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« Reply #125 on: November 11, 2017, 07:55:13 AM »

Obama/Merkley or Obama/Sanders 2016!
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« Reply #126 on: November 11, 2017, 08:10:58 AM »

Bite the bullet and go with Cory Brooker
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« Reply #127 on: November 11, 2017, 08:14:44 AM »
« Edited: November 11, 2017, 09:28:32 AM by Parrotguy »

June 21st, 2016

2016 REPUBLICAN VEEPSTAKES, part 1: Trump struggling to convince popular Republicans that he can win



WASHINGTON, D.C. - Donald Trump has a problem. A big problem. Polls are showing him trailing President Obama anywhere between 10 and 20 points, with the incumbent President being popular with the electorate and the business mogul increasingly toxic thanks to his rhetoric. As a result, many Republican officeholders are, according to various sources, refusing to be considered for his running mate. Some have done so publicly- Senator Bob Corker (R-TN) recently said that he will "not be Donald Trump's running mate", and Senator Joni Ernst (R-IA) stated that she wishes to "focus" on her job as Senator and dropped out of consideration, after a chatter of rumours claimed that she was the leading candidate.

But others have done so less publicly, telling associates that they won't accept an offer to be Trump's Vice Presidential nominee, and this is turning into a problem for the Republican nominee... he just can't find a running mate. The names on various leaked shortlists reflect this- they include a heavy number of Trump loyalists and radical politicians from red states who would find it hard to appeal to the general electorate or help the Republicans in any key swing states. Let's look at these names and try to understand who could become Donald Trump's Vice Presidential nominee:


Name: Newton Leroy Gingrich
Age: 73
Past jobs: Member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Georgia's 6th district (1979-1999), Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives (1995-1999)
Why is he being considered: The leader of the 1994 Republican Revolution and a failed 2012 candidate, Gingrich did not endorse Trump in the primary but recently started to defend him. Outspoken and sharp, he's considered popular among conservatives and could help Trump to consolidate him, but could an old, 70+ white man be too similar to Trump for comfort?


Name: Benjamin Solomon Carson Sr.
Age: 65
Past jobs: Famous neurosurgeon and author
Why is he being considered: One of the early endorsers of Donald Trump and popular amongst conservatives, Ben Carson could be an attractive choice for Trump that would consolidate the Republican base and redouble on his outsider appeal. But Carson proved to be a sleepy campaigner, and his lack of experience, coupled with Trump's own lack of experience, could prove a problem.


Name: John Richard Kasich
Age: 64
Past jobs: Member of the Ohio Senate from the 15th district (1979-1983), Member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Ohio's 12th district (1983-2001), Governor of Ohio (2011-)
Why is he being considered: As a source inside the Trump campaign said, "John Kasich is the perfect running mate". Moderate, likeable, with a good record as Governor and Chairman of the House Budget Committee, and very popular, Kasich could brandish Trump's credibility considerably and add to his economic message. But there is one problem- Kasich seems very likely to refuse. Sources close to the Ohio Governor claim that Trump has already made repeated offers to Kasich, and while he still didn't make it public, he refused again and again. Kasich didn't endorse Trump, and seems to become a bigger critic with every passing day.


Name: Christopher James Christie
Age: 54
Past jobs: Member of the Morris County Board of Chosen Freeholders (1995-1997), United States Attorney for the District of New Jersey (2002-2008), Governor of New Jersey (2010-)
Why is he being considered: Chris Christie was, not a long time ago, a very attractive choice, and a leading Presidential contender- a moderate, popular Governor of a blue state who won a strong reelection. But the famous bridgegate scandal soured New Jersey and national voters on Christie, and his popularity slipped quickly- he now is one of the least popular governors in the country. Still, his early endorsement of Trump earned him favour with the business mogul, and if other, more popular choices refuse, Christie's experience could be attractive for Trump.


Name: Sarah Louise Palin
Age: 52
Past jobs: Member of the Wasilla City Council (1992-1996), Mayor of Wasilla (1996-2002), Chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission (2003-2004), Governor of Alaska (2006-2009)
Why is she being considered: In short, out of necessity. Trump has few willing options, which include John McCain's 2008 Vice Presidential nominee who has high ambitions and who enthusiastically endorsed Donald Trump. But, already having failed to propel a ticket to victory, it's hard to see what does Sarah Palin have to add, other than redoubling on Trump's brash rhetoric.


