What are the Democratic Party's PR/optics weaknesses?

[Devout Centrist]

The SJW bogeyman is one of the best things the GOP has going for them. You have former left-wingers like Michael here who've deluded themselves into thinking the never-ending culture wars actually have a measurable effect on their lives.

Great turnout strategy for them.

We're ed because people like Michael decided a brain dead birdman was the best choice for President

[Strudelcutie4427]

The SJW bogeyman is one of the best things the GOP has going for them. You have former left-wingers like Michael here who've deluded themselves into thinking the never-ending culture wars actually have a measurable effect on their lives.

Great turnout strategy for them.

We're ed because people like Michael decided a brain dead birdman was the best choice for President

Says a guy who thinks socialism is a great idea...

[The_Texas_Libertarian]

The SJW bogeyman is one of the best things the GOP has going for them. You have former left-wingers like Michael here who've deluded themselves into thinking the never-ending culture wars actually have a measurable effect on their lives.

Great turnout strategy for them.

We're ed because people like Michael decided a brain dead birdman was the best choice for President

Which is really saying something about Hillary and Trump.

[heatcharger]

The SJW bogeyman is one of the best things the GOP has going for them. You have former left-wingers like Michael here who've deluded themselves into thinking the never-ending culture wars actually have a measurable effect on their lives.

Great turnout strategy for them.

So what are the Democrats going to do about it?  How are they going to win me back?  Or do the Democrats think insulting me is going get my vote again?

I don't know, but I suppose if there were ever any concrete reasons for why you were a liberal/progressive in the first place, perhaps the thought of millions of people having their health care ripped away from them by a Republican-controlled government would lead you back to supporting the party that wants to expand coverage to as many Americans as possible. But that may be too much of an SJW issue.

[The_Texas_Libertarian]

The SJW bogeyman is one of the best things the GOP has going for them. You have former left-wingers like Michael here who've deluded themselves into thinking the never-ending culture wars actually have a measurable effect on their lives.

Great turnout strategy for them.

So what are the Democrats going to do about it?  How are they going to win me back?  Or do the Democrats think insulting me is going get my vote again?

I don't know, but I suppose if there were ever any concrete reasons for why you were a liberal/progressive in the first place, perhaps the thought of millions of people having their health care ripped away from them by a Republican-controlled government would lead you back to supporting the party that wants to expand coverage to as many Americans as possible. But that may be too much of an SJW issue.

Renewable energy, environmental protection, non-interventionism, infrastructure spending, I'd probably even be on board with an agenda as radical as including UBI.  However, the patronizing attitude of the bolded section is obviously why I am not a Democrat anymore.  I swear if one doesn't follow the straight and narrow as defined by the base you are basically persona non grata

[Strudelcutie4427]

The SJW bogeyman is one of the best things the GOP has going for them. You have former left-wingers like Michael here who've deluded themselves into thinking the never-ending culture wars actually have a measurable effect on their lives.

Great turnout strategy for them.

So what are the Democrats going to do about it?  How are they going to win me back?  Or do the Democrats think insulting me is going get my vote again?

I don't know, but I suppose if there were ever any concrete reasons for why you were a liberal/progressive in the first place, perhaps the thought of millions of people having their health care ripped away from them by a Republican-controlled government would lead you back to supporting the party that wants to expand coverage to as many Americans as possible. But that may be too much of an SJW issue.

Renewable energy, environmental protection, non-interventionism, infrastructure spending, I'd probably even be on board with an agenda as radical as including UBI.  However, the patronizing attitude of the bolded section is obviously why I am not a Democrat anymore.  I swear if one doesn't follow the straight and narrow as defined by the base you are basically persona non grata in the Democratic party

Dude, its the same at my school. I have a friend whos extremely liberal, gay, and smokes pot but he doesn't think government should be giving out free health care or pandering to certain groups and he got called a "fag Hitler" by some SJWs

[heatcharger]

The SJW bogeyman is one of the best things the GOP has going for them. You have former left-wingers like Michael here who've deluded themselves into thinking the never-ending culture wars actually have a measurable effect on their lives.

Great turnout strategy for them.

So what are the Democrats going to do about it?  How are they going to win me back?  Or do the Democrats think insulting me is going get my vote again?

