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« on: August 02, 2017, 01:50:14 PM »
« edited: August 02, 2017, 02:04:35 PM by UWS »

Should Puerto Rico become the 51st state of the United States, would in be a red state, blue state or a battleground state like Florida, Ohio, Virginia, etc.? And why?
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2017, 02:04:06 PM »

It would mostly likely be a safe Dem state, and quite a poor one also.

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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2017, 02:56:14 PM »

A solid Democratic state, obviously. There's a reason for the strong opposition to Puerto Rican statehood among Republicans.
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2017, 03:41:55 PM »

The safest possible Democratic state. Check the presidential primary votes for 2016. The GOP's message of abortion restriction, tax cuts, and cuts to the welfare state do not resonate there at all.
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2017, 06:04:40 PM »

The safest possible Democratic state. Check the presidential primary votes for 2016. The GOP's message of abortion restriction, tax cuts, and cuts to the welfare state do not resonate there at all.

I would think less developed areas would be all for personhood but as it has become a Partisan issue, all but the most libertarian Republicans and Franciscan of Democrats fall in line
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2017, 06:30:25 PM »

The safest possible Democratic state. Check the presidential primary votes for 2016. The GOP's message of abortion restriction, tax cuts, and cuts to the welfare state do not resonate there at all.

I would think less developed areas would be all for personhood but as it has become a Partisan issue, all but the most libertarian Republicans and Franciscan of Democrats fall in line
Attitudes on abortion are some of the strongest indicators of partisan identification. The Mississippi personhood referendum only lost because of the Black vote. I expect Puerto Ricans to be similarly against abortion restriction.
https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?fips=28&year=2011&f=0&off=60&elect=0
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2017, 07:19:08 PM »

The safest possible Democratic state. Check the presidential primary votes for 2016. The GOP's message of abortion restriction, tax cuts, and cuts to the welfare state do not resonate there at all.

I would think less developed areas would be all for personhood but as it has become a Partisan issue, all but the most libertarian Republicans and Franciscan of Democrats fall in line
Attitudes on abortion are some of the strongest indicators of partisan identification. The Mississippi personhood referendum only lost because of the Black vote. I expect Puerto Ricans to be similarly against abortion restriction.
https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?fips=28&year=2011&f=0&off=60&elect=0

Well in this case, it wasn't just the Black vote. Apparently, there were a great amount of white voters that voted "no", despite MS being quite conservative. Take Rankin County for example. It's an absolute stronghold for Republicans and is over 70% White and less than 20% Black. Yet, the majority voted "no." There are a bunch of other counties that voted like that (Madison, DeSoto, Jackson, Harrison, Hancock).
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2017, 07:24:46 PM »

The safest possible Democratic state. Check the presidential primary votes for 2016. The GOP's message of abortion restriction, tax cuts, and cuts to the welfare state do not resonate there at all.

I would think less developed areas would be all for personhood but as it has become a Partisan issue, all but the most libertarian Republicans and Franciscan of Democrats fall in line
Attitudes on abortion are some of the strongest indicators of partisan identification. The Mississippi personhood referendum only lost because of the Black vote. I expect Puerto Ricans to be similarly against abortion restriction.
https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?fips=28&year=2011&f=0&off=60&elect=0

Well in this case, it wasn't just the Black vote. Apparently, there were a great amount of white voters that voted "no", despite MS being quite conservative. Take Rankin County for example. It's an absolute stronghold for Republicans and is over 70% White and less than 20% Black. Yet, the majority voted "no." There are a bunch of other counties that voted like that (Madison, DeSoto, Jackson, Harrison, Hancock).
Certainly true. If 80 to 90% of Whites voted for the personhood amendment, it would have won. A majority of Whites still voted in favor of the amendment, which is why I say it would have won had it not been for the Black vote.
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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2017, 07:27:08 PM »

obviously Democratic..which is why the only Congress that would admit it as a state is a Democratic one
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2017, 01:09:42 AM »

Democratic, due to the high minority population and economic situation.
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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2017, 05:29:26 PM »

Puerto Rico would basically be another New Mexico: The electorate is dominated by working-class Hispanics.
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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2017, 05:33:36 PM »

Easily Democrat, but I could see it being only likely D and possibly electing Senate Republicans.
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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2017, 05:47:58 PM »

I don't think it'd be as blue as, say, California or Massachusetts, but it'd definitely be Likely D in a close election. basically New Mexico 2.0.
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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2017, 01:34:00 PM »

Trump just lost Puerto Rico for the Republicans for years to come (if it wasn't already lost).

