Heidi Heitkamp vs Donald Trump

[Bidenworth2020]

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here is about her

https://ballotpedia.org/Heidi_Heitkamp

[TML]

With the degree of influence that populism has today, I think she'd probably fare worse than Hillary Clinton did last year.

[AtorBoltox]

Easy Trump win due to incredibly low minority and youth turnout

[The Undefeatable Debbie Stabenow]

My prediction...

My final no-tossup prediction...

[Fuzzy Bear]

If the Democrats are serious about winning in 2020, they need to look at candidates who defeated Republicans in Red States seriously.  Heitkamp, assuming she's re-elected in 2018, would be a formidable candidate to the extend that she wins in tough territory.

North Dakota's electorate has actually been quite elastic over time; it's only with the recent oil boom that they've noticeably switched to the GOP at all levels.  Heitkamp bucked that, and the how and why of that is something Democrats ought to be interested in.  Of course, they'll be more interested in Cory Booker, who I think will be a sure loser, and his nomination would be seen as the kind of pandering and identity politics that caused Walter Mondale to lose 49 states.

[RFKFan68]

Easy Trump win due to incredibly low minority and youth turnout

[Liberalrocks]

Hardest race for her would be winning the nomination, perhaps thats somehow done in a split field?...

[Technocracy Timmy]

North Dakota's electorate has actually been quite elastic over time; it's only with the recent oil boom that they've noticeably switched to the GOP at all levels.  Heitkamp bucked that, and the how and why of that is something Democrats ought to be interested in.  Of course, they'll be more interested in Cory Booker, who I think will be a sure loser, and his nomination would be seen as the kind of pandering and identity politics that caused Walter Mondale to lose 49 states.

I really don't see Booker being the nominee. The guy gets flustered easily, is distrusted by the Bernie wing, and sounds like he's telling a bedtime story to a 5 year old whenever he speaks.

He's overrated, and that's not something I can say about any other candidate (beyond the Kander and Kennedyposting by some on here).

[Tancred]

Heitkamp could probably do well in the Rust Belt states, maybe winning over some of the Obama-Trump voters. That makes her a tough challenger for Trump. As with more moderate Democrats, though, there is the issue of whether she could win the primary and whether some liberals might vote Green or stay home. On the other hand, there is enough anti-Trump sentiment where that may not be a problem.

[Dr. Arch]

She'd be a good choice overall and would do well to reverse the political cesspool this country has fallen in to.

[PragmaticPopulist]

Heitkamp might move a little to the left in order to reach more progressive voters, but I can still see her being a formidable opponent. I can see the map looking something like this:

She'd make inroads in the plains and regain a lot of lost ground for Democrats in the midwest. I think she'd under-perform Hillary Clinton in the sunbelt though, as the matchup is likely to depress minority turnout.

[Alabama_Indy10]

What makes Heitkamp appeal to minorities?

[twenty42]

ND is not going D. Lol

[heatcharger]

[DeSantis4Prez]

Senator Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND)/Governor Jon Bel Edwards (D-LA), 273 EV's
President Donald J. Trump (R-NY)/Vice President Mike Pence (R-IN), 265 EV's

Closest States:

North Dakota: Heitkamp: 47.03%, Trump: 47.01%
Montana: Heitkamp: 48.67%, Trump: 48.60%
Louisiana: Heitkamp: 46.50%, Trump: 46.43%
Florida: Trump: 44.78%, Heitkamp: 44.35
Wisconsin: Heitkamp: 45.27%, Trump: 44.98%
Michigan: Heitkamp: 44.76%, Trump: 43.87%
Pennsylvania: Trump: 49.36%, Heitkamp: 46.21%

[For Trump, everything. For immigrants, the law]

She'd never win a Democratic primary, and while she might appeal to some more socially conservative voters that Clinton couldn't reach, a lot of progressives would probably have serious reservations about Heitkamp. She might beat Trump, but she would not win in a blowout like a lot of posters here seem to think. Trump would still easily get 85% or more of Republicans.

[Alabama_Indy10]

Senator Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND)/Governor Jon Bel Edwards (D-LA), 273 EV's
President Donald J. Trump (R-NY)/Vice President Mike Pence (R-IN), 265 EV's

Closest States:

North Dakota: Heitkamp: 47.03%, Trump: 47.01%
Montana: Heitkamp: 48.67%, Trump: 48.60%
Louisiana: Heitkamp: 46.50%, Trump: 46.43%
Florida: Trump: 44.78%, Heitkamp: 44.35
Wisconsin: Heitkamp: 45.27%, Trump: 44.98%
Michigan: Heitkamp: 44.76%, Trump: 43.87%
Pennsylvania: Trump: 49.36%, Heitkamp: 46.21%

Uh. No.

[GGover]

Heitkamp is overrated.

She's boring and uninspiring, and the only reason people think she would be a good candidate is because of her location. Donald Trump did well with midwesterners, despite being a New Yorker, because he told them what they wanted to hear. The voters in states like WI, MI, and PA aren't just going to say "Oh well, she's from the same general geographic region as we are, I guess we have to support her." A strategy like this is going to depress turnout among the young and minorities, and I think will ultimately cost Dems the next election. The same goes for Bullock.

If she manages to keep her senate seat, she should stay there.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Heitkamp would not get the nomination, but would smash Drumpft if she did. A pretty similar case to Manchin.