2020 dem primary:Harris vs. Sanders

[Bidenworth2020]

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[The Govanah Jake]

Bernie Sanders 48.51%

Kamala Harris 49.75%

Basically a worse off Hillary Clinton. She may not have the same baggage and reputation that Clinton has, she will be facing off against Bernie Sanders and after 4 years of Trump would have a much better chance of winning. I would think she would do worse with Blacks then Clinton do to the fact that she is a unknown compared to Clinton among Southern Black Democrats. This results in lesser margins in the south and him winning North Carolina which can also be explained by him avoiding the mistake he made in 2016 which was to avoid the south and head towards the more Northern and Western states. BTW Delaware could go either way in this

[The Undefeatable Debbie Stabenow]

I concur that Harris would do worse than Hillary did. I think Harris would win all Hillary states except for South Dakota, Illinois, Missouri, Kentucky, and Iowa (all of which she loses narrowly). However, the biggest difference is that her margins in several states she wins are significantly smaller than Clinton's, notably Arkansas, Tennessee, Florida, and Texas - while Bernie wins by margins equal to or higher than his in 2016, with the exception of Washington, Oregon, and Colorado.

So I don't really know who wins here. Maybe Harris very narrowly? Depends on Sanders' margins in the Midwest and how close he can come in NY, TX, FL, and CA.

[RFKFan68]

Sanders will never be the Democratic nominee. Harris will be saved by the South or by superdelegates.

[The Govanah Jake]

I concur that Harris would do worse than Hillary did. I think Harris would win all Hillary states except for South Dakota, Illinois, Missouri, Kentucky, and Iowa (all of which she loses narrowly). However, the biggest difference is that her margins in several states she wins are significantly smaller than Clinton's, notably Arkansas, Tennessee, Florida, and Texas - while Bernie wins by margins equal to or higher than his in 2016, with the exception of Washington, Oregon, and Colorado.

So I don't really know who wins here. Maybe Harris very narrowly? Depends on Sanders' margins in the Midwest and how close he can come in NY, TX, FL, and CA.

I could also see this happening though i dont think she would Win Hawaii or any New England States.

[Liberalrocks]

Harris by about the same margin as Clinton in 2016 most likely similiar map. I would presume most 2016 Clinton supporters would back Harris. I doubt there would be the same millennial gap, Sanders edge with that group likely would not be as strong of a margin as it had been against Clinton.

[Liberalrocks]

Sanders will never be the Democratic nominee. Harris will be saved by the South or by superdelegates.

I doubt it would be that narrow of a win for her, but yes agreed on Sanders.

[CivicParticipant]

Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT) - 49.3%
Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA)- 49.0%

Probably lead to a contested convention IMO.

[GGover]

I think the only states where Harris will outperform Clinton is California. Considering that Harris doesn't have the same ties to New York that Clinton does, I would expect Sanders to take the state. Overall I think Sanders will win. In 2016 he was largely unknown, now Sanders is among the most famous and popular democrats in the country.

I think Harris will mostly just win the southwest and the south, while Sanders takes the rest of the country.

[GGover]

This is how I think Sanders wins. Nevada could go either way.