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« on: July 18, 2017, 10:19:31 AM »
« edited: July 18, 2017, 10:28:12 AM by heatcharger »

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Biden 54%
Trump 39%

Booker 45%
Trump 40%

Harris 41%
Trump 40%

Sanders 52%
Trump 39%

Warren 49%
Trump 42%

Zuckerberg 40%
Trump 40%

Zuckerberg favorability: 24/29

Biden has been at 54% all five times they've polled him against Trump.
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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2017, 10:20:30 AM »

I look forward to his Blanching.
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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2017, 10:25:54 AM »

Also of note…

Who would you rather have as president right now?

B. Obama 53%
D. Trump 40%

H. Clinton 49%
D. Trump 42%

fav/unfav %:
Zuckerberg 24/29% for -5%
Trump 41/55% for -14%
Trump Jr. 31/50% for -19%
Kushner 25/44% for -19%
Putin 9/71% for -62%
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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2017, 10:52:33 AM »

Sanders & Biden are the 2 obvious strongest candidates although Biden is untested & has not had a long divisive primary & has not been in the limelight (elder statesman rating boost).

Sanders vs Biden, if they are both fit, will be a fun Dem primary. The others lackeys will disappear !
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2017, 11:03:24 AM »

As with their previous poll, the differences in “electability” between the Dem. candidates seem to be largely a function of high undecided #s among Clinton ’16 voters for the lesser known Dem. candidates.

E.g., for Biden vs. Trump…

Clinton ’16 voters:
Biden 92%
Trump 4%
not sure 4%

Trump ’16 voters:
Trump 84%
Biden 12%
not sure 4%

But for Harris vs. Trump…

Clinton ’16 voters:
Harris 74%
Trump 4%
not sure 22%

Trump ’16 voters:
Trump 85%
Harris 7%
not sure 8%

Though I also notice that Trump gets a slightly higher share of the male vote when matched up against women.  E.g….

Trump’s share of the male vote vs. Biden: 43%
Trump’s share of the male vote vs. Booker: 44%
Trump’s share of the male vote vs. Sanders: 44%
Trump’s share of the male vote vs. Zuckerberg: 46%
Trump’s share of the male vote vs. Harris: 46%
Trump’s share of the male vote vs. Warren: 48%

Though again, not sure how best to disentangle that from name recognition, since Biden and Sanders are better known than Warren and Harris.

Another fun one is Trump’s share of the black vote vs. the various Dem. candidates…

Trump’s share of the black vote vs. Booker: 3%
Trump’s share of the black vote vs. Harris: 3%
Trump’s share of the black vote vs. Biden: 5%
Trump’s share of the black vote vs. Sanders: 9%
Trump’s share of the black vote vs. Warren: 9%
Trump’s share of the black vote vs. Zuckerberg: 10%

Finally, the gap in undecideds between young voters and old voters isn’t as extreme as in their last poll.  It’s only significant for the matchups with Biden and Warren.  And interestingly, despite Sanders being especially popular with youngs, and Warren being seen as more ideologically in tune with Sanders than Booker and Harris are, Booker and Harris both have larger leads over Trump among voters under 30 than Warren does, while Warren does better than they do among voters over 65.  Warren was actually the only one of the Dems for whom over 65s were not her worst age cohort.  Her worst age cohort was 30-45 year olds.

18-29 year olds:
Biden +36 over Trump, 14% undecided
Booker +26 over Trump, 18% undecided
Harris +23 over Trump, 23% undecided
Sanders +38 over Trump, 10% undecided
Warren +22 over Trump, 18% undecided
Zuckerberg +22 over Trump, 18% undecided

over 65 years old:
Biden +9 over Trump, 3% undecided
Trump +2 over Booker, 14% undecided
Trump +8 over Harris, 20% undecided
Sanders +3 over Trump, 9% undecided
Warren +3 over Trump, 8% undecided
Trump +6 over Zuckerberg, 18% undecided
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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2017, 11:06:37 AM »

Biden would do the best. However, by the time 2020 comes around, he would be 76 years old. Not sure if his health would be an issue at that point.
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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2017, 11:38:42 AM »

I'm guessing Harris' low score is due to her low name rec. the rest on here are fairly known.
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2017, 11:47:12 AM »

I'm guessing Harris' low score is due to her low name rec. the rest on here are fairly known.

Booker may have some name rec issues also. He's better known than Harris but not a household name like Clinton, Biden or Sanders, or to a lesser degree Warren.
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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2017, 11:53:34 AM »

Biden would do the best. However, by the time 2020 comes around, he would be 76 years old. Not sure if his health would be an issue at that point.

Not that Biden is my first choice for the Democratic nomination, with that said, Trump will be 74 in 2020 and doesn't have the best diet and sleep habits, so his health could very well be problematic in 2020 as well.
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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2017, 11:56:26 AM »

#ZuckerbergForDemNominee
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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2017, 12:22:23 PM »

Sanders & Biden are the 2 obvious strongest candidates although Biden is untested & has not had a long divisive primary & has not been in the limelight (elder statesman rating boost).

Sanders vs Biden, if they are both fit, will be a fun Dem primary. The others lackeys will disappear !

His struggles were only before he became Vice-President. Maybe he could have defeated Hillary in 2016.
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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2017, 01:38:23 PM »

I'm guessing Harris' low score is due to her low name rec. the rest on here are fairly known.

