Foreign Policy in the 2020 Election

[Shadows]

We just need someone to stay out of Middle Eastern wars, although the military-industrial complex and the Israel/Jewish lobbies will find that unacceptable.

Right, because we Jews love starting wars everywhere! Go away, antisemite,

I have nothing against Jews, I'm against war mongering, corruption, and the denying of basic freedoms and liberties to Palestinians and all other oppressed peoples.

Stop playing stupid. You didn't just write Israel lobby you wrote "Israel/JEWISH LOBBIES."

Implying Jews like starting wars across the world, which is a blatant antisemitic calling card.

Also, Israel does not "start wars" for the sake of dragging in countries to "fight them for Israel."

The Six Day War was started in response to a series of aggressive actions by multiple Arabic countries. 

Remember Sunrise the far left hates America and its allies , and wants to see them fail . Remember the far left supported the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan but called our invasion criminal  .

You know that the Afghani invasion created the Taliban. US literally Laden, trained him, developed him for years. And this guy blew up the Twin towers. So if someone is talking about that invasion being criminal it is justified, most invasions in general is criminal & illegal by international law although no1 seems to give a shi* to rules & the law !

[Senator LouisvilleThunder]

We just need someone to stay out of Middle Eastern wars, although the military-industrial complex and the Israel/Jewish lobbies will find that unacceptable.

Right, because we Jews love starting wars everywhere! Go away, antisemite,

I have nothing against Jews, I'm against war mongering, corruption, and the denying of basic freedoms and liberties to Palestinians and all other oppressed peoples.

Stop playing stupid. You didn't just write Israel lobby you wrote "Israel/JEWISH LOBBIES."

Implying Jews like starting wars across the world, which is a blatant antisemitic calling card.

Also, Israel does not "start wars" for the sake of dragging in countries to "fight them for Israel."

The Six Day War was started in response to a series of aggressive actions by multiple Arabic countries. 

Remember Sunrise the far left hates America and its allies , and wants to see them fail . Remember the far left supported the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan but called our invasion criminal  .

You know that the Afghani invasion created the Taliban. US literally Laden, trained him, developed him for years. And this guy blew up the Twin towers. So if someone is talking about that invasion being criminal it is justified, most invasions in general is criminal & illegal by international law although no1 seems to give a shi* to rules & the law !

This is so true!

[m11dsauce]

Andrew Young as the Secretary of State?? He's 85 years old! And if he appointed as Secretary of State in 2020, he would be 89. Andrew's health would be detrimental to himself, and probably won't last long.

[Senator LouisvilleThunder]

We just need someone to stay out of Middle Eastern wars, although the military-industrial complex and the Israel/Jewish lobbies will find that unacceptable.

Right, because we Jews love starting wars everywhere! Go away, antisemite,

I have nothing against Jews, I'm against war mongering, corruption, and the denying of basic freedoms and liberties to Palestinians and all other oppressed peoples.

Stop playing stupid. You didn't just write Israel lobby you wrote "Israel/JEWISH LOBBIES."

Implying Jews like starting wars across the world, which is a blatant antisemitic calling card.

Also, Israel does not "start wars" for the sake of dragging in countries to "fight them for Israel."

The Six Day War was started in response to a series of aggressive actions by multiple Arabic countries. 

Please explain AIPAC's war mongering against Iran😈
http://www.aipac.org/learn/legislative-agenda/agenda-display?agendaid={109F35BE-5BAA-4B28-A16F-CD0C01E50BE0}
http://www.aipac.org/learn/legislative-agenda/agenda-display?agendaid={407715AF-6DB4-4268-B6F8-36D3C6F241AA}

[Sunmerican Dream.]

We just need someone to stay out of Middle Eastern wars, although the military-industrial complex and the Israel/Jewish lobbies will find that unacceptable.

Right, because we Jews love starting wars everywhere! Go away, antisemite,

I have nothing against Jews, I'm against war mongering, corruption, and the denying of basic freedoms and liberties to Palestinians and all other oppressed peoples.

Stop playing stupid. You didn't just write Israel lobby you wrote "Israel/JEWISH LOBBIES."

Implying Jews like starting wars across the world, which is a blatant antisemitic calling card.

Also, Israel does not "start wars" for the sake of dragging in countries to "fight them for Israel."

The Six Day War was started in response to a series of aggressive actions by multiple Arabic countries. 

Please explain AIPAC's war mongering against Iran😈
http://www.aipac.org/learn/legislative-agenda/agenda-display?agendaid={109F35BE-5BAA-4B28-A16F-CD0C01E50BE0}
http://www.aipac.org/learn/legislative-agenda/agenda-display?agendaid={407715AF-6DB4-4268-B6F8-36D3C6F241AA}

Oh, yea, Israel is the one war-mongering? Not Iran? Not Iran who is calling for Israel's destruction and for war against the United States? Not Iran who is propping up Assad and Hezbollah? Not Iran who has, in the past, propped up Hamas?

Not Iran who wants to obtain nuclear weapons so they can secure economic, military and political dominance over the middle east?

Yea, poor Iran. Israel is being soooo mean to a sponsor of terrorism!