Name: Michael Richard Pence
Age: 57
Past jobs: Member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Indiana's 2nd/6th district (2001-2013), Governor of Indiana (2013-)
Why is he being considered: A staunch conservative with experience in both Congress and the Governor's mansion of Indiana, Pence might just be what Trump needs- a calm, experienced man who could sooth the Republican establishment while still appealing to white working class voters. But rumour has it that Pence is considering refusing the job, so it remains to be seen if Trump can have him on the ticket.


Name: Mary Fallin
Age: 61
Past jobs: Member of the Oklahoma House of Representatives from the 85th district (1990-1995), Lieutenant Governor of Oklahoma (1995-2007), Member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Oklahoma's 5th district (2007-2011), Governor of Oklahoma (2011-)
Why is she being considered: Fallin is a firebrand Tea Party conservative popular with the base, and possibly one of the few who would accept the position of Trump's running mate, but her rhetoric might be too resembling of Sarah Palin and her extreme conservative actions as Governor might alienate moderates.
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« Reply #128 on: November 11, 2017, 09:42:07 AM »

Obama/Brown , I guess.
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« Reply #129 on: November 11, 2017, 10:01:19 AM »
« Edited: November 13, 2017, 04:27:38 AM by Parrotguy »

June 21st, 2016

2016 REPUBLICAN VEEPSTAKES, part 2




Name: Scott Phillip Brown
Age: 57
Past jobs: Member of the Massachusetts House of Representatives from the 9th Norfolk district (1998-2004), Member of the Massachusetts Senate from the Norfolk, Bristol and Middlesex district (2004-2010), U.S. Senator from Massachusetts (2010-2013)
Why is he being considered: Brown earned nationwide reknown after surprisingly winning the special Senate election to replace Ted Kennedy in the bluest of blue states, Massachusetts. Even after losing the seat to Elizabeth Warren, he remained a Republican star, moderate and appealing to working class voters. But after carpetbagging to New Hampshire and failing to win the Senate race there in 2014, many voters consider him an opportunist. Still, Brown seems like the only moderate option willing to join Trump's ticket, so he could be a strong contender for the job.


Name: Marsha Blackburn
Age: 64
Past jobs: Member of the Tennessee Senate from the 23rd district (1999-2003), Member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Tennessee's 7th district (2003-)
Why is she being considered: Once again, out of necessity. Blackburn is considered an extreme conservative like Fallin, and her harsh views could alienate moderates. Still, she seems willing to join the ticket and is a fairly charismatic politician, popular with the Republican base.


Name: Refael Edward Cruz
Age: 45
Past jobs: Solicitor General of Texas (2003-2008), U.S. Senator from Texas (2013-)
Why is he being considered: Cruz, the runner-up of the Republican primaries, is very popular with a large chunk of the conservative electorate and could attract evangelicals, as well as brandish Trump's outsider appeal. But is he too extreme, and would he even agree to join the ticket after a very dirty campaign between himself and Trump in the primaries? It's noteable that the Texas Senator didn't even endorse Trump yet.


Name: Marco Antonio Rubio
Age: 45
Past jobs: Member of the Florida House of Representatives from the 111th district (2000-2008), U.S. Senator from Florida (2011-)
Why is he being considered: Despite his lackluster performance in the 2016 primaries, Rubio is still considered a Republican star, and could sooth the Republican establishment, as well as appeal to latino voters, if he joined Trump's ticket. But Rubio and Trump have a very strained past in the primaries, and he signaled an unwillingness to join the ticket. Potentially, he could be the best option after Kasich, but sources close to Rubio say he's contemplating jumping into the Florida Senate race in the last moment and try to seek reelection despite saying he won't.


Name: Michael Thomas Flynn
Age: 57
Past jobs: Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (2012-2014)
Why is he being considered: Retired General Flynn is a storng supporter of Trump and could strengthen his military credentials, but is a controversial man with controversial statesments. Could he be the wildcard pick for Donald Trump to rebrand himself?


Name: Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III
Age: 69
Past jobs: United States Attorney for the Southern District of Alabama (1981-1993), Attorney General of Alabama (1995-1997), U.S. Senator from Alabama (1997-)
Why is he being considered: Sessions is an early endorser of Trump- the first Senator to support him. He's an experienced congressman and a staunch conservative who could help unite the base, as well as a strong supporter of Trump's immigation agenda, but will allegations for racism sink him?


