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A18
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« on: August 15, 2005, 07:10:23 pm »

What elections do you consider "realigning" elections? Explain and discuss.
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A18
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2005, 10:05:28 am »

I don't consider 1896, 1932, or 1968 re-aligning elections.
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A18
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2005, 10:35:38 am »

I don't believe in the concept of "realigning elections" to begin with. New voting patterns and bases of power emerge all the time.

There's just nothing special about those three.
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A18
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2005, 10:52:21 am »

To get other people's opinions.

The problem is that we don't have vote totals for elections up until 1824, so it's hard to gauge any change in voting patterns there. The election of 1860 was certainly critical, but the point is that any trend is gradual and doesn't just emerge in one election.
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A18
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2005, 12:31:47 pm »

The elections of 2000 and 2004 were obviously realigning in that they pitted rural areas against cities like no other time since 1896.

Those are completely new voting patterns, and having to do with 1968 at all.
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A18
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2005, 12:45:34 pm »

If they were the natural result of those electoral forces, this would have occured a lot earlier.

Cities are now voting more Democratic than ever before in the history of the nation (Cook County, Philadelphia County, San Francisco County, New York County). Meanwhile, Democrats are shut out of most rural area.
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A18
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2005, 12:59:56 pm »

It's certainly more major than a few southern states voting Republican.
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A18
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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2005, 01:24:27 pm »

Thousands of rural counties are voting like it's 1984, while cities pile up Democratic majorities never before seen, even during the darkest days of the Great Depression. That's pretty major.
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A18
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2005, 03:06:45 pm »

Uh, the parties don't have to get more polarized to have a realignment. The most recent big one was 2000 (much bigger than 1968, anyway).
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A18
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2005, 04:02:53 pm »

Uh, I don't even agree that 1968 was one. Perhaps 1964.

The election of 2000 was a drastic change, in which cities started going >90% Democrat, and rural areas barely managed to outvote them.
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A18
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2005, 11:47:35 am »

I still don't consider 1968 a realigning election.
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A18
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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2009, 08:12:01 pm »

The first and only "realigning election" will occur precisely two and a half days after the general public has finally abandoned the ridiculous paradigm. So in other words, never.
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