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March 08, 2021, 07:53:52 AM

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  2016: Fmr. SoS Hillary Clinton (D-NY) vs. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)
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« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2017, 12:11:17 PM »

I donít think Ayotte would be the running mate with Rubio. I think the Republicans would want a True Believer and not a pro-choice running mate.
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« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2017, 12:31:47 PM »

If Rubio's glass jaw doesn't shatter:



Rubio/Kasich: 276 EV
Clinton/Kaine: 262 EV

Popular vote is anyone's guess, Rubio, IMHO eeks it out here. New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada, Virginia, and North Carolina are all decided by less than 3%. Hillary does better in Ohio and Iowa than OTL, but still loses them by 5% or more. She also loses Florida by a bigger margin.

If Hillary shatters the glass ceiling and the glass jaw:



Clinton/Kaine: 285 EV
Rubio/Kasich: 253 EV

She wins the popular vote by around the same margin that she did against Trump. As is the case with a Rubio victory, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada, Virginia, and North Carolina are all decided by less than 3% but in this case so are Iowa and Maine's Second District, which she wins, and Ohio. Florida goes unchanged from the Rubio victory scenario. I know a lot of people think or thought Hillary had a landslide in the bag, but even in 2015 and 2016 I didn't think it was the case. She's no Bill Clinton or Barack Obama when it comes to campaigning and it's hard for a party to win a 3rd consecutive election. The only time against Trump that I thought she'd meet or exceed Obama's 2012 margin of victory was after the access Hollywood tape came out, but once the Comey letter came out, that changed.
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« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2017, 12:34:20 PM »

I donít think Ayotte would be the running mate with Rubio. I think the Republicans would want a True Believer and not a pro-choice running mate.

fair point, but ayotte is pro life.
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« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2017, 10:10:07 AM »

Rubio is an awful candidate, Clinton wins

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« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2021, 05:33:31 AM »



Marco Rubio: 312 electoral votes
Hillary Clinton: 226 electoral votes

CO, MN and VA are the closest states.
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« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2021, 06:51:50 AM »



Marco Rubio: 312 electoral votes
Hillary Clinton: 226 electoral votes

CO, MN and VA are the closest states.

I would flip WI as only 33 % of Wisconsinites thought Clinton was honest and trustworthy. With numbers like that, you donít win WI as a Democrat.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls/wisconsin/president
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« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2021, 05:02:22 PM »



Marco Rubio: 312 electoral votes
Hillary Clinton: 226 electoral votes

CO, MN and VA are the closest states.

I would flip WI as only 33 % of Wisconsinites thought Clinton was honest and trustworthy. With numbers like that, you donít win WI as a Democrat.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls/wisconsin/president

WI would've been possible as well.
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