HRC Book Megathread - HRC - "No absolution for women who didn't vote for me"

[Rookie Yinzer]

Stands by her deplorable comments . She says she didn't energize or demonize or offend any voters. Says those people were already gone, it was not a "Political gift" & had no bearing on the race.

She literally said "I'm sorry I gave them a political gift of any kind".

Confirmed that you will lie just to perpetuate your narrative that HRC is on a revenge tour.

Wait. I thought I wrote "It was a political gift" (*Anyways Typo - Corrected). The point is that she said it had no bearing no the race whatsoever despite it being a political gift. Personally, I have felt she was right about the deplorable thing but it was a really stupid thing to say & harmed her.

Anyways, you are in your own crazy Hillary-fandom world & argue about this. You can join Hillary in asking Bernie to go away, calling his supporters sexists & saying he encourages that.

Ok.

[publicunofficial]

Liberals:
"Guys we need UNITY. We all need to resist together to stop Trump. We have in more in common than we have seperate, work within the party and stop with the purity politics."

Those same liberals:
"If you like Bernie Sanders it's because you don't like women or people of color. No other explanation."

[KingSweden]

Whoooooooooooooo caaaaaaarrrrrresssssa

Seriously this is the dumbest thread of all time. Hillary is never running again and her book sounds like silly Clintonian score settling. Who cares what she says in book interviews. Bernie supporters need thicker skin than this if they're ever going to become a bigger, more positive force in the party. There are Democrats running in special elections right now, progressives challenging Republcians where it actually matters, who could use the energy and time spent on rehashing the primary for the millionth time

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

This thread is a classic example of beating a dead (political) horse.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

It's also worth noting that on the same topic she specifically mentioned Senator Harris by name. Possibly the favorite of the Clinton team?

[GoTfan]

Clintonians on this thread: It's okay when Hillary attacks someone, but not when Bernie and his supporters do.

[BudgieForce]

Clintonians on this thread: It's okay when Hillary attacks someone, but not when Bernie and his supporters do.

I'm not aware of Hillary attacking anybody.

[Shadows]

Shadows just has a very difficult time accepting that his Lord and savior Bernie Sanders got MILLIONS of less votes than Hillary Rodham Clinton did in the primaries. Deflect, deflect, deflect, is all he can do.

Dude you get full points for idiocy & you keep making the dumbest comments here.

I have said multiple times, including in the last page that HRC won fair & square with millions of more votes than Bernie & no DNC Bias or anything else would have the reason for Bernie's loss due to huge polarization of the black vote. Just stop lying & Bull-shi*ting about the 3.5 Whatever junk number that you using.

[bilaps]

All this gossip and backbiting just illustrates is how anti-Clinton the press has always been.

I stopped reading after this

[Shadows]

In her book "What Happened," Clinton questions why other mainstream Democratic politicians haven't faced the same scrutiny over their 2003 support for the Iraq War. “Why am I seen as such a divisive figure and, say, Joe Biden and John Kerry aren’t?” she asks. “They’ve cast votes of all kinds, including some they regret, just like me? What makes me such a lightning rod for fury?" "I’m really asking. I’m at a loss,” Clinton adds.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/350207-clinton-why-dont-biden-and-kerry-get-same-flak-as-me-for-iraq

[JerryArkansas]

In her book "What Happened," Clinton questions why other mainstream Democratic politicians haven't faced the same scrutiny over their 2003 support for the Iraq War. “Why am I seen as such a divisive figure and, say, Joe Biden and John Kerry aren’t?” she asks. “They’ve cast votes of all kinds, including some they regret, just like me? What makes me such a lightning rod for fury?" "I’m really asking. I’m at a loss,” Clinton adds.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/350207-clinton-why-dont-biden-and-kerry-get-same-flak-as-me-for-iraq

Hillary once again points out the sexist double standards that she faces, but Atlas is going to say she needs to sit down and shut up.

[bilaps]

In her book "What Happened," Clinton questions why other mainstream Democratic politicians haven't faced the same scrutiny over their 2003 support for the Iraq War. “Why am I seen as such a divisive figure and, say, Joe Biden and John Kerry aren’t?” she asks. “They’ve cast votes of all kinds, including some they regret, just like me? What makes me such a lightning rod for fury?" "I’m really asking. I’m at a loss,” Clinton adds.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/350207-clinton-why-dont-biden-and-kerry-get-same-flak-as-me-for-iraq

Hillary once again points out the sexist double standards that she faces, but Atlas is going to say she needs to sit down and shut up.

