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« Reply #1700 on: August 26, 2018, 10:13:33 AM »

Sanders just had the distinction of being the only Democrat to vote no on the Defense-Labor-HHS appropriations Minibus.

Sanders isn't a Democrat. He caucuses with the Democrats. There is a difference.

There is no point in differentiating in this context.
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« Reply #1701 on: August 26, 2018, 09:51:06 PM »

If Bullock runs, he’ll probably drop out after SC and then run for Senate. Republicans should hope that the presidential run damages him enough to move what would be a Tilt/Lean D race on paper to Tossup or maybe Tilt R.
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« Reply #1702 on: August 26, 2018, 10:29:23 PM »

Elizabeth Warren appeared on the news today and stated in regards to the Mollie Tibbets murder that Americans need to be more focused on "real issues."

She's right though. Do you really think people are going to remember that in 2020? They'll probably try and convict the guy next year before anybody votes.
Did she have to sound so cold-hearted and technocratic, though?  I mean, really.  What is it with people from Massachusetts and their inability to project empathy?

Warren with this.  Romney with the "47%" and the "I like to fire people!" comments.  Dukakis with his robotic answer on his wife's rapist and murderer getting the death penalty.


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« Reply #1703 on: August 26, 2018, 11:41:29 PM »

If Bullock runs, he’ll probably drop out after SC and then run for Senate. Republicans should hope that the presidential run damages him enough to move what would be a Tilt/Lean D race on paper to Tossup or maybe Tilt R.

i don't think Bullock is going to run in the first place.

He's going to do a Senate bid and a Senate bid only...and that's a tossup at best, given the margin Trump probably will win Montana by.
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« Reply #1704 on: August 27, 2018, 12:53:31 AM »

If Bullock runs, he’ll probably drop out after SC and then run for Senate. Republicans should hope that the presidential run damages him enough to move what would be a Tilt/Lean D race on paper to Tossup or maybe Tilt R.

i don't think Bullock is going to run in the first place.

He's going to do a Senate bid and a Senate bid only...and that's a tossup at best, given the margin Trump probably will win Montana by.
What about Bullock's actions lately make you think he's gonna run for Senate and not President? He's been moving further to the left on guns, campaigning in Iowa, and has even bought thousands of fake twitter followers. Bullock has been an executive for his entire political career and probably has no interest in being one of many legislators vying for influence in Washington. Bullock is one of the mostly likely people to run at this point.
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« Reply #1705 on: August 27, 2018, 03:37:31 PM »

Bullock moved past the point of no return when he changed his position on gun control he can't just jump back into MT-SEN after having moved left on a dozen different issues.
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« Reply #1706 on: August 27, 2018, 03:40:20 PM »

Bullock moved past the point of no return when he changed his position on gun control he can't just jump back into MT-SEN after having moved left on a dozen different issues.

Yeah, maybe Schweizer should run for senate and Mike Cooney for governor to succeed Bullock. Both are decent candidates.
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« Reply #1707 on: August 27, 2018, 09:50:35 PM »

Bullock moved past the point of no return when he changed his position on gun control he can't just jump back into MT-SEN after having moved left on a dozen different issues.

Sure he can.

Jon Tester is more progressive than your average Montana Democrat...so if Bullock's positions are anywhere near Tester's, he can win a Montana Senate race...at least against Daines.

I won't speak to reelection in 2026.
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« Reply #1708 on: August 28, 2018, 12:39:06 AM »

Merkley will speak at the Polk County Steak Fry in Iowa on Sept. 29th:

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2018/08/28/iowa-polk-county-steak-fry-delaney-merkley-jayapal-mastromonaco-hubbell-2018-caucus-2020-president/975288002/
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« Reply #1709 on: August 28, 2018, 09:14:59 AM »

Castro:

http://www.wlrn.org/post/former-hud-secretary-juli-n-castro-campaigns-andrew-gillum-across-south-florida

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That’s got to be a typo.  “The primaries in November”?  Presumably that should say midterms rather than primaries.