Even if FEMA's response wasn't his fault, people aren't going to forget the President going to his golf resort and attacking their people while they suffer.
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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2017, 01:38:12 PM »

Trump just lost Puerto Rico for the Republicans for years to come (if it wasn't already lost).

Even if FEMA's response wasn't his fault, people aren't going to forget the President going to his golf resort and attacking their people while they suffer.
Correction: Trump has lost Puerto Rican voters. There's probably gonna be significant migration from Puerto Rico to Florida now.
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« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2017, 01:58:42 PM »

Not as solid as Massachusetts or California, maybe about as Democratic as New Jersey or Washington state

To put it in perspective, Puerto Rico has two political parties that are competitive (PNP and PPD) and all of PPD's members are Democrats, while only half of the PNP are Republicans.

Gov Rosselló and fmr Delegate Pierluisi, for example, are both PNP and Democrats

Delegate González, on the other hand, is PNP and Republican
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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2017, 04:48:52 PM »

They have a history of electing PNP members who are Republicans. It would be a very elastic blue state.
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« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2017, 09:41:19 AM »

Solid Dem state but GOP could make inroads due to it being highly religious but the Catholic vote is largely mixed between D and R nowadays. Also it would be the poorest state in the Union, making Mississippi the second poorest.
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« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2017, 10:07:55 AM »

They have a history of electing PNP members who are Republicans. It would be a very elastic blue state.


Jenniffer Gonzalez didn't run on the ballot as a Republican.

I'd be shocked if Republicans broke 1/3 of the vote in a two-way election there for a D vs. R federal race

If we get to a point where the GOP is socially moderate and fiscally responsible (basically Libertarian-lite), I think Puerto Rico would only be about as blue as New Mexico, and could go R under certain circumstances.
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« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2017, 10:09:50 AM »

Safe Dem state. Both senators, all reps, every presidential election.
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« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2017, 10:51:03 AM »

They have a history of electing PNP members who are Republicans. It would be a very elastic blue state.


Jenniffer Gonzalez didn't run on the ballot as a Republican.

I'd be shocked if Republicans broke 1/3 of the vote in a two-way election there for a D vs. R federal race

If we get to a point where the GOP is socially moderate and fiscally responsible (basically Libertarian-lite), I think Puerto Rico would only be about as blue as New Mexico, and could go R under certain circumstances.
They would seem to hurt them. Puerto rico is socially conservative and economically liberal.
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« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2017, 11:44:21 AM »

Closest analogues would be Hawaii (majority-minority) and New Mexico. It might be culturally conservative, but not on economics.

Puerto Rico might be one place especially vulnerable to global warming, and it might want to rely more heavily upon solar power as something more easily restored after a hurricane. (Take down solar panels as the storm approaches, and put them back as the storm leaves).   
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« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2017, 02:50:39 PM »

It will vote Democratic everywhere, although local R's might be electable here and there.
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« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2017, 10:11:20 PM »

In presidential elections,I think it would be Safe D, though possibly winnable for Republicans in a huge landslide.

In congressional elections, I actually wonder if we would see something like the current party system, where one major party aligns with the Democrats and the other party isn't fully aligned with either party. For example, I could see a scenario where members of the PNP don't commit to caucusing with either party, sort of like Angus King (King has consistently caucused with Dems, but at one point that wasn't a given).
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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2017, 05:28:48 PM »

Democratic. While their U.S. Representative is a Republican, if it becomes a state any time before 2020, Trump will be lucky to get 25%.
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