Pat Robertson Calls For Assassination

[Wakie]

How Christian of him.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-08-22-robertson-_x.htm

Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson called on Monday for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, calling him a "terrific danger" to the United States.

[John Dibble]

Who cares?

[Virginian87]

Why is this man still allowed on the air?

[Wakie]

Who cares?

You do.  You clicked on the link.

[WalterMitty]

he is exactly right.

chavez is a despot who needs to be dealt with.


and liberals, before you all get too riled up, remember that you really, really, really, really believe in free speech.  (unless it involves something you dont agree with)

[Wakie]

1) I agree that Chavez is trying to be Castro Jr, that he is a total SOB, and if he had a sudden heart attack it would be a good thing.

2) I do totally believe in free speech and Roberts has every right in the world to say anything he wants.  In fact I would encourage him to do it as he amuses me.

3) What kind of Christian programming calls for death?  Seriously man.  Roberts is sounding more and more like a psycho extremist Imam.  Imagine some Islamic tv show where the host (a supposed man of God) were on there calling for the assassination of one of his country's political enemies.  We'd be asking "where are the other Muslim leaders to condemn this".

[John Dibble]

Who cares?

You do.  You clicked on the link.

That doesn't infer that I care. I seriously never hear anything about Robertson outside of this forum, I think you guys are way too obsessed with the guy.

[falling apart like the ashes of American flags]

chavez is a despot who needs to be dealt with.

Should the president of Singapore be assasinated? They have a much lower Freedom House score than Venezuela. So is the government there despotic?

[minionofmidas]

1) I agree that Chavez is trying to be Castro Jr, that he is a total SOB, and if he had a sudden heart attack it would be a good thing.

2) I do totally believe in free speech and Roberts has every right in the world to say anything he wants.  In fact I would encourage him to do it as he amuses me.

3) What kind of Christian programming calls for death?  Seriously man.  Roberts is sounding more and more like a psycho extremist Imam.  Imagine some Islamic tv show where the host (a supposed man of God) were on there calling for the assassination of one of his country's political enemies.  We'd be asking "where are the other Muslim leaders to condemn this".

Pat Robertson has resigned the ministry ages ago. But yeah of course, we'd probably be lynching anybody who hadn't condemned this guy at the count of 10.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

If Chavez gets assassinated, they ought to hold Pat Robertson at least partly responsible.

Pat Robertson is a terrorist, and the Christian Coalition is a terrorist group. They even opposed anti-bullying legislation.

[John Dibble]

Pat Robertson is a terrorist, and the Christian Coalition is a terrorist group.

[sarcasm]And here I thought that calling anyone who disagrees a terrorist was a Republican position[/sarcasm].

[KillerPollo]

Pat Robertson is a terrorist, and the Christian Coalition is a terrorist group.

[sarcasm]And here I thought that calling anyone who disagrees a terrorist was a Republican position[/sarcasm].

I'm a terrorist. a forum terrorist

[Emsworth]

Pat Robertson is a terrorist, and the Christian Coalition is a terrorist group. They even opposed anti-bullying legislation.

Yes, of course, schoolyard bullies are terrorists. [/sarcasm]

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Yes, of course, schoolyard bullies are terrorists.

They are.

[KillerPollo]

Yes, of course, schoolyard bullies are terrorists.

They are.

They terrorise children and younglings.

Do you have ANY idea of what I went through in Jr. High?
I didn't even want to go to school, because i'd prepare for a daily 8-hour torment. It was soo horrible.

That was one of the few things that fueled my current ideology and political standpoint.

[minionofmidas]

Yes, of course, schoolyard bullies are terrorists.

They are.

They terrorise children and younglings.

Do you have ANY idea of what I went through in Jr. High?
I didn't even want to go to school, because i'd prepare for a daily 8-hour torment. It was soo horrible.

That was one of the few things that fueled my current ideology and political standpoint.

Which is? Hatred of gays and an Asian fixation. How was that fuelled by bullying?

PS - Sorry if this comes over as gloating or uncompassionate. It's not meant that way. I don't know how you were bullied, but that can be pretty hard on a kid.

