Kamala Harris' husband is a white man. Will that be an issue w black voters?
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« Reply #75 on: May 04, 2021, 10:53:09 AM »

To answer the OP question

Literally no one cares she is married to a white man. There is not a single voter in this country who was going to vote for Harris but won't because she is married to a white man.

People dislike her. There are valid reasons and not valid reasons. This is not a valid reason. This is a BS reason that people will say to mask their ignorant reasons. Its #butheremails all over again
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« Reply #76 on: May 04, 2021, 12:46:40 PM »

kamala is not black! do you people have eyes?
Yes she is

In America, anyone with African ancestry is considered black. The legacy of the one drop rule is strong. That is why mixed race children are called either mixed or black, but never white. Kamala's father is from Jamaica, whose ancestry is from Africa.

Does the black community in the United States claim her as one of their own? For the most part. She isn't any different from Obama (whose father was from Kenya) but for some reason Obama was "one of them".

The black community consider Harris one of them, but not that much
*Anyone with significant or noticeable African ancestry, that is. The interesting thing about Kamala is that her racial background (half Black/half Indian) is common in Jamaica and the rest of the Anglophone Caribbean.

Jamaica (and other Anglophone Caribbean countries like Trinidad, Guyana, etc) has a sizable population of people of Indian descent (whether full or partial). They are the descendants of Indian indentured servants who were brought to the Caribbean by the British during the 1800s and early 1900s. They were brought to the Caribbean to do the work in the plantation fields after slavery ended in the 1830s in the British-controlled Caribbean.

Indo-Jamaicans (whether full or partial) are culturally different from Indians directly from current day India though. Most Indo-Jamaicans are culturally and socially the same as Afro-Jamaicans. Also, Indo-Jamaicans will almost always identify as "Jamaican" first and foremost and not as "Indian". There is the legendary dancehall artist Super Cat and he is half Afro-Jamaican and Indo-Jamaican. Miss World 2019 Toni-Ann Singh is also half Afro-Jamaican and Indo-Jamaican.

The most common term for a person who is half Indian/half Black in the Caribbean is "Dougla". However, in Jamaica, the term "coolie" (which can also refer to someone who is fully of Indian descent) is more common. Some consider the term "coolie" to be offensive but in Jamaica it isn't considered to be offensive (for the most part).
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« Reply #77 on: May 04, 2021, 01:06:00 PM »

kamala is not black! do you people have eyes?
Yes she is

In America, anyone with African ancestry is considered black. The legacy of the one drop rule is strong. That is why mixed race children are called either mixed or black, but never white. Kamala's father is from Jamaica, whose ancestry is from Africa.

Does the black community in the United States claim her as one of their own? For the most part. She isn't any different from Obama (whose father was from Kenya) but for some reason Obama was "one of them".

The black community consider Harris one of them, but not that much
*Anyone with significant or noticeable African ancestry, that is. The interesting thing about Kamala is that her racial background (half Black/half Indian) is common in Jamaica and the rest of the Anglophone Caribbean.

Jamaica (and other Anglophone Caribbean countries like Trinidad, Guyana, etc) has a sizable population of people of Indian descent (whether full or partial). They are the descendants of Indian indentured servants who were brought to the Caribbean by the British during the 1800s and early 1900s. They were brought to the Caribbean to do the work in the plantation fields after slavery ended in the 1830s in the British-controlled Caribbean.

Indo-Jamaicans (whether full or partial) are culturally different from Indians directly from current day India though. Most Indo-Jamaicans are culturally and socially the same as Afro-Jamaicans. Also, Indo-Jamaicans will almost always identify as "Jamaican" first and foremost and not as "Indian". There is the legendary dancehall artist Super Cat and he is half Afro-Jamaican and Indo-Jamaican. Miss World 2019 Toni-Ann Singh is also half Afro-Jamaican and Indo-Jamaican.

The most common term for a person who is half Indian/half Black in the Caribbean is "Dougla". However, in Jamaica, the term "coolie" (which can also refer to someone who is fully of Indian descent) is more common. Some consider the term "coolie" to be offensive but in Jamaica it isn't considered to be offensive (for the most part).
Thank you. As a history teacher, this was fascinating to read!

How would someone of Obama's ancestry be viewed in Kenya? Here in the United States he was grouped as "African-American" (which is more accurate for him) or just "black". It did help he married a black women and made his career out of Chicago.

I have heard that mixed people in Africa tend to have more money, power, and influence just because they are usually the children of powerful men who bought white women from Central Asia like Isabel dos Santos who is the richest women in Africa (before going on the run)
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« Reply #78 on: May 04, 2021, 02:49:53 PM »

Thank you. As a history teacher, this was fascinating to read!

How would someone of Obama's ancestry be viewed in Kenya? Here in the United States he was grouped as "African-American" (which is more accurate for him) or just "black". It did help he married a black women and made his career out of Chicago.

I have heard that mixed people in Africa tend to have more money, power, and influence just because they are usually the children of powerful men who bought white women from Central Asia like Isabel dos Santos who is the richest women in Africa (before going on the run)
Well, both of my parents are Jamaican so that's why I was able to tell you all of that lol. Both of my parents are Afro-Jamaican though.

Based on the info that I gathered: In Kenya, they classify people by their ethnic group/tribe. Obama's father was ethnically Luo and so Obama would be considered as Luo or a mixed Luo. Many will also consider him to be just another biracial/black American. Many Luo people in Kenya are apparently very proud of Obama.
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