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« Reply #50 on: July 06, 2017, 12:43:53 AM »

The only part of Obamacare that was passed via reconciliation was a set of tiny alterations. The bulk of the legislation - the stuff that actually mattered - was passed via regular order, and in order to accomplish that Dems had to capitulate to the demands of people like Lieberman.
This is why Harry Reid should have used the nuclear option.
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« Reply #51 on: July 06, 2017, 02:21:41 AM »

The only part of Obamacare that was passed via reconciliation was a set of tiny alterations. The bulk of the legislation - the stuff that actually mattered - was passed via regular order, and in order to accomplish that Dems had to capitulate to the demands of people like Lieberman.

But they could have passed more than tiny alterations. There were Senators as conservative as Rockefeller on board for a public option.
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« Reply #52 on: July 06, 2017, 03:00:56 AM »

ITT, people who hate the pharma industry for stupid reasons.

Yeah they aren't responsible for absurd drug costs, or turning the American midwest into a howling snake-pit full of fentanyl-addicts, or producing such great humanitarians as Martin Shkreli or Heather Bresch.

This. The pharma industry is one of the most terrible, ruthless and cruel industries in the world.
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« Reply #53 on: July 06, 2017, 03:06:02 AM »

ITT, people who hate the pharma industry for stupid reasons.

Yeah they aren't responsible for absurd drug costs, or turning the American midwest into a howling snake-pit full of fentanyl-addicts, or producing such great humanitarians as Martin Shkreli or Heather Bresch.

This. The pharma industry is one of the most terrible, ruthless and cruel industries in the world.

Big pharma/big health insurance are the ones who writes most healthcare legislation, sadly enough. I can think of three bills related to health insurance that had little to no writing done by health insurance companies, and one of them was a Medicare reform plan, so it hardly counts. All three of them failed, likely due to them being crushed by the previously mentioned special interests.
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« Reply #54 on: July 06, 2017, 07:59:59 AM »
« Edited: July 06, 2017, 08:03:19 AM by Friend »

Many people did read the website, and putting it on there showed with perfect clarity her acceptance of the position outlined in the platform. People don't put policy positions on their official campaign website if they're not ready to endorse and defend them fully. They just don't. She also repeatedly (even before the platform was adopted) stated that she supported efforts like Fight for $15 and encouraged localized efforts on the part of states/cities to raise their own minimum wage.


Obama promised to 1. Require publicly traded financial partnerships to pay the corporate income tax
2.Create a $10 billion fund to help homeowners refinance or sell their homes 3. Allow imported prescription drugs 4. Allow medicare to negotiate drug prices. And many other things that could have been passed during his first two years. He and the dem establishement did nothing. Why would Hillary , a longtime establishment hack, do any different? These people lie to get votes, just like Republicans. But you know who always gets theirs?? The special interests. But hey lets keep doing the same thing, she said so on her website!

Look up who Joe Lieberman is and tell me more about how it was Obama and the 'establishment Dems' who ruined healthcare reform.

You don't even know who you're rallying against. But keep being angry.

By the way, huge difference between campaigning and governing. Anyone with even a tenuous grasp on politics understands that distinction, and doesn't get incensed when a president doesn't implement every single change they proposed or even promised on the campaign trail. Reasonable people allow room for changing circumstances and understand that the world is messy and things aren't always black and white.

Except Obama buckled on healthcare reform twice even with a supermajority.

Very good chance we would have had public option if it weren't for Lieberman's bullsh**t. He deserves a huge amount of blame for what happened.

Yes. One Senator out of how many?
Oh wow i definitely had no idea who Joe Lieberman was haha(sarcasm alert). A former dem turned independent, bitter after losing a primary makes a hell of a fall guy so the dem senators could make it look like they really wanted a public option. Oh look they tried, lets keep voting for them. Its kinda like the Pubs voting to repeal obamacare when they knew Obama would veto it, but now that they could, well.... And yes I take issue with making campaign promises that politicians know damn well they cant keep, regardless of if its feasible or not. There was plenty more Obama could have done with the simple majority but didnt. But please tell me how pragmatic he was...
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« Reply #55 on: July 06, 2017, 11:16:01 AM »

The only part of Obamacare that was passed via reconciliation was a set of tiny alterations. The bulk of the legislation - the stuff that actually mattered - was passed via regular order, and in order to accomplish that Dems had to capitulate to the demands of people like Lieberman.

But they could have passed more than tiny alterations. There were Senators as conservative as Rockefeller on board for a public option.

Wow, I hope you don't mean Jay...
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« Reply #56 on: July 06, 2017, 01:03:06 PM »

The only part of Obamacare that was passed via reconciliation was a set of tiny alterations. The bulk of the legislation - the stuff that actually mattered - was passed via regular order, and in order to accomplish that Dems had to capitulate to the demands of people like Lieberman.

But they could have passed more than tiny alterations. There were Senators as conservative as Rockefeller on board for a public option.

Wow, I hope you don't mean Jay...
Yeah, Jay was liberal AF.
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