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jfern
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« on: August 14, 2005, 01:27:47 AM »

$20,000 was paid to her to keep quiet. Time for the delusional Republicans to face up to the fact that this scumbag isn't getting re-elected.

 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/12/AR2005081201651.html
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2005, 01:59:05 AM »


Here, in case you need help finding her age in 1975.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/8/13/235231/672
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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2005, 02:32:47 AM »

I have trouble believing that if she was 16, they would so blatantly ignore this.

That who would ignore this? She got hush money. It's the major scandal. Arnold's last scandal, the $8,000,000 from some magazine for passing favorable legislation is now old news.
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2005, 03:58:40 AM »

He slept with  a 16 year old thirty years ago, and your bothering me with that fact [/i]now[/i]?
You may get back to me when you got news of him murdering somebody 30 years ago.

The age of consent in California is 18. That's statuatory rape, except that the statute of limitations has run out.
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2005, 04:00:34 AM »


Yes
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2005, 01:10:26 PM »

He slept with  a 16 year old thirty years ago, and your bothering me with that fact [/i]now[/i]?
You may get back to me when you got news of him murdering somebody 30 years ago.

The age of consent in California is 18. That's statuatory rape, except that the statute of limitations has run out.
Just goes to show that the use of the term "rape" for cases like this is vile, disgusting, and demeaning to young women.

It's what the law says. Plenty of younger people who slept with a 16 year old got in a lot of trouble for this.
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jfern
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2005, 01:11:16 PM »

Hang on a minute.  Stories printed in the National Enquirer are now being used? 

That's not the source of this story, even though that mentions something.
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2005, 01:12:59 PM »

If this had come out about Bill Clinton, Democrats would be vociferously arguing that it made no difference.

But now we're supposed to take seriously a 30-year-old relationship simply because Schwarzenegger is a Republican.

If this were recent, it would be a big issue, but since it took place in 1975, who cares?  Standards were different back then in any case, and it was a long, long time ago.

And it's ridiculous to think that the Democrats are going to howl in outrage over this when we all know full they that they would defend it if it involved one of their patron saints.

Monica was 24 or 25. See the difference?
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jfern
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2005, 01:25:47 PM »

If this had come out about Bill Clinton, Democrats would be vociferously arguing that it made no difference.

But now we're supposed to take seriously a 30-year-old relationship simply because Schwarzenegger is a Republican.

If this were recent, it would be a big issue, but since it took place in 1975, who cares?  Standards were different back then in any case, and it was a long, long time ago.

And it's ridiculous to think that the Democrats are going to howl in outrage over this when we all know full they that they would defend it if it involved one of their patron saints.

Monica was 24 or 25. See the difference?

And Bill Clinton was 50 at the time.  Arnold was what, 23 or 24 in 1975?

28. The law says that 16 and 28 is bad news. It doesn't say anything about 50 and 25.
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2005, 01:35:07 PM »

The people arguing that this is old news that happened a long time ago seem to have missed the illegal hush money paid to her to keep quiet.
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2005, 01:50:40 PM »

The people arguing that this is old news that happened a long time ago seem to have missed the illegal hush money paid to her to keep quiet.

He can't ever amend for his wrongdoings?

Did you read what I said?
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2005, 03:49:39 PM »


The hush money is quite likely illegal. Let's face it, this guy is completely curropt, even if you would do the same thing.
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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2005, 03:53:13 PM »

The people arguing that this is old news that happened a long time ago seem to have missed the illegal hush money paid to her to keep quiet.

How is it illegal?  How many women did Clinton pay off to keep quiet, and prevent more bimbo eruptions?

I would take this a lot more seriously coming from you if I didn't know that you'd be defending this exact same behavior vociferously if we were talking about a liberal Democrat.

Unlike your hypotheticals with Clinton, we have real evidence here. When have I defended a curropt liberal Democrat? The curropt Democrats all seem to be moderates, like Traficant and Torricelli.
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2005, 04:04:42 PM »

The people arguing that this is old news that happened a long time ago seem to have missed the illegal hush money paid to her to keep quiet.

How is it illegal?  How many women did Clinton pay off to keep quiet, and prevent more bimbo eruptions?

I would take this a lot more seriously coming from you if I didn't know that you'd be defending this exact same behavior vociferously if we were talking about a liberal Democrat.

Unlike your hypotheticals with Clinton, we have real evidence here. When have I defended a curropt liberal Democrat? The curropt Democrats all seem to be moderates, like Traficant and Torricelli.

Traficant is a nut, and Torricelli is a vile liberal.  And I believe the blue semen-stained dress goes well beyond hypothetical.

He's a pro-war hack with support from right-wingers.

http://wsws.org/articles/2002/oct2002/torr-o03.shtml
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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2005, 04:09:51 PM »


Well, I guess that explains why he was corrupt.  After all, a liberal Democrat could never be corrupt.  Anything said about them is pure innuendo.  Ted Kennedy is as pure as the driven snow, and Chappaquiddick was made up by a vast right wing conspiracy.  Right?

So Ted Kennedy is a bad date. Got any more examples, or that it?
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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2005, 08:25:47 PM »

The only article I found mention their age was  that he "met" Gigi Goyette when she was 16.  That's a lot different than they "had sex" when she was 16.

It also notes a 7 year relationship, much later.

Don't expect Jfern to get too concerned with minor details like that. If he's going to go after Arnold, he ought to find something more compelling than possible 30-year-old sex.

Dazzleman,

Keep egging Jfern on.  I want to see his head explode like one of those femme-bots on Austin Powers.

Aaaaaahhhhgggggh!!!!!

Just kidding.

Anyways, they both had "outercourse" sex, whatever that is when she was 16, and he had an affair with her later (when she was legal, but he was still cheating).
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jfern
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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2005, 08:28:12 PM »

you can tag a hottie  at 16 in MS, so long as momma and daddy don't mind

Yeah, well it's 18 in CA, which is the relevant state law.

Funny how the Republicans all ignore the hush money.
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