I don't know, but I suppose if there were ever any concrete reasons for why you were a liberal/progressive in the first place, perhaps the thought of millions of people having their health care ripped away from them by a Republican-controlled government would lead you back to supporting the party that wants to expand coverage to as many Americans as possible. But that may be too much of an SJW issue.

Renewable energy, environmental protection, non-interventionism, infrastructure spending, I'd probably even be on board with an agenda as radical as including UBI.  However, the patronizing attitude of the bolded section is obviously why I am not a Democrat anymore.  I swear if one doesn't follow the straight and narrow as defined by the base you are basically persona non grata

Haha, okay dude. I'm usually against rigid litmus tests, but as a general rule, Democrats are in favor of making sure more Americans have health coverage than less. If this is not at all important to you, I don't know why you were a Democrat in the first place.

[The_Texas_Libertarian]

The SJW bogeyman is one of the best things the GOP has going for them. You have former left-wingers like Michael here who've deluded themselves into thinking the never-ending culture wars actually have a measurable effect on their lives.

Great turnout strategy for them.

So what are the Democrats going to do about it?  How are they going to win me back?  Or do the Democrats think insulting me is going get my vote again?

I don't know, but I suppose if there were ever any concrete reasons for why you were a liberal/progressive in the first place, perhaps the thought of millions of people having their health care ripped away from them by a Republican-controlled government would lead you back to supporting the party that wants to expand coverage to as many Americans as possible. But that may be too much of an SJW issue.

Renewable energy, environmental protection, non-interventionism, infrastructure spending, I'd probably even be on board with an agenda as radical as including UBI.  However, the patronizing attitude of the bolded section is obviously why I am not a Democrat anymore.  I swear if one doesn't follow the straight and narrow as defined by the base you are basically persona non grata in the Democratic party

Dude, its the same at my school. I have a friend whos extremely liberal, gay, and smokes pot but he doesn't think government should be giving out free health care or pandering to certain groups and he got called a "fag Hitler" by some SJWs

Sounds like another potential member of the new libertarian club.

I was cast as a "Trump supporter/anti-woman" guy because I think life begins at conception.  However I am pro-choice because I think the life of the woman matters more during the time of pregnancy than the unborn child and removing the potential option of abortion would be cruel in many scenarios.  I find dismissing a fetus as a non-human is scientifically absurd, and the party that alleges to be pro-science should know better.

I literally agreed with the same policy position as the left on abortion, but for a difference reason, and that is enough to have me kicked out.

[falling apart like the ashes of American flags]

BTW, I am a straight white male. So why is it this stuff doesn't bother me or make me feel threatened?

Hahaha sure.

I'm not voting based on it, am I?

Like someone who believes that 90% of white teenagers are Nazis really has any room to speak on this.

[falling apart like the ashes of American flags]

BTW, I am a straight white male. So why is it this stuff doesn't bother me or make me feel threatened?

It probably depends on your level of interaction with it.  Everyone is an individual and has different experiences.  That's why I don't asking you "as a straight white male" because it reduces you to some biological traits.  You have a life as a straight white man that is entirely different from a straight white man in the south or in Montana.  Heck, you may have had a neighbor who was straight, white and male who had some experiences in his life that deeply impacted him and not you.  One straight white man may have been emotionally abused as a child, another may have had a real easy going life.  

This is why I despise the SJW crowd who try to reduce everything to skin color, sexual orientation and gender and then build a hierarchy of victimhood.

And I don't disagree with any of that. Neither does from what I can tell, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders or any other prominent Democratic politician.

Also I live in f[inks]ing Minneapolis, so if this stuff was as widespread and universal as you claim, I think I would be seeing hordes of it here of all places.

[falling apart like the ashes of American flags]

BTW, I am a straight white male. So why is it this stuff doesn't bother me or make me feel threatened?

Hahaha sure.

I'm not voting based on it, am I?

Like someone who believes that 90% of white teenagers are Nazis really has any room to speak on this.

Sounds like you're gonna be voting based on it in about 10 years. Face it BRTD; you're old.

You see, I only vote based on actual policies, what some pronoun some dumbass wants to be referred to as is not a matter of government policy.

People have been predicting that I would be turning Republican "in ten years" since I started posting here dude. Has never happened.

[Strudelcutie4427]

The SJW bogeyman is one of the best things the GOP has going for them. You have former left-wingers like Michael here who've deluded themselves into thinking the never-ending culture wars actually have a measurable effect on their lives.