Also, still not addressing your use of the term "Jewish lobby" I see. 

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

I mean, virtually no one's addressing that the one troll just said anti-zionists wear "anti-semite" as a badge of honor.

We get it. You want us spread out into the diaspora again so you can finish the job. Not happening.

[Sunmerican Dream.]

I also like how the usual suspects are assuming I call all critics of Israel antisemites.

LouisvilleThunder is one of a handful of posters I've called an antisemite (TNF, Snowstalker, Shadows are the only ones I can think of on bad atlas)

[Senator LouisvilleThunder]

We just need someone to stay out of Middle Eastern wars, although the military-industrial complex and the Israel/Jewish lobbies will find that unacceptable.

Right, because we Jews love starting wars everywhere! Go away, antisemite,

I have nothing against Jews, I'm against war mongering, corruption, and the denying of basic freedoms and liberties to Palestinians and all other oppressed peoples.

Stop playing stupid. You didn't just write Israel lobby you wrote "Israel/JEWISH LOBBIES."

Implying Jews like starting wars across the world, which is a blatant antisemitic calling card.

Also, Israel does not "start wars" for the sake of dragging in countries to "fight them for Israel."

The Six Day War was started in response to a series of aggressive actions by multiple Arabic countries. 

Please explain AIPAC's war mongering against Iran
http://www.aipac.org/learn/legislative-agenda/agenda-display?agendaid={109F35BE-5BAA-4B28-A16F-CD0C01E50BE0}
http://www.aipac.org/learn/legislative-agenda/agenda-display?agendaid={407715AF-6DB4-4268-B6F8-36D3C6F241AA}

Oh, yea, Israel is the one war-mongering? Not Iran? Not Iran who is calling for Israel's destruction and for war against the United States? Not Iran who is propping up Assad and Hezbollah? Not Iran who has, in the past, propped up Hamas?

Not Iran who wants to obtain nuclear weapons so they can secure economic, military and political dominance over the middle east?

Yea, poor Iran. Israel is being soooo mean to a sponsor of terrorism!

Also, still not addressing your use of the term "Jewish lobby" I see. 

AIPAC claims that it wants the US to support their Jewish state because of Biblical reasons, so it is a Jewish lobby. Not all Jews support AIPAC, just as not all Muslims support terror groups. When Israel was founded, they forced the native Palestinian people to leave their own lands and were not compensated for it, thus attempting to destroy their culture. This is continuing with the continued construction of Jewish-only settlements in the West Bank. Iran can talk tough just like our President who wants to go back into Iraq and take the oil. It is empty rhetoric, and they will never walk their talk. They know that Israel has nukes and the unconditional support of U.S. government politicians who are on the AIPAC payroll, and they will never be suicidal enough to directly attack Israel. If Assad, Hezbollah, and Hamas are "terrorists" then why does the Israeli government kill ten Palestinians for every one one of their own. Iran is just acting in its own national security interests, just like the U.S. when it gives billions of dollars a year to Israel to expand their arsenal to use against Arabs who just happen to step out of line with the regime. I'm sure that if Jews are under Palestinian rule, they would also resort to terrorism, which was virtually nonexistent before the Jews took over. Iran want to have nuclear weapons because they don't want to submit to the whims of an American-Israeli hegemony to control all of their relations with the rest of the world. Currently, there is a moral equivalency between all stakeholders in the Middle East mess, however, don't you dare resort to calling me "anti-American" because I have this foreign policy view. I am against all wars, and I have a live and let live attitude, and I would love to see peace in all countries around the world. I don't think America should go around the world killing civilians half way around the world to impose its own worldview in order to make it easier for multi-national corporations to make even larger profits in the false name of "national security interests." If the people of a country are content with being ruled under the mullahs, the Kims, or the commies, then leave them be. They will rise up against their governments in they truly desire regime change and do as America did in 1776. We should focus on improving lives for Americans in America through more social spending rather than military spending, as well by protecting individual liberties as stated in the Constitution and Bill of Rights in order to make America a truly great place. If we can have the highest Amount of freedom combined with the highest standard of living, we can peacefully lead the world to following our example of a beacon of hope for all oppressed peoples in the world. This shouldn't be considered the "Democrat" view; this should be the American view. I know that you seem firmly entrenched in your worldview as I am in mine, but I would want to continue in a civilized discourse in order to find solutions to problems, since that is the very point of politics.
P.S. I'm not an anti-semite and I recognize the need for a Jewish state, but I believe the way that its establishment was carried out was immoral and cruel as well as the policies of its government for many decades. I'm sorry for insulting you, but you insulted me. Let's just respect each other. This is Atlas after all.

[Kingpoleon]

We need someone with a clearly defined foreign policy. James Stavridis, Ron Wyden, and Samantha Powers are my favorite Democrats on foreign policy, as I think Joe Biden and Susan Rice are too tied to Obama on it.

[GoTfan]

I mean, virtually no one's addressing that the one troll just said anti-zionists wear "anti-semite" as a badge of honor.

We get it. You want us spread out into the diaspora again so you can finish the job. Not happening.