She needs to sit down and shut up.

It's astonishing to me after watching some portions of the interview how she doesn't get where "her party" is. She says something like "if bernie doesn't want to be here he should go somewhere else". What in the world she thinks that would do to a democratic party? How many votes would Democratic party win if there was a three party system with progressives having their own party? She still thinks she was entitled to votes, she was entitled to be the nominee, how dare this socialist coming to MY party, stealing MY votes, how dare these bernie bros challenging people on twitter?

Those were never YOUR votes, Hillary. And if democratic party wants to go down that road, well, I feel sorry for them.

[JerryArkansas]

In her book "What Happened," Clinton questions why other mainstream Democratic politicians haven't faced the same scrutiny over their 2003 support for the Iraq War. “Why am I seen as such a divisive figure and, say, Joe Biden and John Kerry aren’t?” she asks. “They’ve cast votes of all kinds, including some they regret, just like me? What makes me such a lightning rod for fury?" "I’m really asking. I’m at a loss,” Clinton adds.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/350207-clinton-why-dont-biden-and-kerry-get-same-flak-as-me-for-iraq

Hillary once again points out the sexist double standards that she faces, but Atlas is going to say she needs to sit down and shut up.

She needs to sit down and shut up.

You ever tell any other person who lost that they need to do the same, or you just going to have the sexist double standard?

[Badger]

In her book "What Happened," Clinton questions why other mainstream Democratic politicians haven't faced the same scrutiny over their 2003 support for the Iraq War. “Why am I seen as such a divisive figure and, say, Joe Biden and John Kerry aren’t?” she asks. “They’ve cast votes of all kinds, including some they regret, just like me? What makes me such a lightning rod for fury?" "I’m really asking. I’m at a loss,” Clinton adds.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/350207-clinton-why-dont-biden-and-kerry-get-same-flak-as-me-for-iraq

Because neither were major primary contenders, let alone frontrunners, in 2008 or 16.

[Shadows]

What Hillary Clinton Says She Learned From Her Defeat

A cash payment to guarantee a basic income for every American. A nationwide “carbon-dividend program” to tax fossil fuels and redirect the revenue to citizens. Taxing an individual’s net worth instead of their annual income as a way to reduce income inequality. Hillary Clinton considered proposing each of these transformative ideas during her ill-fated presidential campaign last year, she writes in What Happened, the memoir she is releasing Tuesday. The former secretary of state discarded all of them, however. They were too costly, she writes. Her campaign “couldn’t make the numbers work.”

“We decided it was exciting but not realistic, and left it on the shelf. That was the responsible decision,” Clinton writes about the cash-payment proposal, which was based on Alaska’s program of distributing the state’s oil royalties in dividends to its residents. She is now having second thoughts. “I wonder now whether we should have thrown caution to the wind and embraced ‘Alaska for America’ as a long-term goal and figured out the details later.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/09/hillary-clinton-what-happened-donald-trump-2016/539460/

She should have run on a Carbon Tax. It was a common-sense proposal whose numbers add up. Iyt is stupid to say the numbers don't add up. You need 0 Revenue from the budget for a Carbon Tax. She was not going to get the Coal vote anyways. Atleast this would have helped her with environmentalists.

And UBI is such a radical idea. Basically the economy & unemloyment is beyond repair permanently if you have to support UBI. The economy is still redeemable. I would rather see shorter work window than UBI. She should have supported a 15$ Min Wage instead of thinking about a pie in the sky UBI idea (which O'Malley also supported).

[bilaps]

In her book "What Happened," Clinton questions why other mainstream Democratic politicians haven't faced the same scrutiny over their 2003 support for the Iraq War. “Why am I seen as such a divisive figure and, say, Joe Biden and John Kerry aren’t?” she asks. “They’ve cast votes of all kinds, including some they regret, just like me? What makes me such a lightning rod for fury?" "I’m really asking. I’m at a loss,” Clinton adds.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/350207-clinton-why-dont-biden-and-kerry-get-same-flak-as-me-for-iraq

Hillary once again points out the sexist double standards that she faces, but Atlas is going to say she needs to sit down and shut up.