Name: James Henry Webb Jr.
Age: 70
Past jobs: Assistant Secretary of Defense for Reserve Affairs (1984-1987), Secretary of the Navy (1987-1988), U.S. Senator from Virginia (2007-2013)
Why is he being considered: Perhaps the most curious name to emerge from the Republican shortlist is a Democrat, and one who run in the 2016 primary, no less. But it comes as no surprise that Trump finds a kindered spirit in Webb- both are brash and populist, both try to appeal to disaffected white working class voters, both are considered outsiders. Webb refused to endorse anyone after dropping out of the Democratic Primary and even hinted at a third party run, and, when asked, said he "would not vote for Obama" but might vote for Trump. Choosing Webb could strengthen Trump among independents and veterans. However, his views are far too liberal for most Republicans, and he could incite a conservative revolt.

Other possible names: Governor Susana Martinez (R-NM), Senator Cory Gardener (R-CO), Senator Joni Ernst (R-IA), Senator Bob Corker (R-TN), Senator Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV), Ivanka Trump (R-NY)
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« Reply #130 on: November 11, 2017, 06:07:44 PM »

Gillibrand, Franken, and Brown are the best options for Obama.
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« Reply #131 on: November 11, 2017, 10:08:53 PM »

Provided Uncle Joe steps down:
Gillibrand, Franken, and Brown are the best options for Obama.
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« Reply #132 on: November 12, 2017, 08:24:57 AM »

June 29th, 2016

REPUBLICAN VEEPSTAKES - John Kasich takes himself out of VP contention: "I will not run or endorse Donald Trump"; Rubio to remain in Florida Senate race, Pence to run for reelection in Indiana



NEW YORK CITY - in a recent interview with CNN's Jake Tapper, Ohio Governor and former contender for the Republican nomination John Kasich officially took himself out of contention to become running mate for the party's nominee, Donald Trump. He denounced Trump in surprisingly fiery words, calling him "a danger to the conservative movement" and "a man who to stir to life some very uncomfortable, even racist memories." He also claimed that Trump's campaign manager called him and offered that if he agreed to run with the business mogul, he'd get the responsibility of governing the nation while Trump would "focus on 'Making America Great Again', as ridiculous as this sounds", the Ohio Governor told Tapper.

When asked if he would agree to become Trump's Vice Presidential nominee, after a source in the Trump campaign described him as "perfect", Kasich reaffirmed that he will "not, under any circumstances, run with Donald Trump", and furthermore, that he will not endorse the Republican nominee "who stands against my values and many of this party's values." However, the Ohio Governor refused to support President Obama or say who would he vote for and claimed that he's weighing his options. On a potential conservative third-party challenge, Kasich said that he "might" support such a move, but that he will not run himself.

In similar news, Marco Rubio, who decided, in August, to surprisingly jump into the race for his Senate seat despite promising not to, reaffirmed that he is running for reelection, essentially putting himself out of contention for Trump's second spot as well. And in what was seen as a big blow to the Trump campaign, which, according to various sources, was leaning towards choosing him for running mate, Indiana Governor Mike Pence declared that he ''will run for reelection in 2016", putting away any possibility of running with Trump. The move is attributed to the business mogul's bad polling numbers, with sources close to Pence saying that the Governor "worried about becoming part of a landslide defeat''.

These news narrowed the options considerably for Trump's VP choice. According to sources close to the Republican nominee, he's "angry and bitter" about Kasich's interview and Pence's decision, which causes him to favour a particular option- Jim Webb- as a kick in the face of the Republican establishment. The same sources claim that Ted Cruz and Sarah Palin are out of contention, leaving only a scarce few options for Trump, none of them particularly appealing- Carson, Christie, Gingrich, Fallin, Blackburn, Brown, Flynn, Sessions and Webb.

Trump campaign manager Cory Lewandowski refused to comment on the news, leaving only a short message claiming that "Donald Trump was not seriously considering these options". But the Republican candidate himself did comment:

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« Reply #133 on: November 12, 2017, 08:56:51 AM »

July 3rd, 2016

Sanders "won't be a running mate", prefers focus on Senate; Brown, Booker reportedly out of contention for next Obama VP



WASHINGTON, D.C. - Ending any speculations that President Obama is planning to choose him as running mate in order t o consolidate the Democratic base, Vermont Senator and Democratic runner-up Bernie Sanders announced in an interview that he will "not be a running mate", prefering to focus on "helping the President move progressive agenda in the Senate, and keeping him accountable". This preludes a possible struggle between Sanders and Obama on trade, healthcare and other issues if the President wins reelection for a third term.