Pulling the Holocaust card doesn't get you anywhere.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

I mean, virtually no one's addressing that the one troll just said anti-zionists wear "anti-semite" as a badge of honor.

We get it. You want us spread out into the diaspora again so you can finish the job. Not happening.

Pulling the Holocaust card doesn't get you anywhere.

We're not looking to "get anywhere" with you bloodthirsty maniacs who can't go ten years without trying to wipe us out somehow.

We've given up on that. Now it's about not giving you the option.

[Sunmerican Dream.]

We just need someone to stay out of Middle Eastern wars, although the military-industrial complex and the Israel/Jewish lobbies will find that unacceptable.

Right, because we Jews love starting wars everywhere! Go away, antisemite,

I have nothing against Jews, I'm against war mongering, corruption, and the denying of basic freedoms and liberties to Palestinians and all other oppressed peoples.

Stop playing stupid. You didn't just write Israel lobby you wrote "Israel/JEWISH LOBBIES."

Implying Jews like starting wars across the world, which is a blatant antisemitic calling card.

Also, Israel does not "start wars" for the sake of dragging in countries to "fight them for Israel."

The Six Day War was started in response to a series of aggressive actions by multiple Arabic countries. 

Please explain AIPAC's war mongering against Iran
http://www.aipac.org/learn/legislative-agenda/agenda-display?agendaid={109F35BE-5BAA-4B28-A16F-CD0C01E50BE0}
http://www.aipac.org/learn/legislative-agenda/agenda-display?agendaid={407715AF-6DB4-4268-B6F8-36D3C6F241AA}

Oh, yea, Israel is the one war-mongering? Not Iran? Not Iran who is calling for Israel's destruction and for war against the United States? Not Iran who is propping up Assad and Hezbollah? Not Iran who has, in the past, propped up Hamas?

Not Iran who wants to obtain nuclear weapons so they can secure economic, military and political dominance over the middle east?

Yea, poor Iran. Israel is being soooo mean to a sponsor of terrorism!

Also, still not addressing your use of the term "Jewish lobby" I see. 

AIPAC claims that it wants the US to support their Jewish state because of Biblical reasons, so it is a Jewish lobby. Not all Jews support AIPAC, just as not all Muslims support terror groups. When Israel was founded, they forced the native Palestinian people to leave their own lands and were not compensated for it, thus attempting to destroy their culture. This is continuing with the continued construction of Jewish-only settlements in the West Bank. Iran can talk tough just like our President who wants to go back into Iraq and take the oil. It is empty rhetoric, and they will never walk their talk. They know that Israel has nukes and the unconditional support of U.S. government politicians who are on the AIPAC payroll, and they will never be suicidal enough to directly attack Israel. If Assad, Hezbollah, and Hamas are "terrorists" then why does the Israeli government kill ten Palestinians for every one one of their own. Iran is just acting in its own national security interests, just like the U.S. when it gives billions of dollars a year to Israel to expand their arsenal to use against Arabs who just happen to step out of line with the regime. I'm sure that if Jews are under Palestinian rule, they would also resort to terrorism, which was virtually nonexistent before the Jews took over. Iran want to have nuclear weapons because they don't want to submit to the whims of an American-Israeli hegemony to control all of their relations with the rest of the world. Currently, there is a moral equivalency between all stakeholders in the Middle East mess, however, don't you dare resort to calling me "anti-American" because I have this foreign policy view. I am against all wars, and I have a live and let live attitude, and I would love to see peace in all countries around the world. I don't think America should go around the world killing civilians half way around the world to impose its own worldview in order to make it easier for multi-national corporations to make even larger profits in the false name of "national security interests." If the people of a country are content with being ruled under the mullahs, the Kims, or the commies, then leave them be. They will rise up against their governments in they truly desire regime change and do as America did in 1776. We should focus on improving lives for Americans in America through more social spending rather than military spending, as well by protecting individual liberties as stated in the Constitution and Bill of Rights in order to make America a truly great place. If we can have the highest Amount of freedom combined with the highest standard of living, we can peacefully lead the world to following our example of a beacon of hope for all oppressed peoples in the world. This shouldn't be considered the "Democrat" view; this should be the American view. I know that you seem firmly entrenched in your worldview as I am in mine, but I would want to continue in a civilized discourse in order to find solutions to problems, since that is the very point of politics.
P.S. I'm not an anti-semite and I recognize the need for a Jewish state, but I believe the way that its establishment was carried out was immoral and cruel as well as the policies of its government for many decades. I'm sorry for insulting you, but you insulted me. Let's just respect each other. This is Atlas after all.

Comparing Israel to islamic terror groups is not necessary and not an accurate comparison. Also, AIPAC has a very large African-American and Christian constituency. It is also developing a strong Hispanic/Latino and LGBT constituency as well. While it is predominantly Jewish, it is not an exclusively Jewish organization. You have to understand that this is why I thought you were being antisemitic, rather than being a critic of Israel.

I don't care if you criticize Israel or her policies, you have that right, as does everyone. No country is above criticism. What I am against is the unjust demonization of Israel, especially in comparison to other countries, which is what the BDS movement and other Palestinian nationalist movements try to convince others to do.

