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« Reply #500 on: October 22, 2017, 06:22:47 AM »

Something to note here is that HP is struggling to reach its pre-election levels of deserters. That makes it incredibly likely that candidates return to the CDP post-election.
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« Reply #501 on: October 22, 2017, 06:23:05 AM »

LDP-KP on its way of a clean sweep of 兵庫(Hyōgo).  But that was expected.  
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« Reply #502 on: October 22, 2017, 06:23:14 AM »

Maehara holds his seat
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« Reply #503 on: October 22, 2017, 06:24:04 AM »

Something to note here is that HP is struggling to reach its pre-election levels of deserters. That makes it incredibly likely that candidates return to the CDP post-election.

Correct.  In fact I think HP might end up with close to zero winners that were not part of DP in the first place.  I am sure a few might stick around.
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« Reply #504 on: October 22, 2017, 06:24:10 AM »

NHK Tokyo Prediction.

CDP target seats
Likely CDP: 7th
Lean CDP: 5th, 18th, 22th
Tossup: 1st, 16th
Lean LDP: 2nd, 6th, 19th

Wakasa Masaru expected to finIsh 3rd.
HP expected to lose every Tokyo seat except 21st (Lean HP)
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« Reply #505 on: October 22, 2017, 06:26:26 AM »

CDP will probably end up with 90-100 by next week.
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« Reply #506 on: October 22, 2017, 06:26:40 AM »

Ozawa wins, of course, as even JCP vacated his seat so he takes on LDP 1-on-1.
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« Reply #507 on: October 22, 2017, 06:28:16 AM »

Was 東京10区 expected to be close?
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« Reply #508 on: October 22, 2017, 06:30:29 AM »

Was 東京10区 expected to be close?

HP was losing ground, but at least everyone expected Wakasa Masaru to finish 2nd.
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« Reply #509 on: October 22, 2017, 06:31:41 AM »

That maybe will be stupid question but what were the main issues during the campaign? Is Article 9 revision still important in public debate?
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« Reply #510 on: October 22, 2017, 06:32:22 AM »

That maybe will be stupid question but what were the main issues during the campaign? Is Article 9 revision still important in public debate?
It was one of, if not THE most important issue in the campaign.
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« Reply #511 on: October 22, 2017, 06:32:27 AM »

Was 東京10区 expected to be close?

HP was losing ground, but at least everyone expected Wakasa Masaru to finish 2nd.

Yeah.  He was suppose to win by a mile.  He is a ex-LDP MP and part of the Koike faction in LDP.  Him going to third is a major humiliation of Koike.
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« Reply #512 on: October 22, 2017, 06:34:50 AM »

Overall NHK is more aggressive on making calls in the PR section.  Asahi more aggressive in making calls in FPTP district seats.
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« Reply #513 on: October 22, 2017, 06:35:53 AM »

Has any vote actually been counted? I'm clicking around on the districts and I only saw one in Hokkaido at 2% or so of the voted counted.
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« Reply #514 on: October 22, 2017, 06:37:26 AM »

Has any vote actually been counted? I'm clicking around on the districts and I only saw one in Hokkaido at 2% or so of the voted counted.

Very little. Most "results" are just based on exit polls.
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« Reply #515 on: October 22, 2017, 06:39:15 AM »

Has any vote actually been counted? I'm clicking around on the districts and I only saw one in Hokkaido at 2% or so of the voted counted.

Very little. Most "results" are just based on exit polls.

I thought as much, just wanted confirmation.
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« Reply #516 on: October 22, 2017, 06:39:34 AM »

So that means that, theoretically, the exit polls could sill be wrong and that LDP-KP could be underperforming at an even worse level?
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« Reply #517 on: October 22, 2017, 06:40:05 AM »

Frankly, looking at some of the NHK exist polls for various seats, it does seem that that the CDP vote are going HP instead of JCP in a bunch of them.  If so the main reason for HP's poorer performance is just there are less anti-LDP votes out there due to lower turnout.
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« Reply #518 on: October 22, 2017, 06:40:43 AM »

So that means that, theoretically, the exit polls could sill be wrong and that LDP-KP could be underperforming at an even worse level?

Correct.  In fact looking at the "calls" so far I think there is more downside to LDP-KP performance at this stage than upside.
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« Reply #519 on: October 22, 2017, 06:40:53 AM »

So that means that, theoretically, the exit polls could sill be wrong and that LDP-KP could be underperforming at an even worse level?

Yes, though I think this would simply mean a bunch of the grey "marginal" seats don't go LDP - currently its just safe seats being projected I think.
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« Reply #520 on: October 22, 2017, 06:43:40 AM »

What do you think the results could have been had there not been a Typhoon about to hit, or it was well off the Japan coast?
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« Reply #521 on: October 22, 2017, 06:45:53 AM »

What do you think the results could have been had there not been a Typhoon about to hit, or it was well off the Japan coast?

We will have to see the real results.  But if LDP-KP could not get to 2/3 majority even with such a lower turnout I failed to see why higher turnout would not turn out badly for them.
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« Reply #522 on: October 22, 2017, 06:46:46 AM »

Updated turnout chart

           2017    2014      2012
11:00  12.24     11.08 14.03
14:00  21.83     22.66 27.40
16:00  26.31     29.11 34.87
18:00  29.99     34.98 41.77
19:30  31.82     37.72 45.42
20:00               40.01   47.82
Early   20.01     12.65   11.50
Final               52.66 59.32

So final turnout should be around 53.5%
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« Reply #523 on: October 22, 2017, 06:48:33 AM »

Updated turnout chart

           2017    2014      2012
11:00  12.24     11.08 14.03
14:00  21.83     22.66 27.40
16:00  26.31     29.11 34.87
18:00  29.99     34.98 41.77
19:30  31.82     37.72 45.42
20:00               40.01   47.82
Early   20.01     12.65   11.50
Final               52.66 59.32

So final turnout should be around 53.5%
The results don't feel that way though... It's all so strange...
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« Reply #524 on: October 22, 2017, 06:57:46 AM »

So far on NHK it is

LDP  185
KP     25
JRP     4
HP    29
CDP  33
SDP    1
JCP     7
Ind   16

Asahi it is

LDP          199
KP              24
JRP              5
HP             32
CDP           32
SDP             1
JCP              7
Ind(LDP)      1
Ind(OPPN)  14
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