The Democratic veepstakes narrowed further this week as credible sources inside the Obama campaign reported to the press that two Senators from states with Republican Governors, Sherrod Brown and Cory Booker, are out of contention. While Booker had a slim chance to be chosen, given his similarity to Barack Obama and the disdain in which he's held by Bernie Sanders' supporters, Sherrod Brown was considered a very attractive option, supported by many Democrats. But apparently, with the Senate uncertain in 2016 and, even more so, in 2018, the Obama campaign decided that the prospect of losing a Senate seat to the Republicans is not worth it.

Rumours continue to swirl that Biden will withdraw from the ticket- his son, Hunter Biden, has recently said that his father was "contemplating the matter" and that even hinting that the Vice President is supportive of "presenting a fresh face". Sources close to Biden claim that he will be making his decision in the coming days.
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« Reply #134 on: November 12, 2017, 09:51:14 AM »

Wow, I didn't know that good timelines were still produced! The real mystery, I suppose, is if Bush himself is short-sighted enough to seek a third term in 2008, and if so, whether the GOP is even willing to accept it.

I imagine Hillary's alleged electability was harmed, regardless of whether or not she ran against an incumbent President, owing to the fact that the most recent general election featuring the Clintons was a loss.
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« Reply #135 on: November 12, 2017, 05:01:51 PM »

Great timeline!

I like the presentation of potential running mates (I'll consider that for my own TL). Just a minor correction: Flynn wasn't 70 in 2016 Wink
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« Reply #136 on: November 13, 2017, 05:23:31 AM »

July 4th, 2016

BREAKING: Biden won't seek reelection as Vice President


WASHINGTON, D.C. - Making his decision official in a White House press conference on the 4th of July, Vice President Joe Biden, joined by President Barack Obama and his wife Jill Biden, announced that he will not run for another term as Vice President. In a bittersweet message, Biden said that "it's time for a fresh face to join our President on the ticket" and that "it's time for a new generation of progressive leaders to rise". Biden thanked Obama and the American people from the bottom of his heart for the "tremendous honour of serving as your Vice President".

Still very popular with the public, Biden promised to work hard and campaign with his friend to "give Barack four more years to do his wonderful work", and did not rule out a potential role in the next Obama administration. The Republican candidate, of course, was quick to reply:



With that, the veepstakes on the Democratic side became much more contentious, with various strong candidates all being considered for the spot. As Donald Trump struggles to find his own running mate, many eyes are now turned towards the Democratic nominee, the incumbent President, and recent reports indicate that the vetting process for a few of the candidates is already underway. Some of these candidates are rumoured to be Senator Jeff Merkley (D-OR), Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY), Senator Al Franken (D-MN) and Governor John Hickenlooper (D-CO), whose name recently rose up as a strong potential running mate, despite objections from some in the left.

Another important piece of news came yesterday, as Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) ruled out joining President Obama's ticket, saying that "my work is in the Senate". Various sources claim that the reason for this was the Obama campaign signaling to her that she won't be chosen. Two other names which are reportedly out of contention are Melinda Gates, who is, according to sources inside the Obama campaign, too much to stomach for the Sanders wing of the party, and LA Mayor Eric Garcetti who was reportedly urged by Obama allies to run for office in 2018. Instead, two different names are being floated as strong contenders- the afformentioned John Hickenlooper and Senator Martin Heinrich (D-NM). Let's examine them briefly:


Name: John Wright Hickenlooper Jr.
Age: 64
Past jobs: Mayor of Denver (2003-2011), Governor of Colorado (2011-)
Why is he being considered: One of the only Democratic Governors hailing frrm a swing state (although one with polls heavily favouring the President) and a popular one at that, Hickenlooper has a clear appeal- he'd be a non-Senator on the ticket who could claim to be far away from the Washington establishment, and his experience could prove valuable. However, opposition from the left for his moderate positions could harm his chances, and it's unclear how much experience is needed on a ticket with an incumbent President.