 They were Arabs living in a British territory, formerly a Turkish territory. There was never a country called Palestine, there is no ethnic difference between regular Arabs and Palestinians. However, I, like many Pro-Israel people, realize that these Arabs were screwed by the Arab world, the British and others and that a two state solution is one of many possible solutions that can peacefully resolve the conflict.

Also, no such thing as Jewish-only settlements. Israeli Arabs (Christian and Muslim), Druze, Bahai and other groups can move to Israeli settlements with ease.

And fair enough, mutual respect is important for a discourse on all issues.

[OSR stands with Israel]

We just need someone to stay out of Middle Eastern wars, although the military-industrial complex and the Israel/Jewish lobbies will find that unacceptable.

Right, because we Jews love starting wars everywhere! Go away, antisemite,

I have nothing against Jews, I'm against war mongering, corruption, and the denying of basic freedoms and liberties to Palestinians and all other oppressed peoples.

Stop playing stupid. You didn't just write Israel lobby you wrote "Israel/JEWISH LOBBIES."

Implying Jews like starting wars across the world, which is a blatant antisemitic calling card.

Also, Israel does not "start wars" for the sake of dragging in countries to "fight them for Israel."

The Six Day War was started in response to a series of aggressive actions by multiple Arabic countries. 

Remember Sunrise the far left hates America and its allies , and wants to see them fail . Remember the far left supported the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan but called our invasion criminal  .

You know that the Afghani invasion created the Taliban. US literally Laden, trained him, developed him for years. And this guy blew up the Twin towers. So if someone is talking about that invasion being criminal it is justified, most invasions in general is criminal & illegal by international law although no1 seems to give a shi* to rules & the law !

What about the Soviets Invading Afghanistan in the first place , what were we supposed to do let them take it lmao .That policy was tried from 1974-1979 and failed miserably. You know who is to blame for the taliban the Soviet Union cause if they NEVER invaded Afghanistan in the first place . But the left glossed over that fact every time . In fact Russia should have been forced to be part of the international coalition in 2001 to fix the mess they created .

[GoTfan]

I mean, virtually no one's addressing that the one troll just said anti-zionists wear "anti-semite" as a badge of honor.

We get it. You want us spread out into the diaspora again so you can finish the job. Not happening.

Pulling the Holocaust card doesn't get you anywhere.

We're not looking to "get anywhere" with you bloodthirsty maniacs who can't go ten years without trying to wipe us out somehow.

We've given up on that. Now it's about not giving you the option.

Comparing me to terrorists doesn't get you anywhere either. Bombing civilians in Gaza and taking over homes inside the Palestinian Territory is however, not in self-defence.

I am making reasonable criticisms and you are blowing them out of proportion by saying I want Israe's desteuction. That's just childish, not to mention it's Israel's go-to rhetoric whenever someone criticises them in the slightest. Grow up and try a different tack.

[BudgieForce]

The OP says nothing about Israel...

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

I mean, virtually no one's addressing that the one troll just said anti-zionists wear "anti-semite" as a badge of honor.

We get it. You want us spread out into the diaspora again so you can finish the job. Not happening.

Pulling the Holocaust card doesn't get you anywhere.

We're not looking to "get anywhere" with you bloodthirsty maniacs who can't go ten years without trying to wipe us out somehow.

We've given up on that. Now it's about not giving you the option.

Comparing me to terrorists doesn't get you anywhere either. Bombing civilians in Gaza and taking over homes inside the Palestinian Territory is however, not in self-defence.

I am making reasonable criticisms and you are blowing them out of proportion by saying I want Israe's desteuction. That's just childish, not to mention it's Israel's go-to rhetoric whenever someone criticises them in the slightest. Grow up and try a different tack.

Okay, so first up, you didn't make any "reasonable criticisms". I was addressing someone who openly said he wears being an anti-semite as a badge of honor when you jumped in. I don't know your opinion on the matter, I just know you feel the need to stan for an open anti-semite and call mentioning the context of his post "playing the holocaust card". I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you just didn't see the original post I was referencing, though.

Second, we have been trying a different tack for seventy years now. It's called coexistence through strength. Working just fine, although it makes a lot of people irrationally angry. I wonder why.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

The OP says nothing about Israel...

That happens a lot on Atlas. We've got a few obsessed haters who just can't help but derail any thread with "But when will the democrats finally take on the only evil country in the world??".

[GoTfan]

I mean, virtually no one's addressing that the one troll just said anti-zionists wear "anti-semite" as a badge of honor.

We get it. You want us spread out into the diaspora again so you can finish the job. Not happening.

Pulling the Holocaust card doesn't get you anywhere.

We're not looking to "get anywhere" with you bloodthirsty maniacs who can't go ten years without trying to wipe us out somehow.

We've given up on that. Now it's about not giving you the option.

Comparing me to terrorists doesn't get you anywhere either. Bombing civilians in Gaza and taking over homes inside the Palestinian Territory is however, not in self-defence.

