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« Reply #400 on: March 11, 2018, 12:29:08 AM »
Horwath and Wynne must be giddy tonight.
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« Reply #401 on: March 11, 2018, 01:16:25 AM »
Christine Elliott is not conceding:

https://twitter.com/CBCQueensPark/status/972701075487805440
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« Reply #402 on: March 11, 2018, 10:22:17 AM »

For someone so incompetent Wynne has had tremendous luck with the hacks she’s been privileged to face
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« Reply #403 on: March 11, 2018, 11:34:57 AM »
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« Reply #404 on: March 11, 2018, 11:40:24 AM »

Well Horwath has some work to do.

Wynne is not winning this election though.
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« Reply #405 on: March 11, 2018, 12:46:50 PM »
Quote from: Holmes on March 10, 2018, 10:45:37 PM
Quote from: Not_Senator_Not_Madigan on March 10, 2018, 10:44:33 PM
Ontario Election 2018 is now a three way race instead of a coronation of the PCs.


LET'S GO NDP!

Eh. I think this just confirms the OLP as third party status. Real question is PC majority or minority.

Not quite sure of that. "Vote Liberal to stop *insert Tory leader here*!" is a tried and true strategy, and it fits well with Ford as an opponent.
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« Reply #406 on: March 11, 2018, 01:10:38 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario_general_election%2C_2018#Opinion_polls

What happened in February that made the OLP's numbers drop to a new level of bad?
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King of Kensington
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« Reply #407 on: March 11, 2018, 02:51:51 PM »
Wynne is a formidable campaigner.  Horwath is OK.  I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that the NDP is going to displace the Liberals on the center-left of the spectrum. 
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« Reply #408 on: March 11, 2018, 04:17:45 PM »
Steve Paikin has given out a lot of riding results on his Twitter feed.
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« Reply #409 on: March 11, 2018, 04:53:38 PM »
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Wynne is a formidable campaigner.  Horwath is OK.  I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that the NDP is going to displace the Liberals on the center-left of the spectrum. 

Is Wynne actually all that good a campaigner or is that just a myth left over from the 2014 election? As I recall for most of the campaign she ran a pretty pedestrian campaign and by all accounts she diud very badly in the leaders debate. What really happened in 2014 was that Hudak totally flopped and Wynne was there to reap the benefit from that
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« Reply #410 on: March 11, 2018, 04:55:45 PM »
Finally Elliott conceded.
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« Reply #411 on: March 11, 2018, 05:12:35 PM »
Just as I had suspected.  Etobicoke - Lakeshore went for Elliott.  This part of Etobicoke will not go for Ford, and Peter Milczyn will likely be the one (out of the 3 Etobicoke ridings) to stay red.
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« Reply #412 on: March 11, 2018, 05:38:58 PM »
According to Wiki, Ford won on points but not the overall vote. Would love to see detailed results by riding like in the federal Tory race.
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« Reply #413 on: March 11, 2018, 05:55:05 PM »
^ Check out Paikin's Twitter page.
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« Reply #414 on: March 11, 2018, 06:21:36 PM »
I think some would be surprised by the result in Peel Region (pretty evenly split).  Ford dominated York Region (more nouveau riche/McMansion territory) to the north.  Elliott won Durham (her home turf) and Halton (more "establishment").
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« Reply #415 on: March 11, 2018, 06:31:10 PM »
My mom, who I consider to be the quintessential Ontario swing voter, told me she won't be voting PC, but on the subject of Doug Ford, "at least he's not Kathleen Wynne."
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« Reply #416 on: March 11, 2018, 06:38:27 PM »
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My mom, who I consider to be the quintessential Ontario swing voter, told me she won't be voting PC, but on the subject of Doug Ford, "at least he's not Kathleen Wynne."

Worked for Trump.  Remember how we heard how college-educated suburban GOP women and Mormons and so on wouldn't vote for Trump because he was so horrible.
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« Reply #417 on: March 11, 2018, 07:34:50 PM »
This completely blows my mind. I figured Ford would be a laughing stock and be capped at 25% or so. I always thought of the PC's as a country club chamber of commerce establishment party. I didn't think of it as a Trumpian pitchfork populist one.
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« Reply #418 on: March 11, 2018, 07:51:53 PM »
Teddy tweeted some maps earlier.
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King of Kensington
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« Reply #419 on: March 11, 2018, 07:57:06 PM »
The GTA vs. non-GTA difference is less pronounced than I think many would have suspected. 
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« Reply #420 on: March 11, 2018, 09:38:13 PM »
Quote from: King of Kensington on March 11, 2018, 07:57:06 PM
The GTA vs. non-GTA difference is less pronounced than I think many would have suspected. 
What was expected exactly? You could have argued for Ford doing better in the GTA (more immigrants, familiarity) or outside (more blue collar).

I’m surprised how well Elliott did in Peel actually.
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« Reply #421 on: March 11, 2018, 10:23:41 PM »
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Quote from: King of Kensington on March 11, 2018, 07:57:06 PM
The GTA vs. non-GTA difference is less pronounced than I think many would have suspected. 
What was expected exactly? You could have argued for Ford doing better in the GTA (more immigrants, familiarity) or outside (more blue collar).

I’m surprised how well Elliott did in Peel actually.

The former.  I heard a lot of claims (not so much here) that Ford was far more popular in Toronto/GTA than outside it.  I was also surprised that Peel split pretty evenly.
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« Reply #422 on: March 12, 2018, 12:34:01 AM »
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This completely blows my mind. I figured Ford would be a laughing stock and be capped at 25% or so. I always thought of the PC's as a country club chamber of commerce establishment party. I didn't think of it as a Trumpian pitchfork populist one.

Mike Harris was also something of a pitchfork populist though he worked at a country club (a golf pro.)
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« Reply #423 on: March 12, 2018, 09:26:53 AM »
Forum is already hot off the mark with a post-Ford poll. They have:

PCs - 44% and projected to win 84 seats
NDP - 27% and projected to win 29 seats
Liberals - 23% and projected to win 11 seats (!!)


http://poll.forumresearch.com/post/2835/doug-ford-leadership-march-2018
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« Reply #424 on: March 12, 2018, 09:51:28 AM »
Quote from: New Canadaland on March 11, 2018, 09:38:13 PM
Quote from: King of Kensington on March 11, 2018, 07:57:06 PM
The GTA vs. non-GTA difference is less pronounced than I think many would have suspected. 
What was expected exactly? You could have argued for Ford doing better in the GTA (more immigrants, familiarity) or outside (more blue collar).

I’m surprised how well Elliott did in Peel actually.

It's a little shocking that Elliott won Mississauga Malton,which is right next to Etobicoke-North, and has pretty much the same demographics.
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