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« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2017, 12:38:23 PM »

It wasn't so long ago that Bernienomics polled very poorly even inside the Dem base.  Progress is progress even at a snail's pace!
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« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2017, 12:52:31 PM »

It wasn't so long ago that Bernienomics polled very poorly even inside the Dem base.  Progress is progress even at a snail's pace!

Minimum Wage won in the ballot. Marijuana did too. Universal Healthcare or Infra or taxing the wealthy are massively popular in all polls. The proof is the pudding. You can't cite an Unscientific study without methodology, sample details & crosstabs & claim that is the truth. This is FAKE NEWS at best.

Put the details of the poll & let people say if "It was a biased sample or not", "Does it oversample certain kind of voters" "Were the questions biased/loaded/leading questions?" I can selectively take a sample or design a study tomorrow with scare mongering questions & can get a significantly different result than what actually should be.

And The Better deal is significantly borrowing from Sanders school of economics - Massive Infra to create jobs, crack down on outsourcing, 15$ Min Wage, Medicare negotiating prices, Drug importation. Yes it doesn't have every bit of Sanders policies like Universal Healthcare or Tuition Free College, but there is significant overlap in policies.
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« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2017, 12:53:40 PM »

I was worried about this.

We need something that's well-thought-out, not a pie in the sky empty promise. The Better Deal, with trust-busting proposals among other things, is far better than this, but as long as Sanders is strong-arming everyone into backing a plan he doesn't even want to be workable, he's dragging the party straight to hell.

This was said in 2009 and 2010, the Tea Party won anyway, oops!

Worked with Voodoo Economics in the '70's (now the American Consensus that's just starting to fall), MAGA, "Hope and Change", Enough With Iraq (or whatever they called it in 2006). Whereas the well thought out stuff of 2002 just meant not even 'Nam veterans were safe, Gore, Kerry, and Hillary lost.

Yeah, and look how well those things are working now. The only thing worse than a pie in the sky empty promise that doesn't win an election is the one that does, and screws the nation over. The Tea Party has made the GOP un-governable. If the Dems fall into the same trap then they have no reason to exist.

Exactly.

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« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2017, 01:03:45 PM »

I was worried about this.

We need something that's well-thought-out, not a pie in the sky empty promise. The Better Deal, with trust-busting proposals among other things, is far better than this, but as long as Sanders is strong-arming everyone into backing a plan he doesn't even want to be workable, he's dragging the party straight to hell.
Ridiculous.

Not really.
Guaranteeing everyone health care is pie in the sky, but trillion dollar wars are totally doable?
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« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2017, 01:20:07 PM »

I was worried about this.

We need something that's well-thought-out, not a pie in the sky empty promise. The Better Deal, with trust-busting proposals among other things, is far better than this, but as long as Sanders is strong-arming everyone into backing a plan he doesn't even want to be workable, he's dragging the party straight to hell.
Ridiculous.

Not really.
Guaranteeing everyone health care is pie in the sky, but trillion dollar wars are totally doable?

Neither are.
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« Reply #30 on: September 14, 2017, 01:32:10 PM »

The public option was the smartest solution that did not get passed under ACA and it continues to be.
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