I am making reasonable criticisms and you are blowing them out of proportion by saying I want Israe's desteuction. That's just childish, not to mention it's Israel's go-to rhetoric whenever someone criticises them in the slightest. Grow up and try a different tack.

Okay, so first up, you didn't make any "reasonable criticisms". I was addressing someone who openly said he wears being an anti-semite as a badge of honor when you jumped in. I don't know your opinion on the matter, I just know you feel the need to stan for an open anti-semite and call mentioning the context of his post "playing the holocaust card". I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you just didn't see the original post I was referencing, though.

Second, we have been trying a different tack for seventy years now. It's called coexistence through strength. Working just fine, although it makes a lot of people irrationally angry. I wonder why.

"Coexistence through strngth?" Meaning you take Palestinians' homes whenever you want? Bomb Palestinian hospitals on a whim? Kill Palestinian civilians then say "whoops, sorry"?

That's not coexistence. Those are war crimes. Similar to what European explorers did to Native Americans. Or hell, settlers here in Australia did to Aboriginals.

And for the record, I do beleive the word anti-semite is thrown around so kuch that it has nearly lost its meaning. Sort of like SJW. Anti-semite is the first defence Israelis go to whenever someone criticises them. Then there's the obligatory mention of the Holocaust because that's a "get out of jail free" card, it seems.

However let me take this opportunity to say that anyone who says being an anti-semite is a badge of honour is a lunatic. Just stop throwing it around at anyone who criticises Israel even slightly, and maybe people will start listening.

[Schumer can go f*** himself!]

We just need someone to stay out of Middle Eastern wars, although the military-industrial complex and the Israel/Jewish lobbies will find that unacceptable.

Right, because we Jews love starting wars everywhere! Go away, antisemite,

I have nothing against Jews, I'm against war mongering, corruption, and the denying of basic freedoms and liberties to Palestinians and all other oppressed peoples.

Stop playing stupid. You didn't just write Israel lobby you wrote "Israel/JEWISH LOBBIES."

Implying Jews like starting wars across the world, which is a blatant antisemitic calling card.

Also, Israel does not "start wars" for the sake of dragging in countries to "fight them for Israel."

The Six Day War was started in response to a series of aggressive actions by multiple Arabic countries.  

Please explain AIPAC's war mongering against Iran
http://www.aipac.org/learn/legislative-agenda/agenda-display?agendaid={109F35BE-5BAA-4B28-A16F-CD0C01E50BE0}
http://www.aipac.org/learn/legislative-agenda/agenda-display?agendaid={407715AF-6DB4-4268-B6F8-36D3C6F241AA}

Oh, yea, Israel is the one war-mongering? Not Iran? Not Iran who is calling for Israel's destruction and for war against the United States? Not Iran who is propping up Assad and Hezbollah? Not Iran who has, in the past, propped up Hamas?

Not Iran who wants to obtain nuclear weapons so they can secure economic, military and political dominance over the middle east?

Yea, poor Iran. Israel is being soooo mean to a sponsor of terrorism!

Also, still not addressing your use of the term "Jewish lobby" I see.  

AIPAC claims that it wants the US to support their Jewish state because of Biblical reasons, so it is a Jewish lobby. Not all Jews support AIPAC, just as not all Muslims support terror groups. When Israel was founded, they forced the native Palestinian people to leave their own lands and were not compensated for it, thus attempting to destroy their culture. This is continuing with the continued construction of Jewish-only settlements in the West Bank. Iran can talk tough just like our President who wants to go back into Iraq and take the oil. It is empty rhetoric, and they will never walk their talk. They know that Israel has nukes and the unconditional support of U.S. government politicians who are on the AIPAC payroll, and they will never be suicidal enough to directly attack Israel. If Assad, Hezbollah, and Hamas are "terrorists" then why does the Israeli government kill ten Palestinians for every one one of their own. Iran is just acting in its own national security interests, just like the U.S. when it gives billions of dollars a year to Israel to expand their arsenal to use against Arabs who just happen to step out of line with the regime. I'm sure that if Jews are under Palestinian rule, they would also resort to terrorism, which was virtually nonexistent before the Jews took over. Iran want to have nuclear weapons because they don't want to submit to the whims of an American-Israeli hegemony to control all of their relations with the rest of the world. Currently, there is a moral equivalency between all stakeholders in the Middle East mess, however, don't you dare resort to calling me "anti-American" because I have this foreign policy view. I am against all wars, and I have a live and let live attitude, and I would love to see peace in all countries around the world. I don't think America should go around the world killing civilians half way around the world to impose its own worldview in order to make it easier for multi-national corporations to make even larger profits in the false name of "national security interests." If the people of a country are content with being ruled under the mullahs, the Kims, or the commies, then leave them be. They will rise up against their governments in they truly desire regime change and do as America did in 1776. We should focus on improving lives for Americans in America through more social spending rather than military spending, as well by protecting individual liberties as stated in the Constitution and Bill of Rights in order to make America a truly great place. If we can have the highest Amount of freedom combined with the highest standard of living, we can peacefully lead the world to following our example of a beacon of hope for all oppressed peoples in the world. This shouldn't be considered the "Democrat" view; this should be the American view. I know that you seem firmly entrenched in your worldview as I am in mine, but I would want to continue in a civilized discourse in order to find solutions to problems, since that is the very point of politics.
P.S. I'm not an anti-semite and I recognize the need for a Jewish state, but I believe the way that its establishment was carried out was immoral and cruel as well as the policies of its government for many decades. I'm sorry for insulting you, but you insulted me. Let's just respect each other. This is Atlas after all.