Name: Martin Trevor Heinrich
Age: 45
Past jobs: Member of the U.S. House of Representatives from New Mexico's 1st district (2009-2013), U.S. Senator from New Mexico (2013-)
Why is he being considered: Young, folksy, with good looks and hailing from a non-coastal state, Heinrich has an obvious appeal and could compliment President Obama well. But is he too moderate for progressives to stomach?
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« Reply #137 on: November 13, 2017, 05:45:21 AM »
« Edited: November 13, 2017, 05:54:33 AM by Parrotguy »

Wow, I didn't know that good timelines were still produced! The real mystery, I suppose, is if Bush himself is short-sighted enough to seek a third term in 2008, and if so, whether the GOP is even willing to accept it.

I imagine Hillary's alleged electability was harmed, regardless of whether or not she ran against an incumbent President, owing to the fact that the most recent general election featuring the Clintons was a loss.

Thanks! There are actually many great TLs being written rn, mine is not close to being the best of them Tongue
Also, yeah, the 2008 primary will be covered soon. Hillary is still quite formidable, and starts out as the frontrunner, but there are other formidable contenders ready to jump in- 2004 Vice Presidential nominee Howard Dean and Senator John Kerry, for example.

Great timeline!

I like the presentation of potential running mates (I'll consider that for my own TL). Just a minor correction: Flynn wasn't 70 in 2016 Wink

Thanks, it's a honour! Also, yeah, fixed Smiley



Now that we're done with reducing the Vice Presidential lists a bit, it's time for the (non-binding) referendum! Tongue The chosen candidates will become formidable potential candidates in 2020, so choose wisely, because right now I still have no idea who to choose!
Thos who voter have any suggestions for additional candidates, please do tell me- I'll take them into consideration. And I'd be glad if whoever votes in the poll comments his decision, it'll be nice to hear read some voices. Let the voting begin!

EDIT: I seemed to have made this a one-vote poll, which is quite counter-productive. If anyone knows how to edit a poll, or even just delete it without destroying the post, please do tell!
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« Reply #138 on: November 13, 2017, 10:31:36 AM »

I'd be done with Heinrich
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« Reply #139 on: November 13, 2017, 12:43:42 PM »

Trump/Webb!
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« Reply #140 on: November 15, 2017, 01:56:39 PM »

First time seeing this one but wouldn't Wisconsin have been a better choice in 2000 to give Bush his theoretical 270+?
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« Reply #141 on: November 16, 2017, 11:00:20 AM »

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« Reply #142 on: November 16, 2017, 12:03:21 PM »

First time seeing this one but wouldn't Wisconsin have been a better choice in 2000 to give Bush his theoretical 270+?

I wanted to show that Clinton was able to keep the trends at bay for now in 2000 and win Arkansas, keeping Missouri extremely close.
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« Reply #143 on: November 16, 2017, 12:26:26 PM »

Until this TL I had no idea that Marsha Blackburn was 65 years old.  I thought she was maybe in her mid-50s.
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« Reply #144 on: November 18, 2017, 07:05:17 AM »

July 6th, 2016

Donald Trump announces surprise pick for running mate- Retired General Mike Flynn

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July 9th, 2016

Flynn choice causes a firestorm- Russian ties, tenure at DIA scrutinized; conservative third party rumours swirling again



WASHINGTON, D.C. - He was only chosen as Donald Trump's running mate three days ago, but already, retired General Mike Flynn is knee-deep in mud. Washington Post recently released a photo where Flynn is seated in a RT galla in the same table with Vladimir Putin (and Green Party nominee Jill Stein, who also faced backlash), as well as interviews where Flynn is quoted defending the network, which is considered the Kremlin's propaganda arm in the U.S.

Along with his connections to Russia, Flynn's tenure as director of the DIA was also scrutinzied- according to The New York Times, he exhibited a loose relationship with facts, leading his subordinates to refer to Flynn's repeated dubious assertions as "Flynn facts". Vice President Joe Biden claimed in an interview that Flynn was "abusive towards his subordinates" and "just not a good manager", a claim confirmed by President Obama.

The scandals are already causing prominent Republican officials to call for Flynn to be dropped from the not-yet-nominated ticket. Speaker Paul Ryan, who has been withholding his endorsement from Trump, said that "Flynn is a dangerous choice that must be reverted as soon as possible", RNC Chairman Reince Priebus told press that he hopes Trump makes the "right choice" and "takes someone with better experience as his running mate", and 2008 nominee John McCain spoke in a fiery tone about the "disgrace" in Flynn's choice, saying that he "cannot support a nominee who makes such a bad choice."