Great turnout strategy for them.

So what are the Democrats going to do about it?  How are they going to win me back?  Or do the Democrats think insulting me is going get my vote again?

I don't know, but I suppose if there were ever any concrete reasons for why you were a liberal/progressive in the first place, perhaps the thought of millions of people having their health care ripped away from them by a Republican-controlled government would lead you back to supporting the party that wants to expand coverage to as many Americans as possible. But that may be too much of an SJW issue.

Renewable energy, environmental protection, non-interventionism, infrastructure spending, I'd probably even be on board with an agenda as radical as including UBI.  However, the patronizing attitude of the bolded section is obviously why I am not a Democrat anymore.  I swear if one doesn't follow the straight and narrow as defined by the base you are basically persona non grata in the Democratic party

Dude, its the same at my school. I have a friend whos extremely liberal, gay, and smokes pot but he doesn't think government should be giving out free health care or pandering to certain groups and he got called a "fag Hitler" by some SJWs

Sounds like another potential member of the new libertarian club.

I was cast as a "Trump supporter/anti-woman" guy because I think life begins at conception.  However I am pro-choice because I think the life of the woman matters more during the time of pregnancy than the unborn child and removing the potential option of abortion would be cruel in many scenarios.  I find dismissing a fetus as a non-human is scientifically absurd, and the party that alleges to be pro-science should know better.

I literally agreed with the same policy position as the left on abortion, but for a difference reason, and that is enough to have me kicked out.

He's been calling himself a moderate libertarian lately so no doubt the SJWs drove him out too. Basically what im seeing is the SJW's are taking over the Democrat party and the liberal movement and weeding out anyone who doesnt fall in line, much like how 100 years ago the Bolsheviks weeded out the Mensheviks in the Russian Social Democratic Party, and we all known what came next

[falling apart like the ashes of American flags]

BTW, I am a straight white male. So why is it this stuff doesn't bother me or make me feel threatened?

Hahaha sure.

I'm not voting based on it, am I?

Like someone who believes that 90% of white teenagers are Nazis really has any room to speak on this.

Sounds like you're gonna be voting based on it in about 10 years. Face it BRTD; you're old.

You see, I only vote based on actual policies, what some pronoun some dumbass wants to be referred to as is not a matter of government policy.

People have been predicting that I would be turning Republican "in ten years" since I started posting here dude. Has never happened.

Your state doesn't. Governor WWE anyone?

Yes, a guy who was actually a mayor and ran under an actual platform. Also that was almost 20 years ago now.

[Devout Centrist]

The SJW bogeyman is one of the best things the GOP has going for them. You have former left-wingers like Michael here who've deluded themselves into thinking the never-ending culture wars actually have a measurable effect on their lives.

Great turnout strategy for them.

So what are the Democrats going to do about it?  How are they going to win me back?  Or do the Democrats think insulting me is going get my vote again?

I don't know, but I suppose if there were ever any concrete reasons for why you were a liberal/progressive in the first place, perhaps the thought of millions of people having their health care ripped away from them by a Republican-controlled government would lead you back to supporting the party that wants to expand coverage to as many Americans as possible. But that may be too much of an SJW issue.

Renewable energy, environmental protection, non-interventionism, infrastructure spending, I'd probably even be on board with an agenda as radical as including UBI.  However, the patronizing attitude of the bolded section is obviously why I am not a Democrat anymore.  I swear if one doesn't follow the straight and narrow as defined by the base you are basically persona non grata in the Democratic party

Dude, its the same at my school. I have a friend whos extremely liberal, gay, and smokes pot but he doesn't think government should be giving out free health care or pandering to certain groups and he got called a "fag Hitler" by some SJWs

Sounds like another potential member of the new libertarian club.

I was cast as a "Trump supporter/anti-woman" guy because I think life begins at conception.  However I am pro-choice because I think the life of the woman matters more during the time of pregnancy than the unborn child and removing the potential option of abortion would be cruel in many scenarios.  I find dismissing a fetus as a non-human is scientifically absurd, and the party that alleges to be pro-science should know better.

I literally agreed with the same policy position as the left on abortion, but for a difference reason, and that is enough to have me kicked out.