While there are many, many things wrong with your post, I want to take a minute to point out that unlike the Palestinian terrorist groups, Israel doesn't deliberately try to murder civilians, you anti-Semitic diplodocus!

[Shadows]

We just need someone to stay out of Middle Eastern wars, although the military-industrial complex and the Israel/Jewish lobbies will find that unacceptable.

Right, because we Jews love starting wars everywhere! Go away, antisemite,

I have nothing against Jews, I'm against war mongering, corruption, and the denying of basic freedoms and liberties to Palestinians and all other oppressed peoples.

Stop playing stupid. You didn't just write Israel lobby you wrote "Israel/JEWISH LOBBIES."

Implying Jews like starting wars across the world, which is a blatant antisemitic calling card.

Also, Israel does not "start wars" for the sake of dragging in countries to "fight them for Israel."

The Six Day War was started in response to a series of aggressive actions by multiple Arabic countries. 

Please explain AIPAC's war mongering against Iran
http://www.aipac.org/learn/legislative-agenda/agenda-display?agendaid={109F35BE-5BAA-4B28-A16F-CD0C01E50BE0}
http://www.aipac.org/learn/legislative-agenda/agenda-display?agendaid={407715AF-6DB4-4268-B6F8-36D3C6F241AA}

Oh, yea, Israel is the one war-mongering? Not Iran? Not Iran who is calling for Israel's destruction and for war against the United States? Not Iran who is propping up Assad and Hezbollah? Not Iran who has, in the past, propped up Hamas?

Not Iran who wants to obtain nuclear weapons so they can secure economic, military and political dominance over the middle east?

Yea, poor Iran. Israel is being soooo mean to a sponsor of terrorism!

Also, still not addressing your use of the term "Jewish lobby" I see. 

AIPAC claims that it wants the US to support their Jewish state because of Biblical reasons, so it is a Jewish lobby. Not all Jews support AIPAC, just as not all Muslims support terror groups. When Israel was founded, they forced the native Palestinian people to leave their own lands and were not compensated for it, thus attempting to destroy their culture. This is continuing with the continued construction of Jewish-only settlements in the West Bank. Iran can talk tough just like our President who wants to go back into Iraq and take the oil. It is empty rhetoric, and they will never walk their talk. They know that Israel has nukes and the unconditional support of U.S. government politicians who are on the AIPAC payroll, and they will never be suicidal enough to directly attack Israel. If Assad, Hezbollah, and Hamas are "terrorists" then why does the Israeli government kill ten Palestinians for every one one of their own. Iran is just acting in its own national security interests, just like the U.S. when it gives billions of dollars a year to Israel to expand their arsenal to use against Arabs who just happen to step out of line with the regime. I'm sure that if Jews are under Palestinian rule, they would also resort to terrorism, which was virtually nonexistent before the Jews took over. Iran want to have nuclear weapons because they don't want to submit to the whims of an American-Israeli hegemony to control all of their relations with the rest of the world. Currently, there is a moral equivalency between all stakeholders in the Middle East mess, however, don't you dare resort to calling me "anti-American" because I have this foreign policy view. I am against all wars, and I have a live and let live attitude, and I would love to see peace in all countries around the world. I don't think America should go around the world killing civilians half way around the world to impose its own worldview in order to make it easier for multi-national corporations to make even larger profits in the false name of "national security interests." If the people of a country are content with being ruled under the mullahs, the Kims, or the commies, then leave them be. They will rise up against their governments in they truly desire regime change and do as America did in 1776. We should focus on improving lives for Americans in America through more social spending rather than military spending, as well by protecting individual liberties as stated in the Constitution and Bill of Rights in order to make America a truly great place. If we can have the highest Amount of freedom combined with the highest standard of living, we can peacefully lead the world to following our example of a beacon of hope for all oppressed peoples in the world. This shouldn't be considered the "Democrat" view; this should be the American view. I know that you seem firmly entrenched in your worldview as I am in mine, but I would want to continue in a civilized discourse in order to find solutions to problems, since that is the very point of politics.
P.S. I'm not an anti-semite and I recognize the need for a Jewish state, but I believe the way that its establishment was carried out was immoral and cruel as well as the policies of its government for many decades. I'm sorry for insulting you, but you insulted me. Let's just respect each other. This is Atlas after all.

The guy is a troll & a Military Industrial Complex support, hard right, extreme ideologue. If you speak truth to him, you become an anti-semite. You can't have a national discussion with people like him or with radical Saudi clerics.

They are religious nutcases & have an extreme ideology.

[Shadows]

We just need someone to stay out of Middle Eastern wars, although the military-industrial complex and the Israel/Jewish lobbies will find that unacceptable.