[KillerPollo]

Yes, of course, schoolyard bullies are terrorists.

They are.

They terrorise children and younglings.

Do you have ANY idea of what I went through in Jr. High?
I didn't even want to go to school, because i'd prepare for a daily 8-hour torment. It was soo horrible.

That was one of the few things that fueled my current ideology and political standpoint.

Which is? Hatred of gays and an Asian fixation. How was that fuelled by bullying?

PS - Sorry if this comes over as gloating or uncompassionate. It's not meant that way. I don't know how you were bullied, but that can be pretty hard on a kid.

If you read carefully, I said SOME!!!
example: strong nationalism and patriotism for my country.

[Emsworth]

Yes, of course, schoolyard bullies are terrorists.[/sarcasm]

They are.

Terrorism entails the use of violence against innocent persons, with the primary intention of instilling fear in a society, in order to achieve a political, religious, or ideological objective of some kind. Schoolyard bullies (horrible as they may be) are not terrorists.

[John Dibble]

Yes, of course, schoolyard bullies are terrorists.[/sarcasm]

They are.

Terrorism entails the use of violence against innocent persons, with the primary intention of instilling fear in a society, in order to achieve a political, religious, or ideological objective of some kind. Schoolyard bullies (horrible as they may be) are not terrorists.

Quite right. I can see how you could make the connections, and while if you look at it in a certain way they can be seen as similar, schoolyard bullying is by no means the same thing as terrorism. And don't play the victim card - you aren't the only person who's ever been bullied, you know.

[KillerPollo]

Yes, of course, schoolyard bullies are terrorists.[/sarcasm]

They are.

Terrorism entails the use of violence against innocent persons, with the primary intention of instilling fear in a society, in order to achieve a political, religious, or ideological objective of some kind. Schoolyard bullies (horrible as they may be) are not terrorists.

They are... Terrorists, but in a much smaller scale. PRECISELY Instliing fear. But in an individual scale.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Terrorism entails the use of violence against innocent persons, with the primary intention of instilling fear in a society, in order to achieve a political, religious, or ideological objective of some kind.

This is exactly what school bullies do.

[Emsworth]

Terrorism entails the use of violence against innocent persons, with the primary intention of instilling fear in a society, in order to achieve a political, religious, or ideological objective of some kind.

This is exactly what school bullies do.

They instill fear in a society as a whole? They seek to achieve a political objective? Hardly.

[KillerPollo]

Terrorism entails the use of violence against innocent persons, with the primary intention of instilling fear in a society, in order to achieve a political, religious, or ideological objective of some kind.

This is exactly what school bullies do.

They instill fear in a society as a whole? They seek to achieve a political objective? Hardly.

Yes but like I said in an INDIVIDUAL and PERSONAL scale.

OMG I dont know how you don't see that.

they seek to achieve an "individual" political objective: to show others that they are tough and not likely to be messed with.

[John Dibble]

Terrorism entails the use of violence against innocent persons, with the primary intention of instilling fear in a society, in order to achieve a political, religious, or ideological objective of some kind.

This is exactly what school bullies do.

They instill fear in a society as a whole? They seek to achieve a political objective? Hardly.

One other difference between bullies and terrorists - bullies are cowards, terrorists aren't(at least not in the same sense bullies are). Bullies explicitly target the weak, they fear fighting someone stronger than themselves, whereas terrorists are generally fighting something much stronger than themselves(which is why they employ terror tactics, they know they can't win on the open field of battle, and even still they know they are putting themselves in danger). Terrorists also often fight for some ideal, religion, or some other motivation of some sort, which is why they are an entirely different animal than the schoolyard bully - they won't back down so easily because they fight for something they believe in. Bullies on the other hand don't really believe in anything, they just bully those weaker than themselves for the sake of their ego and nothing else. Really the two are vastly different - I'd much rather face 100 bullies than a single terrorist.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

If there is a god of irony, Roberston will next call on Bush to follow Blair's lead and deport clerics who preach violence and hate.