He's been calling himself a moderate libertarian lately so no doubt the SJWs drove him out too. Basically what im seeing is the SJW's are taking over the Democrat party and the liberal movement and weeding out anyone who doesnt fall in line, much like how 100 years ago the Bolsheviks weeded out the Mensheviks in the Russian Social Democratic Party, and we all known what came next

The dumbest of takes, folks

[Coraxion]

BTW, I am a straight white male. So why is it this stuff doesn't bother me or make me feel threatened?

It probably depends on your level of interaction with it.  Everyone is an individual and has different experiences.  That's why I don't asking you "as a straight white male" because it reduces you to some biological traits.  You have a life as a straight white man that is entirely different from a straight white man in the south or in Montana.  Heck, you may have had a neighbor who was straight, white and male who had some experiences in his life that deeply impacted him and not you.  One straight white man may have been emotionally abused as a child, another may have had a real easy going life.  

This is why I despise the SJW crowd who try to reduce everything to skin color, sexual orientation and gender and then build a hierarchy of victimhood.

Whether you want to admit it or not, racial discrimination, sexism, etc. are still problems in today's society. And it's not the fault of the "SJWs".

The SJW approach of identity politics is not even close to an answer.  I'd go as far to say that the SJW crowd is why Trump was elected. 

If people voted for Trump because of random people on Tumblr, that doesn't mean anything except our political discourse is in such a sorry state due to the us vs. them attitude. But we already knew that.

[The_Texas_Libertarian]

The SJW bogeyman is one of the best things the GOP has going for them. You have former left-wingers like Michael here who've deluded themselves into thinking the never-ending culture wars actually have a measurable effect on their lives.

Great turnout strategy for them.

So what are the Democrats going to do about it?  How are they going to win me back?  Or do the Democrats think insulting me is going get my vote again?

I don't know, but I suppose if there were ever any concrete reasons for why you were a liberal/progressive in the first place, perhaps the thought of millions of people having their health care ripped away from them by a Republican-controlled government would lead you back to supporting the party that wants to expand coverage to as many Americans as possible. But that may be too much of an SJW issue.

Renewable energy, environmental protection, non-interventionism, infrastructure spending, I'd probably even be on board with an agenda as radical as including UBI.  However, the patronizing attitude of the bolded section is obviously why I am not a Democrat anymore.  I swear if one doesn't follow the straight and narrow as defined by the base you are basically persona non grata in the Democratic party

Dude, its the same at my school. I have a friend whos extremely liberal, gay, and smokes pot but he doesn't think government should be giving out free health care or pandering to certain groups and he got called a "fag Hitler" by some SJWs

Sounds like another potential member of the new libertarian club.

I was cast as a "Trump supporter/anti-woman" guy because I think life begins at conception.  However I am pro-choice because I think the life of the woman matters more during the time of pregnancy than the unborn child and removing the potential option of abortion would be cruel in many scenarios.  I find dismissing a fetus as a non-human is scientifically absurd, and the party that alleges to be pro-science should know better.

I literally agreed with the same policy position as the left on abortion, but for a difference reason, and that is enough to have me kicked out.

He's been calling himself a moderate libertarian lately so no doubt the SJWs drove him out too. Basically what im seeing is the SJW's are taking over the Democrat party and the liberal movement and weeding out anyone who doesnt fall in line, much like how 100 years ago the Bolsheviks weeded out the Mensheviks in the Russian Social Democratic Party, and we all known what came next

I think there are a lot of us who are sickened by the SJW crowd who have various degree of liberal leanings, but who aren't conservatives or Republicans, so we end up as libertarians (disaffected liberals, former Democrats, to quote an SJW "non-binary", etc).  The libertarian ideology now almost function as "land for the lost" so to speak for people who may have some ideas that may straddle both major parties.  Although I support some right wing ideas I find there is much less judgement from the right.  More and more I find those on the left label and cast out those even disagree ever so slightly, even if it's not a policy difference.  I've only been chastised by those on the left for having the audacity to say "There is a problem with this portion (SJW) of your base", I have not received that from the right.  

[heatcharger]

Mike, you happened to not respond to my last post. Is expanding health care not a major issue for you? I'm genuinely curious.

[The_Texas_Libertarian]

The SJW bogeyman is one of the best things the GOP has going for them. You have former left-wingers like Michael here who've deluded themselves into thinking the never-ending culture wars actually have a measurable effect on their lives.

Great turnout strategy for them.

