German Federal Election - Sept. 24 - Results Thread

[jaichind]

I always figured that CDU/CSU would underperform.  I was right.

[DL]

If I’m not mistaken would t this be the worst result for the  CDU/CSU in the history of Germany ?

[Tender Branson]

Remember that this is only an exit poll.

Lets wait for the first projection.

[TheSaint250]

I feel like Merkel still wants the SPD over a Coalition with FDP, but I’m less sure of that than before.

[Mike88]

If I’m not mistaken would t this be the worst result for the  CDU/CSU in the history of Germany ?

Close. They got 33% in 2009.

[mvd10]

Lindner I love you
Lindner I do
Whenever we're apart
My heart beats only for you

FDP!

If I’m not mistaken would t this be the worst result for the  CDU/CSU in the history of Germany ?

Yep

[ZuWo]

Jamaica it will be. Schwesig (SPD) just ruled out another Grand Coalition on behalf of the entire SPD leadership and after 12 years in opposition the Greens will be power hungry enough to accept.

[TheSaint250]

The ZDF exit poll is:

CDU/CSU: 33.5%
SPD: 21%
AfD: 13%
FDP: 10%
Grüne: 9%
Linke: 9%
Other: 4.5%

[TheSaint250]

Lindner I love you
Lindner I do
Whenever we're apart
My heart beats only for you

FDP!

[Tender Branson]

Jamaica it will be. Schwesig (SPD) just ruled out another Grand Coalition on behalf of the entire SPD leadership and after 12 years in opposition the Greens will be power hungry enough to accept.

Makes sense with these results.

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

If I’m not mistaken would t this be the worst result for the  CDU/CSU in the history of Germany ?

Close. They got 33% in 2009.

No. In 1949 the Union got 31.0%.
Second worse result for the CSU btw.

Year	Chancellor candidate	CSU top candidate	Union (PV)	Union (%)	CSU (PV)	CSU (% fed.)	CSU (% Bav.)	CSU share
1949	Konrad Adenauer	Hanns Seidel	7,359,084	31.0%	1,380,448	5.8%	29.2%	18.8%
1953	Konrad Adenauer	Fritz Schäffer	12,443,981	45.2%	2,427,387	8.9%	47.8%	19.5%
19571)	Konrad Adenauer	Fritz Schäffer	15,008,399	50.2%	3,133,060	10.5%	57.2%	20.9%
1961	Konrad Adenauer	Franz J. Strauß	14,298,372	45.3%	3,014,471	9.6%	54.9%	21.1%
1965	Ludwig Erhard	Franz J. Strauß	15,524,068	47.6%	3,136,506	9.6%	55.6%	20.2%
1969	Kurt G. Kiesinger	Franz J. Strauß	15,195,187	46.1%	3,115,652	9.5%	54.4%	20.5%
19722)	Rainer Barzel	Franz J. Strauß	16,806,020	44.9%	3,615,183	9.7%	55.1%	21.5%
1976	Helmut Kohl	Franz J. Strauß	18,394,801	48.6%	4,027,499	10.6%	60.0%	21.9%
1980	Franz J. Strauß	Franz J. Strauß	16,897,659	44.5%	3,908,459	10.3%	57.6%	23.1%
1983	Helmut Kohl	Franz J. Strauß	18,998,545	48.8%	4,140,865	10.6%	59.5%	21.8%
1987	Helmut Kohl	Franz J. Strauß	16,761,572	44.3%	3,715,827	9.8%	55.1%	22.2%
19903)	Helmut Kohl	Theo Waigel	20,358,096	43.8%	3,302,980	7.1%	51.9%	16.2%
1994	Helmut Kohl	Theo Waigel	19,517,156	41.4%	3,427,196	7.3%	51.2%	17.6%
1998	Helmut Kohl	Theo Waigel	17,329,388	35.1%	3,324,480	6.7%	47.7%	19.2%
2002	Edmund Stoiber	Edmund Stoiber	18,482,641	38.5%	4,315,080	9.0%	58.6%	23.3%
2005	Angela Merkel	Edmund Stoiber	16,631,049	35.2%	3,494,309	7.4%	49.2%	21.0%
2009	Angela Merkel	Peter Ramsauer	14,658,515	33.8%	2,830,238	6.5%	42.5%	19.3%
2013	Angela Merkel	Gerda Hasselfeldt	18,165,446	41.5%	3,243,569	7.4%	49.3%	17.9%

1) First election after the Saarland's reunification with West Germany. Only time the CSU also competed outside of Bavaria; the federal CSU result includes the Saarland votes.
2) The voting age had been lowered from 21 to 18, hence the marked increase in votes.
3) First election after Reunification, hence the large increase in votes.

PS: If you wanna know how great pains I took to create this chart, take a look at the source code... 😓

[Oryxslayer]

Jamaica it will be. Schwesig (SPD) just ruled out another Grand Coalition on behalf of the entire SPD leadership and after 12 years in opposition the Greens will be power hungry enough to accept.

Makes sense with these results.

Exactly what I have been thinking all time...

[Beezer]

SPD officially says it will not join government.

[mvd10]

If you only count post reunification results it's the worst though, but Hades is right, I forgot about 1949. It's funny how Germany started about with quite a lot of parties in 1949, but gradually moved to having only 3 (or 4 if you count CSU) parties represented in parliament by the early 60s.

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

If you only count post reunification results it's the worst though, but Hades is right, I forgot about 1949. It's funny how Germany started about with quite a lot of parties in 1949, but gradually moved to having only 3 (or 4 if you count CSU) parties represented in parliament by the early 60s.

That's because in the very first election a party only needed 5% in a single Land (and not in the whole of Germany).

[Lotuslander]

This Bundestag election will be the first, since the end of Nazi era in 1945, in which a far-right party enters the German parliament (AfD) - a trend we are seeing in many places in Europe.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

This Bundestag election will be the first, since the end of Nazi era in 1945, in which a far-right party enters the German parliament (AfD) - a trend we are seeing in many places in Europe.

Wrong: far-right parties won seats in the first three Bundestag elections.

[mvd10]

And wasn't the very early FDP quite nationalist?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

The good news for the SPD is that as sh!t as their result is it's not The story, lol.

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

1.2 million former non-voters voted AfD.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

And wasn't the very early FDP quite nationalist?

It was an unholy coalition of principled liberals and, yes, people of that general leaning.

[TheSaint250]

SPD officially says it will not join government.

WOOOOOO

[Tender Branson]

1st ZDF projection:

[mvd10]

The SPD still is 3.5 times as big as our social democratic party, it can always be worse

[Beezer]

Result is relatively similar to the polling aggregate from a year ago (aside from the FDP):