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Unapologetic Chinaperson
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« on: August 27, 2017, 07:32:05 PM »

Apologies for the blatant self-promotion, but here's a copy-paste of the 2036 map from my timeline. (Ignore the expanded EV counts.)



This is what I envision a socially liberal Republican victory would look like, with California barely but decisively going Republican. In my timeline, I have the Republican nominee be the perfect fit for Calfornia (feminist Asian woman who served as Cali governor), which actually goes to show that it would actually be quite difficult to get California to flip (you'd have to max out Asians and upscale whites while also getting a decent portion of Hispanics).

Meanwhile, I have most of the Midwest going GOP, while the South is divided based on their income and race (the former is why Georgia goes GOP; the latter is why Mississippi goes Dem). Kentucky and WV go Dem (and Tennessee nearly so) as a reaction against a "coastal elite" GOP. In the Northeast, you have "ancestral" Democrats allowing Massachusetts, Vermont, etc. go Dem, when income would predict that the GOP should sweep the region.
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Unapologetic Chinaperson
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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2017, 10:38:10 PM »
« Edited: August 27, 2017, 10:40:36 PM by TX is Stronger than Harvey »

Why did IL go Dem?  Were there enough "ancestral" Chicago Democrats turning out?


Yeah basically, plus the Democrats will still be the "urban" party. Chicago's not going to shrink that much in population, would it?

Honestly, a more interesting question would be why Michigan goes Dem (since Detroit is smaller and declining faster than Chicago). It's Dem on this map due to circumstances specific to my timeline; in general, it's likely that it would behave more like its GOP-leaning neighbors.
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2017, 08:39:47 AM »

Why did IL go Dem?  Were there enough "ancestral" Chicago Democrats turning out?


Yeah basically, plus the Democrats will still be the "urban" party. Chicago's not going to shrink that much in population, would it?

Honestly, a more interesting question would be why Michigan goes Dem (since Detroit is smaller and declining faster than Chicago). It's Dem on this map due to circumstances specific to my timeline; in general, it's likely that it would behave more like its GOP-leaning neighbors.
I don't think Chicago will shrink *that* much either.  However, if the GOP is becoming a more secular, global-minded, and fiscally conservative party, the people living in the Cook, DuPage, Lake, etc. suburbs, should be returning home to the GOP in enough numbers to give Illinois to the GOP.


The past 8 months of Trump's presidency have shattered any façade that Trumpism  actually is a socially moderate, global-minded fiscal conservative.
My post was in response to NJ's characterization of IL in the 2030s on his/her "Sun and Moon" political fanfic.


Yeah, since the GOP becoming more socially liberal and way less Trumpist is a big part of that timeline. If the GOP doesn't do that (which has a nonzero chance of happening), and instead remains a reactionary socon party, then expect Illinois to be Safe D (rather than Lean D or Tossup).
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