Booker may have some name rec issues also. He's better known than Harris but not a household name like Clinton, Biden or Sanders, or to a lesser degree Warren.
Bookers social media numbers are vastly superior to Harris. He has 3.2 million followers on twitter vs her 600 k. So I think there's a fairly big gap in name recognition at this point. His Twitter numbers are pretty much on par with Warren. Booker was fairly high profile as a Hillary surrogate during the election as well.
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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2017, 01:43:25 PM »

The poll, at this point, is meaningless. But if any meaning should be extrapolated from the poll, it's probably not the Dem numbers vs. Trump for 2020. It's that 49-42 people wish Hillary won, 53-40 people wish Obama were president, and the fact that Trump remains in the low 40s or upper 30s against every Dem.

I think it shows that at this point Trump has his base ~40% and that's about it.
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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2017, 01:55:32 PM »

I'm guessing Harris' low score is due to her low name rec. the rest on here are fairly known.

Booker may have some name rec issues also. He's better known than Harris but not a household name like Clinton, Biden or Sanders, or to a lesser degree Warren.
Bookers social media numbers are vastly superior to Harris. He has 3.2 million followers on twitter vs her 600 k. So I think there's a fairly big gap in name recognition at this point. His Twitter numbers are pretty much on par with Warren. Booker was fairly high profile as a Hillary surrogate during the election as well.
Booker's been a Senator for four years and was mayor of a large city for years before that.

Harris has been a senator for six months.
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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2017, 02:20:09 PM »

I'm guessing Harris' low score is due to her low name rec. the rest on here are fairly known.

Booker may have some name rec issues also. He's better known than Harris but not a household name like Clinton, Biden or Sanders, or to a lesser degree Warren.
Bookers social media numbers are vastly superior to Harris. He has 3.2 million followers on twitter vs her 600 k. So I think there's a fairly big gap in name recognition at this point. His Twitter numbers are pretty much on par with Warren. Booker was fairly high profile as a Hillary surrogate during the election as well.
Booker's been a Senator for four years and was mayor of a large city for years before that.

Harris has been a senator for six months.

By 2020, Harris would have been a senator for four years and the Cali AG for six.
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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2017, 02:36:17 PM »

I'm guessing Harris' low score is due to her low name rec. the rest on here are fairly known.

Booker may have some name rec issues also. He's better known than Harris but not a household name like Clinton, Biden or Sanders, or to a lesser degree Warren.
Bookers social media numbers are vastly superior to Harris. He has 3.2 million followers on twitter vs her 600 k. So I think there's a fairly big gap in name recognition at this point. His Twitter numbers are pretty much on par with Warren. Booker was fairly high profile as a Hillary surrogate during the election as well.

Booker definitely has higher name recognition than Harris, but I don't think it's as large as the 3 million vs. 600,000 Twitter followers suggests.  Booker's worked a lot on his social media presence, and regularly posts short videos of himself opining on various topics and the like.  So he has a large number of followers, but I don't think that quite translates into widespread recognition among regular voters.

In any case, national polling of Harris has been sparse, but Morning Consult (not the greatest pollster, but I'm not sure if there are any other national polls with the relevant numbers for Harris) has national favorability #s for Booker, Harris, and other 2020ers here, from a poll taken last month:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=266713.0

Booker:
24% favorable, 13% unfavorable

Harris:
21% favorable, 12% unfavorable

So, not that large a gap in terms of the %age of voters who express an opinion about them.  At least judging from this one poll.
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« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2017, 02:36:34 PM »

can we get at least one poll with Bullock?
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« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2017, 07:38:58 PM »

Considering this poll, we can probably safely say Zuckerberg will be the nominee.
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« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2017, 08:00:44 PM »

Biden should run. He does not have to run in 2024. His VP can run with his endorsement. I'm sure the fringe left will balk at the idea of a coronation but whatever. They can run someone against him/her. I can see that primary being 60/40 to 80/20 depending on the mood in the country.
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« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2017, 09:02:47 PM »

Biden should run. He does not have to run in 2024. His VP can run with his endorsement. I'm sure the fringe left will balk at the idea of a coronation but whatever. They can run someone against him/her. I can see that primary being 60/40 to 80/20 depending on the mood in the country.
I'm starting to edge to this line of thinking too but it's so early....
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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2017, 07:58:36 AM »

Biden should run. He does not have to run in 2024. His VP can run with his endorsement. I'm sure the fringe left will balk at the idea of a coronation but whatever. They can run someone against him/her. I can see that primary being 60/40 to 80/20 depending on the mood in the country.
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« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2017, 11:15:11 AM »

Biden should run. He does not have to run in 2024. His VP can run with his endorsement. I'm sure the fringe left will balk at the idea of a coronation but whatever. They can run someone against him/her. I can see that primary being 60/40 to 80/20 depending on the mood in the country.

If anyone could pull that off, it's Biden.

Also, this Bloomberg/Selzer poll has Biden's favorables at 60/29 (Obama at 61/36 as well).
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« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2017, 01:45:39 PM »

lol in a FOX NEWS POLL Bernie was leading 25 points in Michigan, 19 in WI, 8 in OH, and 2 in IA
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« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2017, 04:38:10 PM »

Biden should run. He does not have to run in 2024. His VP can run with his endorsement. I'm sure the fringe left will balk at the idea of a coronation but whatever. They can run someone against him/her. I can see that primary being 60/40 to 80/20 depending on the mood in the country.
Biden with a younger maybe female VP would be a shoe in Imao.
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« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2017, 06:06:22 PM »

Biden should run. He does not have to run in 2024. His VP can run with his endorsement. I'm sure the fringe left will balk at the idea of a coronation but whatever. They can run someone against him/her. I can see that primary being 60/40 to 80/20 depending on the mood in the country.
Biden with a younger maybe female VP would be a shoe in Imao.

Possibly (maybe). I could see myself voting Biden or Booker over Trump.and Gillibrand as VP would not scare me.
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