win (and Corker votes no) then Pence pushing this through would be a bad look.
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« Reply #1140 on: December 01, 2017, 04:19:04 PM »
https://mobile.twitter.com/seungminkim/status/936705353483513856


Um, WHY?

You want to unite the public against this tax bill and so at the height of the debate you decide to go with Frankenstein of all people?
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« Reply #1141 on: December 01, 2017, 04:20:11 PM »
Quote from: Biden/Kander 2020 on December 01, 2017, 04:19:04 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/seungminkim/status/936705353483513856


Um, WHY?

You want to unite the public against this tax bill and so at the height of the debate you decide to go with Frankenstein of all people?

"Collins better vote no or I'll grope her"
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« Reply #1142 on: December 01, 2017, 04:22:03 PM »
DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THE DEMOCRATS ARE PLANNING TO OFFER ANY ACTUAL AMENDMENTS?
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« Reply #1143 on: December 01, 2017, 04:22:35 PM »
Quote from: Biden/Kander 2020 on December 01, 2017, 04:08:30 PM
Quote from: Dwarven Dragon on December 01, 2017, 04:06:35 PM
Well it appears Democrats are done offering those stupid motions to recommit. Only took 8 attempts.

Please offer Rubio-Lee.
Please offer Rubio-Lee.
Please offer Rubio-Lee.
Please offer Rubio-Lee.
Please offer Rubio-Lee.
Please offer Rubio-Lee.

Make them vote against it! And while you're at it, try reintroducing education + healthcare deductions and force them to vote it down too!

Ew. Don't offer Rubio-Lee. It's horrible policy.
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« Reply #1144 on: December 01, 2017, 04:22:42 PM »
Quote from: Biden/Kander 2020 on December 01, 2017, 04:19:04 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/seungminkim/status/936705353483513856


Um, WHY?

You want to unite the public against this tax bill and so at the height of the debate you decide to go with Frankenstein of all people?

The two are completely unrelated

A senator has a right to voice his objections
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« Reply #1145 on: December 01, 2017, 04:25:16 PM »
Quote from: Nick Saban would beat Roy Moore in a Senate race on December 01, 2017, 04:22:35 PM
Quote from: Biden/Kander 2020 on December 01, 2017, 04:08:30 PM
Quote from: Dwarven Dragon on December 01, 2017, 04:06:35 PM
Well it appears Democrats are done offering those stupid motions to recommit. Only took 8 attempts.

Please offer Rubio-Lee.
Please offer Rubio-Lee.
Please offer Rubio-Lee.
Please offer Rubio-Lee.
Please offer Rubio-Lee.
Please offer Rubio-Lee.

Make them vote against it! And while you're at it, try reintroducing education + healthcare deductions and force them to vote it down too!

Ew. Don't offer Rubio-Lee. It's horrible policy.

Not saying they have to vote for it. Just get GOPers on the record against it. And as many other things as possible.
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« Reply #1146 on: December 01, 2017, 04:28:52 PM »
McConnell and Ryan have come out in favor of ending the Paygo cuts that will hurt entitlement programs  due to the tax bill.

https://twitter.com/sangerkatz/status/936705307220283392

I hope they follow through with this.
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« Reply #1147 on: December 01, 2017, 04:37:55 PM »
This thread seems to have slowed a bit

Will get crazy tonight
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« Reply #1148 on: December 01, 2017, 04:42:58 PM »
Quote from: Biden/Kander 2020 on December 01, 2017, 04:15:51 PM
Quote from: Solid4096 on December 01, 2017, 04:15:05 PM
If enough Democrat Senators played the delay game regarding throwing votes in to send the bill back to committee, then we would have had a real shot at delaying the bill until McCain had to go back to Arizona continue his cancer treatments, which would have costed the Republicans a yes vote.

You do realize how underhanded the Democrats would have looked doing that, right?

You realize how nonexistent voter's long term memory is right?
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« Reply #1149 on: December 01, 2017, 04:43:51 PM »
The only question right now seems to be whether this passes with 52 or 51 votes, with or without Corker.
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