So what are the Democrats going to do about it?  How are they going to win me back?  Or do the Democrats think insulting me is going get my vote again?

I don't know, but I suppose if there were ever any concrete reasons for why you were a liberal/progressive in the first place, perhaps the thought of millions of people having their health care ripped away from them by a Republican-controlled government would lead you back to supporting the party that wants to expand coverage to as many Americans as possible. But that may be too much of an SJW issue.

Renewable energy, environmental protection, non-interventionism, infrastructure spending, I'd probably even be on board with an agenda as radical as including UBI.  However, the patronizing attitude of the bolded section is obviously why I am not a Democrat anymore.  I swear if one doesn't follow the straight and narrow as defined by the base you are basically persona non grata

Haha, okay dude. I'm usually against rigid litmus tests, but as a general rule, Democrats are in favor of making sure more Americans have health coverage than less. If this is not at all important to you, I don't know why you were a Democrat in the first place.

I find renewable energy policy to be very important.  My non-interventionism beliefs are strong and sprung from observing the failure of the neoconservatives and George W Bush.  So I completely reject the idea that health care is a litmus test of being a Democrat.  However, when I voted for Obama I was excited about health care reform.  Expanding health care is important but that is not the same as health insurance.  The Affordable Care Act is by no means the definitive form of health insurance, and it appears so bad that even Democrats are now saying it needs major changes.

Given how wrong I was with being excited about Obama and the Affordable Care Act gives me great pause in having any major reform of health insurance again.  So I really don't know what the move forward is on this one.

[Indy Texas]

Let's take a blunt examination into where the Democratic Party is optically weak.

For example, I think the Dems have an optics problem with regard to the police. I think they're often perceived as anti-cop. There is a reason the GOP has been able to beat the "law and order" drum since 1968.

Until Trump's candidacy, the last time the GOP did that was probably 1992. By that point, crime rates had started to go down and white flight had run its course in Northern cities. And when the GOP started becoming more absolutist on 2nd Amendment issues, it made it harder to champion "get guns off the streets" policies they often favored in the 1970s and 1980s.

[Devout Centrist]

The SJW bogeyman is one of the best things the GOP has going for them. You have former left-wingers like Michael here who've deluded themselves into thinking the never-ending culture wars actually have a measurable effect on their lives.

Great turnout strategy for them.

So what are the Democrats going to do about it?  How are they going to win me back?  Or do the Democrats think insulting me is going get my vote again?

I don't know, but I suppose if there were ever any concrete reasons for why you were a liberal/progressive in the first place, perhaps the thought of millions of people having their health care ripped away from them by a Republican-controlled government would lead you back to supporting the party that wants to expand coverage to as many Americans as possible. But that may be too much of an SJW issue.

Renewable energy, environmental protection, non-interventionism, infrastructure spending, I'd probably even be on board with an agenda as radical as including UBI.  However, the patronizing attitude of the bolded section is obviously why I am not a Democrat anymore.  I swear if one doesn't follow the straight and narrow as defined by the base you are basically persona non grata

Haha, okay dude. I'm usually against rigid litmus tests, but as a general rule, Democrats are in favor of making sure more Americans have health coverage than less. If this is not at all important to you, I don't know why you were a Democrat in the first place.

I find renewable energy policy to be very important.  My non-interventionism beliefs are strong and sprung from observing the failure of the neoconservatives and George W Bush.  So I completely reject the idea that health care is a litmus test of being a Democrat.  However, when I voted for Obama I was excited about health care reform.  Expanding health care is important but that is not the same as health insurance.  The Affordable Care Act is by no means the definitive form of health insurance, and it appears so bad that even Democrats are now saying it needs major changes.

Given how wrong I was with being excited about Obama and the Affordable Care Act gives me great pause in having any major reform of health insurance again.  So I really don't know what the move forward is on this one.

Really? You just bought into Republican talking points on the ACA? Without a fight? Wow.

[GlobeSoc]

Using the opportunity presented by the above flame war:

There are two libertarian-related hot takes present in the American political system that I hate. The first is that they are centrist. The libertarian party is an extremist party, just for their ideology. Just because they have some positions that liberals agree with and ones that conservatives agree with, does not mean that it magically balances out to become a moderate party. The other hot take both boosts and is boosted by the first: the idea of fiscal conservatism, particularly (but not necessarily) when paired with social liberalism = amazing common sense that will cure cancer.