Right, because we Jews love starting wars everywhere! Go away, antisemite,

I have nothing against Jews, I'm against war mongering, corruption, and the denying of basic freedoms and liberties to Palestinians and all other oppressed peoples.

Stop playing stupid. You didn't just write Israel lobby you wrote "Israel/JEWISH LOBBIES."

Implying Jews like starting wars across the world, which is a blatant antisemitic calling card.

Also, Israel does not "start wars" for the sake of dragging in countries to "fight them for Israel."

The Six Day War was started in response to a series of aggressive actions by multiple Arabic countries.  

Please explain AIPAC's war mongering against Iran
http://www.aipac.org/learn/legislative-agenda/agenda-display?agendaid={109F35BE-5BAA-4B28-A16F-CD0C01E50BE0}
http://www.aipac.org/learn/legislative-agenda/agenda-display?agendaid={407715AF-6DB4-4268-B6F8-36D3C6F241AA}

Oh, yea, Israel is the one war-mongering? Not Iran? Not Iran who is calling for Israel's destruction and for war against the United States? Not Iran who is propping up Assad and Hezbollah? Not Iran who has, in the past, propped up Hamas?

Not Iran who wants to obtain nuclear weapons so they can secure economic, military and political dominance over the middle east?

Yea, poor Iran. Israel is being soooo mean to a sponsor of terrorism!

Also, still not addressing your use of the term "Jewish lobby" I see.  

AIPAC claims that it wants the US to support their Jewish state because of Biblical reasons, so it is a Jewish lobby. Not all Jews support AIPAC, just as not all Muslims support terror groups. When Israel was founded, they forced the native Palestinian people to leave their own lands and were not compensated for it, thus attempting to destroy their culture. This is continuing with the continued construction of Jewish-only settlements in the West Bank. Iran can talk tough just like our President who wants to go back into Iraq and take the oil. It is empty rhetoric, and they will never walk their talk. They know that Israel has nukes and the unconditional support of U.S. government politicians who are on the AIPAC payroll, and they will never be suicidal enough to directly attack Israel. If Assad, Hezbollah, and Hamas are "terrorists" then why does the Israeli government kill ten Palestinians for every one one of their own. Iran is just acting in its own national security interests, just like the U.S. when it gives billions of dollars a year to Israel to expand their arsenal to use against Arabs who just happen to step out of line with the regime. I'm sure that if Jews are under Palestinian rule, they would also resort to terrorism, which was virtually nonexistent before the Jews took over. Iran want to have nuclear weapons because they don't want to submit to the whims of an American-Israeli hegemony to control all of their relations with the rest of the world. Currently, there is a moral equivalency between all stakeholders in the Middle East mess, however, don't you dare resort to calling me "anti-American" because I have this foreign policy view. I am against all wars, and I have a live and let live attitude, and I would love to see peace in all countries around the world. I don't think America should go around the world killing civilians half way around the world to impose its own worldview in order to make it easier for multi-national corporations to make even larger profits in the false name of "national security interests." If the people of a country are content with being ruled under the mullahs, the Kims, or the commies, then leave them be. They will rise up against their governments in they truly desire regime change and do as America did in 1776. We should focus on improving lives for Americans in America through more social spending rather than military spending, as well by protecting individual liberties as stated in the Constitution and Bill of Rights in order to make America a truly great place. If we can have the highest Amount of freedom combined with the highest standard of living, we can peacefully lead the world to following our example of a beacon of hope for all oppressed peoples in the world. This shouldn't be considered the "Democrat" view; this should be the American view. I know that you seem firmly entrenched in your worldview as I am in mine, but I would want to continue in a civilized discourse in order to find solutions to problems, since that is the very point of politics.
P.S. I'm not an anti-semite and I recognize the need for a Jewish state, but I believe the way that its establishment was carried out was immoral and cruel as well as the policies of its government for many decades. I'm sorry for insulting you, but you insulted me. Let's just respect each other. This is Atlas after all.

While there are many, many things wrong with your post, I want to take a minute to point out that unlike the Palestinian terrorist groups, Israel doesn't deliberately try to murder civilians, you anti-Semitic diplodocus!

Yes, it does. There are 100's of cases of innocent Palestine civilians being killed for no good reason. Not only that, Israel disproportionately targets hospitals & schools in the Gaza region. This is not to condone Hamas or any of those groups but in the West Bank as well, the number of civilians frisked & murdered by the Israeli army is high.

There are multiple human rights organization including Amnesty International who have documented cases. There are multiple cases of complaints to International bodies including the UN about human rights violations.

[Shadows]

We just need someone to stay out of Middle Eastern wars, although the military-industrial complex and the Israel/Jewish lobbies will find that unacceptable.

Right, because we Jews love starting wars everywhere! Go away, antisemite,

I have nothing against Jews, I'm against war mongering, corruption, and the denying of basic freedoms and liberties to Palestinians and all other oppressed peoples.

Stop playing stupid. You didn't just write Israel lobby you wrote "Israel/JEWISH LOBBIES."

Implying Jews like starting wars across the world, which is a blatant antisemitic calling card.