The backlash increased the whispers about a possible third-party conservative challenger to Obama and Trump. 2012 nominee Mitt Romney said that he would "absolutely support" such a challenger, but that he won't run himself, and Ohio Governor John Kasich echoed Romney's statement, saying that he needs to focus on his job as Governor, but that he would "love it if someone steps up." New polling released today indicates that a challenger could be successful in gaining a large following:

Barack Obama vs Donald Trump (General)
Barack Obama- 52%  (+1)
Donald Trump- 38%  (-2)
Other/Undecided- 10 %  (+1)
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Barack Obama vs Donald Trump vs Gary Johnson vs Jill Stein (General)
Barack Obama- 50%  (+1)
Donald Trump- 36%  (-2)
Gary Johnson- 7%  (+1)
Jill Stein- 1%  (+-0)
Other/Undecided- 9 %  (+-0)
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Barack Obama vs Donald Trump vs Gary Johnson vs Jill Stein vs Conservative Challenger (General)
Barack Obama- 47%  (-2)
Donald Trump- 31%  (-8)
Conservative Challenger- 11%  (+11)
Gary Johnson- 4%   (-2)
Jill Stein- 1%  (+-0)
Other/Undecided- 6%  (-2)
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« Reply #146 on: November 18, 2017, 07:59:55 AM »

Martin Heinrich would be a good choice out of this list.
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« Reply #147 on: November 18, 2017, 11:33:36 AM »
« Edited: November 18, 2017, 02:03:08 PM by Parrotguy »

July 10th, 2016

BREAKING: Jon Huntsman declares independent Presidential bid; calls Trump 'a disaster in the making'



SALT LAKE CITY - For months the rumours have been swirling that a conservative challenger to Donald Trump was going to emerge. Now, it finally did.

Former Governor and Ambassador to China Jon Huntsman (R-UT) announced an independent challenge to Republican nominee Donald Trump and incumbent President Barack Obama in the biggest city of his homestate. Huntsman attacked Trump from both right and left, calling him "not a true conservative" and "a dangerous demagogue." He also called on Republican elected officials to support him, saying that "this is an election about making the moral choice, the right choice" and that he is the only one representing "conservatives who see Trump's protectionism, his disturbing closeness with Russia and his terrible judgement and are frightened."

Speculations already started about Huntsman's running mate- his campaign teased someone with "national prominence", and according to various leaks, some of the options include Colin Powell, Brian Sandoval, Condoleezza Rice, Richard Hanna, Tom Coburn, Ben Sasse and retired Marine Corps General James Mattis. Huntsman, who is already gathering signatures at a fast pace with a prepared infaustracture of activists and donors, is expected to make the choice in the coming days.

The challenge worries many inside the Trump campaign and the RNC, especially as Huntsman has a strong appeal to Mormons, a demographic which, according to the polls, has strong disapproval of the Republican nominee. He also appeals to moderate conservative subarbanites, which might hurt Trump in states like Virginia, Pennsylvania and North Carolina. Polls conduct after Huntsman's entrance show him doing worse than a generic challenger, but still polling pretty high:

Barack Obama vs Donald Trump vs Jon Huntsman vs Gary Johnson vs Jill Stein (General)
Barack Obama- 48%  (+1)
Donald Trump- 32%  (+1)
Jon Huntsman- 9%  (-2)
Gary Johnson- 4%  (+-0)
Jill Stein- 1%  (+-0)
Other/Undecided- 6%  (+-0)
OBAMA +16

This prompted RNC chairman Reince Priebus to call for Huntsman to withdraw and to claim that "Huntsman is doing a great disservice to the Conservative movement". And, of course, the Republican nominee responded as expected:

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« Reply #148 on: November 18, 2017, 12:17:23 PM »
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July 12th, 2016

Trump drops Flynn from ticket after outrage, scrambles to find a new running mate; Obama VP search continues



NEW YORK CITY - the tumultuous, stormy 2016 campaign continues, as the outcry after Trump chose Mike Flynn as his running mate finally took its toll, with the Republican nominee dropping his choice for running mate from the ticket. The Trump campaign released a short statement saying that "Michael Flynn is no longer the running mate for Donald Trump; we will choose another soon."