If I had to guess a reason for each hot takes' existence, I would say the first one is because of a need to pigeonhole everything into a 1d scale with the beliefs of one party on the one side and the other on the other. The second is a manifestation of the Reagan-Bush alignment

Getting back on topic: The Democrats have a white people problem. Hillary Clinton got 37% of white voters (Roper - How Groups Voted). This was the lowest share of the white vote a Democrat has received since Walter Mondale's landslide loss to Reagan in 1984. She also lost whites without a college degree by an astounding 37 points (66-29%) and lost a plurality of whites aged 18-29 (47-43%) according to CNN exit polls.

Sorry

[Coraxion]

Getting back on topic: The Democrats have a white people problem. Hillary Clinton got 37% of white voters (Roper - How Groups Voted). This was the lowest share of the white vote a Democrat has received since Walter Mondale's landslide loss to Reagan in 1984. She also lost whites without a college degree by an astounding 37 points (66-29%) and lost a plurality of whites aged 18-29 (47-43%) according to CNN exit polls.

Hmm.

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People who vote against their economic self-interests because they're afraid of scary brown people are scum. It's not much different from getting the endorsement of Richard Spencer.

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White male millennial edgelords subscribed to r/The_Donald aren't exactly desirable either.

[Voice of low info America]

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People who vote against their economic self-interests because they're afraid of scary brown people are scum. It's not much different from getting the endorsement of Richard Spencer.

F off. If your life sucks because your whole life, politicians from both parties have been feeding you the lie of the so-called "American dream" which has never really existed, and then Democrats say you're a bad person because you happen to hold positions they themselves held only 4 or 8 years ago, the last thing on your mind in the voting booth are "scary brown people".

[The_Texas_Libertarian]

The SJW bogeyman is one of the best things the GOP has going for them. You have former left-wingers like Michael here who've deluded themselves into thinking the never-ending culture wars actually have a measurable effect on their lives.

Great turnout strategy for them.

So what are the Democrats going to do about it?  How are they going to win me back?  Or do the Democrats think insulting me is going get my vote again?

I don't know, but I suppose if there were ever any concrete reasons for why you were a liberal/progressive in the first place, perhaps the thought of millions of people having their health care ripped away from them by a Republican-controlled government would lead you back to supporting the party that wants to expand coverage to as many Americans as possible. But that may be too much of an SJW issue.

Renewable energy, environmental protection, non-interventionism, infrastructure spending, I'd probably even be on board with an agenda as radical as including UBI.  However, the patronizing attitude of the bolded section is obviously why I am not a Democrat anymore.  I swear if one doesn't follow the straight and narrow as defined by the base you are basically persona non grata

Haha, okay dude. I'm usually against rigid litmus tests, but as a general rule, Democrats are in favor of making sure more Americans have health coverage than less. If this is not at all important to you, I don't know why you were a Democrat in the first place.

I find renewable energy policy to be very important.  My non-interventionism beliefs are strong and sprung from observing the failure of the neoconservatives and George W Bush.  So I completely reject the idea that health care is a litmus test of being a Democrat.  However, when I voted for Obama I was excited about health care reform.  Expanding health care is important but that is not the same as health insurance.  The Affordable Care Act is by no means the definitive form of health insurance, and it appears so bad that even Democrats are now saying it needs major changes.

Given how wrong I was with being excited about Obama and the Affordable Care Act gives me great pause in having any major reform of health insurance again.  So I really don't know what the move forward is on this one.

Really? You just bought into Republican talking points on the ACA? Without a fight? Wow.

You're insufferable.

[Beet]

Liberals are way too self-righteous and tend to insult everyone. That's the problem with them. Unfortunately, it's people like me, who is liberal but doesn't like insulting people, that get unfairly tarred when other fellow liberals have no social skills.

People who are have health insurance are more likely to go in for health care when they need it, which can be life-saving, as well as save money in the long run. People without health insurance will often let serious conditions go untreated, which could result in their death. So while the two aren't the same, they are definitely related, and having good health insurance is a part-and-parcel of the health care system. There is no law that is passed and is perfect forever with no changes. Even Medicare went through many changes, and so did Social Security. The problem is that the Republicans up until now have been so intent on fighting the ACA that they haven't passed simple reforms that could help the exchanges work better, even if it's agreed on by Democrats.