Landrieu named a visiting fellow at Harvard:


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« Reply #1710 on: August 28, 2018, 09:20:20 AM »

Avenatti says he’s got a bunch of (currently anonymous) Hollywood support for a potential run:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/michael-avenatti-thinks-hollywood-would-back-him-president-2020-1137345

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He also says he has no decision timeline:

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« Reply #1711 on: August 28, 2018, 10:01:13 AM »

Inslee:

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/gov-inslees-out-of-state-political-trips-trump-criticism-raise-his-national-profile/

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« Reply #1712 on: August 28, 2018, 10:21:04 AM »

Catanese has a new story about the Sanders-Warren dynamic, detailing how Sanders feared that a potential Warren run in 2016 might box him out, and talking about how they might coordinate on who is going to run this time around:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/warren-sanders-trump-2020/568462/

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« Reply #1713 on: August 28, 2018, 11:20:52 AM »

I disagree completely. I believe that if both of them run and on more or less the same message, it would make that message so much stronger in the debates and the primaries and would attract even more independents and even some Trump voters/Republicans into the Democratic fold by really stirring up their imagination of what could become. Of course there's room for more than one economic populist in the vast Democratic field that will materialize next year, that could reach numbers up to 20 or even 30. If there are 2 populists out of 20 candidates running, that is still just 10% of the field - hardly anything at all!
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« Reply #1714 on: August 28, 2018, 12:16:10 PM »

I was certain that Elizabeth Warren highlighting her belief in compassionate capitalism recently was an attempt to delineate herself from Sanders. It still may be.
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« Reply #1715 on: August 28, 2018, 01:41:27 PM »

I was certain that Elizabeth Warren highlighting her belief in compassionate capitalism recently was an attempt to delineate herself from Sanders. It still may be.

I agree. It read like a campaign message blueprint to me, and one that would attract Sanders fans but still allow her to distinguish herself.
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« Reply #1716 on: August 28, 2018, 10:06:37 PM »

I was certain that Elizabeth Warren highlighting her belief in compassionate capitalism recently was an attempt to delineate herself from Sanders. It still may be.

I agree. It read like a campaign message blueprint to me, and one that would attract Sanders fans but still allow her to distinguish herself.

Remember, that was something that she was saying in private that was apparently leaked.  I think the intended audience was Democratic Party elites.  My reading is that she wants to make clear to party elites that she's not Sanders redux, since many of them are not so keen on Sanders.  This is something that makes sense for her to communicate to them if she runs, regardless of whether Sanders himself is also in the race or not.
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« Reply #1717 on: August 28, 2018, 10:16:48 PM »

Ryan:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/28/politics/tim-ryan-democratic-leadership-or-president/index.html

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Seems like doing running for both and losing is reasonably likely: He runs for Speaker in November and loses, but attempts to use his failed bid for the Speakership to raise his profile, which he then uses in his presidential campaign.
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« Reply #1718 on: August 29, 2018, 09:36:18 AM »

Avenatti is launching his own federal PAC:

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/rubycramer/michael-avenattis-2020-pac

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« Reply #1719 on: August 29, 2018, 09:53:01 AM »


LOL, he will drop out before IA or soon after, after getting 1%.
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« Reply #1720 on: August 29, 2018, 10:58:25 AM »

I figured either Warren or Sanders would get in the race (not both). Bernie would be the stronger choice in my opinion. Also,  Julian Castro and Porn Lawyer really don't seem to get that literally no one cares about their potential bids.
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« Reply #1721 on: August 29, 2018, 12:28:02 PM »


LOL, he will drop out before IA or soon after, after getting 1%.
I'm actually a little worried. He already has high name recognition and knows how to fire up the base. My dad eats everything he says up and seems very open to his presidential ambitions.
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« Reply #1722 on: August 29, 2018, 09:46:37 PM »

Cuomo said in his primary debate that he'll serve another full term as governor, which (if taken at face value) would appear to preclude a presidential run in 2020:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-pol-cuomo-trump-president-debate-20180829-story.html

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« Reply #1723 on: August 29, 2018, 11:58:12 PM »

Pro-Patrick PAC being formed by his allies:

https://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2018/08/deval_patrick_launches_reason.html

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« Reply #1724 on: August 30, 2018, 09:16:30 AM »

Garcetti headed to South Carolina in a few weeks:

https://www.expressnews.com/news/article/Mulling-2020-run-LA-mayor-to-visit-South-13190962.php

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