The campaign refused to respond to questions about the reasons for Flynn's dismissal, but they're quite clear- he became an albatross that Trump couldn't carry. After Flynn was called a "terrible" DIA director and accused for defending Russia, former Utah Governor Jon Huntsman declared an independent Presidential bid and Republican officials pressed Trump to replace Flynn, the Republican nominee badly needed a fresh start for his campaign, and so, succumbed to the pressure.

While the Trump campaign suffers blow after blow and appears to be managed chaotically, the Obama campaign is calmly and quietly working on vetting the various candidates for Vice President. According to sources inside the President's campaign, various figures are out of consideration: Secretary Julián Castro (D-TX), Secretary Tom Vilsack (D-IA), Senator Amy Klobucher (D-MN), Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) and Senator Al Franken (D-MN), who, noteably, appeared to have been "vetted out" after nearly being chosen.

This leaves the Obama veepstakes much narrower than they were- Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA), Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY), Senator Jeff Merkley (D-OR), Governor John Hickenlooper (D-CO) and Senator Martin Heinrich (D-NM) are the names circulating most shortlists. But in the last days, another name rose to prominence and seems to be strongly considered by the Obama campaign- Senator Tammy Baldwin (D-WI). Let's examine her shortly:


Name: Tammy Suzanne Green Baldwin
Age: 54
Past jobs: Member of the Wisconsin State Assembly from the 78th district (1993-1999), Member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Wisconsin's 2nd district (1999-2013), U.S. Senator from Wisconsin (2013-)
Why is she being considered: Baldwin is a lesbian woman who could excite female and lgbtq voters, especially in light of Trump's weakness with them. She's a progressive who's paltable both to the Sanders wing and to the establishment wing of the Democratic party. She hails from a semi-swing state, and she wouldn't necessarily be replaced by a Republican in the Senate, as Wisconsin laws do not allow an interim appointment by the Governor and call for a special election soon after the vacancy. So on the paper, it's not hard to see why is she being considered. But will Obama take the plunge and choose a candidate who could be potentially dangerous, especially in light of recent chaos around Trump's running mate search?
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July 15th, 2016

REPORT: Jim Webb says 'no' to Donald Trump VP offer; won't endorse any candidate



RICHMOND - In an interview with MSNBC, former Senator and Presidential contender Jim Webb (D-VA) shut down speculations that he could be chosen as Donald Trump's running mate, saying that "there is no way I will run on that ticket." Webb continued to affirm that he will "not vote for Donald Trump", and seemed to walk back on previous statements ruling out supporting President Obama by claiming that he's "still weighing his options."

Jim Webb confirmed that he was approached, "various times", by the Trump campaign to join the business mogul's ticket, but that he "turned them down each time." The former Senator seemed to echo, and perhaps confirm, claims previously made by John Kasich that Trump offered his favoured candidates for running mate considerable power by saying that "they basically begged for me to join, and told me that I'll be responsible for most governing duties."

Meanwhile, the rumour mill about the veepstakes in both parties continues- according to various sources, Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) won't be Barack Obama's running mate, and the incumbent President's campaign is "heavily contemplating" Senators Martin Heinrich (D-NM), Tammy Baldwin (D-WI) and Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY), though Governor John Hickenlooper (D-CO) and Senator Jeff Merkley (D-OR) are still options.

Donald Trump, at the same time, is reportedly "deeply frustrated" with his VP struggles, after many prominent Republicans refused to run on the same ticket with him, the Flynn choice backfired, and now Jim Webb, a possible wildcard choice Trump had, said "no" as well. There are now claims from credible sources that Trump is zeroing in on Governor Chris Christie (R-NJ), former Senator Scott Brown (R-MA) and Governor Mary Fallin (R-OK).

As his troubles continue, polls are showing that Trump continues polling very badly, and that Jon Huntsman, the independent conservative candidate, is gaining ground:

Barack Obama vs Donald Trump (General)
Barack Obama- 51%  (+2)
Donald Trump- 40%  (-1)
Other/Undecided- 9%  (-1)
OBAMA +11

Barack Obama vs Donald Trump vs Jon Huntsman vs Gary Johnson vs Jill Stein (General)
Barack Obama- 47%  (-1)
Donald Trump- 31%  (-1)
Jon Huntsman- 11%  (+2)
Gary Johnson- 4%  (+-0)
Jill Stein- 0%  (-1)
Other/Undecided- 7%  (+1)
OBAMA +16
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