She needs to sit down and shut up.

You ever tell any other person who lost that they need to do the same, or you just going to have the sexist double standard?

Wait, you're calling me sexist because of what I wrote? Quote the entire post not just a part of it. If you didn't realize by now that what she's talking about right now is counter-productive, you'll never get it. And neither will she unfortunately.

[JerryArkansas]

In her book "What Happened," Clinton questions why other mainstream Democratic politicians haven't faced the same scrutiny over their 2003 support for the Iraq War. “Why am I seen as such a divisive figure and, say, Joe Biden and John Kerry aren’t?” she asks. “They’ve cast votes of all kinds, including some they regret, just like me? What makes me such a lightning rod for fury?" "I’m really asking. I’m at a loss,” Clinton adds.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/350207-clinton-why-dont-biden-and-kerry-get-same-flak-as-me-for-iraq

Hillary once again points out the sexist double standards that she faces, but Atlas is going to say she needs to sit down and shut up.

She needs to sit down and shut up.

You ever tell any other person who lost that they need to do the same, or you just going to have the sexist double standard?

Wait, you're calling me sexist because of what I wrote? Quote the entire post not just a part of it. If you didn't realize by now that what she's talking about right now is counter-productive, you'll never get it. And neither will she unfortunately.

Again she has every right to do so.  So unless you're going to tell the same to every other nominee who has lost you can shove your point.

[libertpaulian]

UBI is pretty interesting, but aren't carbon taxes and wealth taxes pretty much standard Democratic Party policy?

[Rookie Yinzer]

In her book "What Happened," Clinton questions why other mainstream Democratic politicians haven't faced the same scrutiny over their 2003 support for the Iraq War. “Why am I seen as such a divisive figure and, say, Joe Biden and John Kerry aren’t?” she asks. “They’ve cast votes of all kinds, including some they regret, just like me? What makes me such a lightning rod for fury?" "I’m really asking. I’m at a loss,” Clinton adds.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/350207-clinton-why-dont-biden-and-kerry-get-same-flak-as-me-for-iraq

Because neither were major primary contenders, let alone frontrunners, in 2008 or 16.

Bernie Sanders had plenty of excuses made for his controversial votes and actions. In fact, some of them were never covered but Hillary was dragged mercilessly for a bill that was passed and signed into law when she was not an elected official.

For some reason pragmatism and nuance are only allowed when Bernie does something problematic. Hillary is damned to hell and told to go sit in a corner.

[GoTfan]

What most people who call those who backed Bernie sexist fail to realise is that most of us will support Elizabeth Warren in 2020.

[Kamala]

What most people who call those who backed Bernie sexist fail to realise is that most of us will support Elizabeth Warren in 2020.

You are a feminist icon. Thank you.

[136or142]

What most people who call those who backed Bernie sexist fail to realise is that most of us will support Elizabeth Warren in 2020.

She's said she's not going to run for President, so we won't get to find out.

If you back Tulsi Gabbard instead, it might show you aren't sexist, but also show you are antisemitic.

[Blue3]

UBI is pretty interesting, but aren't carbon taxes and wealth taxes pretty much standard Democratic Party policy?

no...

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Don't know if it's been posted yet but she seems to compare herself to cersei from game of thrones....which is a hilarious comparison.

http://exclaim.ca/film/article/hillary_clinton_compared_herself_to_cersei_from_game_of_thrones_and_the_internet_is_having_a_field_day?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feed%3a+newsexclaimca+%28%21exclaim.ca+-+news+%29

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

In her book "What Happened," Clinton questions why other mainstream Democratic politicians haven't faced the same scrutiny over their 2003 support for the Iraq War. “Why am I seen as such a divisive figure and, say, Joe Biden and John Kerry aren’t?” she asks. “They’ve cast votes of all kinds, including some they regret, just like me? What makes me such a lightning rod for fury?" "I’m really asking. I’m at a loss,” Clinton adds.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/350207-clinton-why-dont-biden-and-kerry-get-same-flak-as-me-for-iraq

Hillary once again points out the sexist double standards that she faces, but Atlas is going to say she needs to sit down and shut up.

She needs to sit down and shut up.

You ever tell any other person who lost that they need to do the same, or you just going to have the sexist double standard?

Dude, quit whiteknighting.