Also, Israel does not "start wars" for the sake of dragging in countries to "fight them for Israel."

The Six Day War was started in response to a series of aggressive actions by multiple Arabic countries.  

Please explain AIPAC's war mongering against Iran
http://www.aipac.org/learn/legislative-agenda/agenda-display?agendaid={109F35BE-5BAA-4B28-A16F-CD0C01E50BE0}
http://www.aipac.org/learn/legislative-agenda/agenda-display?agendaid={407715AF-6DB4-4268-B6F8-36D3C6F241AA}

Oh, yea, Israel is the one war-mongering? Not Iran? Not Iran who is calling for Israel's destruction and for war against the United States? Not Iran who is propping up Assad and Hezbollah? Not Iran who has, in the past, propped up Hamas?

Not Iran who wants to obtain nuclear weapons so they can secure economic, military and political dominance over the middle east?

Yea, poor Iran. Israel is being soooo mean to a sponsor of terrorism!

Also, still not addressing your use of the term "Jewish lobby" I see.  

AIPAC claims that it wants the US to support their Jewish state because of Biblical reasons, so it is a Jewish lobby. Not all Jews support AIPAC, just as not all Muslims support terror groups. When Israel was founded, they forced the native Palestinian people to leave their own lands and were not compensated for it, thus attempting to destroy their culture. This is continuing with the continued construction of Jewish-only settlements in the West Bank. Iran can talk tough just like our President who wants to go back into Iraq and take the oil. It is empty rhetoric, and they will never walk their talk. They know that Israel has nukes and the unconditional support of U.S. government politicians who are on the AIPAC payroll, and they will never be suicidal enough to directly attack Israel. If Assad, Hezbollah, and Hamas are "terrorists" then why does the Israeli government kill ten Palestinians for every one one of their own. Iran is just acting in its own national security interests, just like the U.S. when it gives billions of dollars a year to Israel to expand their arsenal to use against Arabs who just happen to step out of line with the regime. I'm sure that if Jews are under Palestinian rule, they would also resort to terrorism, which was virtually nonexistent before the Jews took over. Iran want to have nuclear weapons because they don't want to submit to the whims of an American-Israeli hegemony to control all of their relations with the rest of the world. Currently, there is a moral equivalency between all stakeholders in the Middle East mess, however, don't you dare resort to calling me "anti-American" because I have this foreign policy view. I am against all wars, and I have a live and let live attitude, and I would love to see peace in all countries around the world. I don't think America should go around the world killing civilians half way around the world to impose its own worldview in order to make it easier for multi-national corporations to make even larger profits in the false name of "national security interests." If the people of a country are content with being ruled under the mullahs, the Kims, or the commies, then leave them be. They will rise up against their governments in they truly desire regime change and do as America did in 1776. We should focus on improving lives for Americans in America through more social spending rather than military spending, as well by protecting individual liberties as stated in the Constitution and Bill of Rights in order to make America a truly great place. If we can have the highest Amount of freedom combined with the highest standard of living, we can peacefully lead the world to following our example of a beacon of hope for all oppressed peoples in the world. This shouldn't be considered the "Democrat" view; this should be the American view. I know that you seem firmly entrenched in your worldview as I am in mine, but I would want to continue in a civilized discourse in order to find solutions to problems, since that is the very point of politics.
P.S. I'm not an anti-semite and I recognize the need for a Jewish state, but I believe the way that its establishment was carried out was immoral and cruel as well as the policies of its government for many decades. I'm sorry for insulting you, but you insulted me. Let's just respect each other. This is Atlas after all.

While there are many, many things wrong with your post, I want to take a minute to point out that unlike the Palestinian terrorist groups, Israel doesn't deliberately try to murder civilians, you anti-Semitic diplodocus!

Yes, it does. There are 100's of cases of innocent Palestine civilians being killed for no good reason. Not only that, Israel disproportionately targets hospitals & schools in the Gaza region. This is not to condone Hamas or any of those groups but in the West Bank as well, the number of civilians frisked & murdered by the Israeli army is high.

There are multiple human rights organization including Amnesty International who have documented cases. There are multiple cases of complaints to International bodies including the UN about human rights violations.

Netanyahu is a terrible guy. Atleast when Rabin was the Israeli leader, the administration was much better. He was much more nuanced & moderate.

[Kleine Scheiße]

"Secretary of State Mark Zuckerberg"

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

I have nothing against Jews, I'm against war mongering, corruption, and the denying of basic freedoms and liberties to Palestinians and all other oppressed peoples.

What war did Israel ever start , oh wait none cause all their wars have been a war of self defense .

1967 war.

I'm far from uncritical of Israel, but the Six-Day War is the classic example of a justified preemptive war.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

I have nothing against Jews, I'm against war mongering, corruption, and the denying of basic freedoms and liberties to Palestinians and all other oppressed peoples.

What war did Israel ever start , oh wait none cause all their wars have been a war of self defense .

1967 war.

I'm far from uncritical of Israel, but the Six-Day War is the classic example of a justified preemptive war.

One could even argue that the closure of the Suez Canal was a legit casus belli.